Breaking: Kevin Durant has requested a trade; UPDATE: KD wants Sean Marks/Nash fired - Shams

[GTR11]

We wouldn't be focused on White, it would be Brown + Smart + filler + picks.

If you really think Marcus Smart is what really holding this trade, I'd suggest sit back and watch what entire league been doing. Right now Brad started a gamble he believes he can execute to perfection.

Back in a days there was this guy named Danny Ainge. He and his friend and former teammate decided to make bold moves for various reasons. In order for Danny's plan to work, he had to persuade this new young guy to make a deal with him. Eventually he was successful and created a team that brought him to promise land.

Well Marks ain't that young guy named Sam Presti. He was schooled by top GM/Coach this league has ever seen. He also understands what aces he has in his hands and how not to slip up to sweet talks of Brad/Ainge be saying.

Better question is, where Pat Riley and Trajon Langdon fall in all this. There is no way this schrewd wolves be sitting on the side doing nothing.

[MagicBagley18]

I don't know why youre so confident everything being offered is reported. Most of the time its not.

If there is a leak there is a reason for it.

It has been reported that NO is interested. And Windhorst has said he thinks the Pelicans could offer Ingram if pressed.

Yes I do want Brown. But he alone is not enough value for KD. We need more pieces.

I’m only confident that the Celtics offered brown. Doesn’t mean Durant’s even traded or if he is to Boston. Woj, shams, Stein, windy, and mark murphy and Steve bulpett 2 plugged in Celtics guys basically confirmed Jaylen is on the table. Doesn’t matter when. the news is he’s offered at all.

Personally I think the nets leaked this to get other teams to up their offers as they should and that’s the reason there’s a leak- because the nets haven’t been offered what they want yet. Windy can hint all he wants that ingrams on the table but it hasn’t ever actually been reported that he has. So it’s all rumor. I’m going by what’s actually a real deal.

I know Boston is not some destination at all but I have real doubts that KD would wanna basically attach his championship window to Zion Williamson’s knee and eating habits. In Boston at least we know Durant has relationships with Tatum, ime and horford. And where KD wants to go will have SOME effect in this. It will matter in some regard for sure. If phx and Miami can’t get a deal done that matters.

I'm not doubting the Celtics offer.

I'm doubting that New Orleans wouldn't want to offer Ingram.

KD probably doesn't want to go to New Orleans I agree. But I don't think he wants to go to Boston either. He clearly wants Phoenix or Miami. Boston doesn't seem to me to be a market that would appeal to KD off the court.

This clearly isn't just about contending. If so, the current Nets team on paper could easily compete for a title.

Ultimately we will send KD where we get the best offer. Unless he at age 34 would seriously threaten to sit out the place hes traded. Unlikely.

KD's only way ti push back would be to rescind his trade request.

It’s about being open to playing places. I don’t think Boston is his top destination or even close to it but I do think playing for ime, with Tatum and with an organization that’s very stable would be. The pelicans even with Durant aren’t the hands down favorite. I think Celtics with Durant likely are.

And one point in time Boston appealed to him enough to at least consider playing there. The Celtics are much closer to winning now after a Durant deal than pelicans are and again not one real leaked story that Ingram is actually available. I just don’t think the pelicans would take that risk and I think the Celtics would bc they think can win it all.

It is about contending tho because if he leaves the nets he’s gonna wanna win.

[Papi_swav]

I'm not trading KD unless WE get what WE want. Boston screwed and owned enough teams with their trades , it's time to pay up now, can't always have it their way. They expect us to just take Brown , White and a 1st and they get to keep all of their depth? No way. We need Brown, Smart, Williams and all of their 1sts, not this year but next year and years after that for when KD breaks down, and throw in Pritchard while you're at it or White either or.. If not then keep KD, we have ALL the leverage here. KD is under contract so if Boston really wants him they're going to have to come better than that.

This would definitely be a nice haul for our future and our team right now especially with Kyrie and Simmons here. Great combo of offense and defense. We should still be a contender with this team IMO. KD is still great but he only has so much left in the tank and nothing left in the head so Boston can have him if they want IDC, he's going to collapse if they don't win it next year.

[GTR11]

Here's another side of the coin--

Does anyone... I mean ANYONE here believe that we're still a finals team, with or without the upcoming trade(s)?

So FFS, why not just let go of that rope, and get back to good team-building, right?

Why not skew the upcoming Durant & Kyrie trades moreso in terms of future capital, and less-so upon needing a 'star' player in return?

I mean.. we're not going anywhere soon, we'll be a decent team either way, so why not think about the future, yeah?

Marks earning his next paycheck right now. He has multiple paths he created and exploring every opportunity.

Me, i want to run it one more time and go from there. I'm more exited to see if they learned anything from this. We building our most important assets here in both Tsai and Marks. I want them to get their feet wet so we won't have to endure any of this next time around.

[Tha King]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

[dcstanley]

Nets fans should be keen on this team heading into the season as is. Give it a real shot and re-evaluate at the deadline..

Kyrie/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
O'Neale/Warren/Sumner
Durant/Edwards/Sharpe
Simmons/Claxton

That's a damn good rotation. A healthy Simmons, O'Neale, Warren, a healthy Harris and even Sumner is such a huge influx of talent. This team doesn't even compare to last year's.

[Crives]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

How often is there a championship team with terrible chemistry with stars that are looking to get out?

If brown is on table and commits to resigning, take that deal and run.

[MrDollarBills]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

How often is there a championship team with terrible chemistry with stars that are looking to get out?

If brown is on table and commits to resigning, take that deal and run.

Exactly this.

Woj reported today that KD still wants out. If Brown can be had, you make the move.

[MrDollarBills]

Nets fans should be keen on this team heading into the season as is. Give it a real shot and re-evaluate at the deadline..

Kyrie/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
O'Neale/Warren/Sumner
Durant/Edwards/Sharpe
Simmons/Claxton

That's a damn good rotation. A healthy Simmons, O'Neale, Warren, a healthy Harris and even Sumner is such a huge influx of talent. This team doesn't even compare to last year's.

Yeah on paper this team looks deadly. however KD not wanting to be here is pure cancer so its time to move.

[Crives]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

How often is there a championship team with terrible chemistry with stars that are looking to get out?

If brown is on table and commits to resigning, take that deal and run.

Exactly this.

Woj reported today that KD still wants out. If Brown can be had, you make the move.

Yes, but he needs to commit to becoming franchise corner stone and make commitment to resign new max deal in a couple years.

[Fallout_3]

Jaylen Brown + Robert Williams + Grant Williams exactly matches KD salary. Maybe that with 3 picks/swaps would do it.

[gigantes]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

How often is there a championship team with terrible chemistry with stars that are looking to get out?

If brown is on table and commits to resigning, take that deal and run.

Exactly this.

Woj reported today that KD still wants out. If Brown can be had, you make the move.

Or not.

Honestly, I would have taken "Boy's" (Wojnarowski's) deal right there, or any number of the deals up til now, but Marks is pretty obviously holding out until the post-Gobert trade market resets itself. At least... I hope, I think?

Obviously it sucks being us, having to sit through this shizzle day after day, week after week, month after &*^#$@#, never knowing quite *when* the cancerous boil will be lanced.

Still, tho, as for Sean Marks--
Fluff the noise, dude. Go out and get the killer deal, maintaining the plan.

We'll be okay, in the end.
And YES, I get it, painful as it is to say.

Still tho, LAWD A MERCY, if this hasn't been the worst, most stressful offseason I've ever experienced as a fan of... really, anything,
I'm not sure what has?

[GTR11]

Nets fans should be keen on this team heading into the season as is. Give it a real shot and re-evaluate at the deadline..

Kyrie/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
O'Neale/Warren/Sumner
Durant/Edwards/Sharpe
Simmons/Claxton

That's a damn good rotation. A healthy Simmons, O'Neale, Warren, a healthy Harris and even Sumner is such a huge influx of talent. This team doesn't even compare to last year's.

Yeah on paper this team looks deadly. however KD not wanting to be here is pure cancer so its time to move.

We not giving ourselves any favors without test driving this McLaren Benz. If the wheels will start coming off, than you pull a trigger on the best package available. Whether it's offseason or trade deadline.

Everyone knew KD was not coming back his last season in OKC, yet they took GSW to game 7. I don't believe for a minute he'll quit the way Harden did. He cares to much about his shaky legacy.

[MrDollarBills]

Nets fans should be keen on this team heading into the season as is. Give it a real shot and re-evaluate at the deadline..

Kyrie/Mills
Harris/Curry/Thomas
O'Neale/Warren/Sumner
Durant/Edwards/Sharpe
Simmons/Claxton

That's a damn good rotation. A healthy Simmons, O'Neale, Warren, a healthy Harris and even Sumner is such a huge influx of talent. This team doesn't even compare to last year's.

Yeah on paper this team looks deadly. however KD not wanting to be here is pure cancer so its time to move.

We not giving ourselves any favors without test driving this McLaren Benz. If the wheels will start coming off, than you pull a trigger on the best package available. Whether it's offseason or trade deadline.

Everyone knew KD was not coming back his last season in OKC, yet they took GSW to game 7. I don't believe for a minute he'll quit the way Harden did. He cares to much about his shaky legacy.

Yall trust KD way too much.

[Fallout_3]

If it was only about the star we get, would you prefer Jaylen Brown, Ingram or Scottie Barnes?

[Tha King]

I've been going back and forth the past few weeks in regards to all the trade talks and right now I am saying take a chance and run it back. KD, Kyrie, and Simmons have yet to even play a single game together, try first. KD has four years left on his deal there should be no rush. How often do teams put together rosters that are championship caliber? You don't throw that away without even giving it a chance for Brown and a pick.

Brown is a good player who has been an AS once so far. He's not a player you build around or a first option on a contender. His handle is limited, he's a non-existent playmaker and lowkey injury prone. And although the Celtics made it to the Finals this year, I still even question if he's actually a second option on a title team as the Celtics run to the finals included a dysfunctional Nets team without the third and fourth best players, a Bucks team without their second best player and an injured Heat team. They could have easily been a second round exit type. It's also important to mention that he will be an UFA in a couple years - two years before KD.

All that said, I know he's probably the best player the Nets could get which is why imo you try and run it back and see if things can get worked out with wins as the season progresses.

How often is there a championship team with terrible chemistry with stars that are looking to get out?

If brown is on table and commits to resigning, take that deal and run.

The only player looking to get out is KD and that's probably all because he doesn't think he can win with Kyrie/Simmons RIGHT NOW. Kyrie just wants his max.

KD was leaving the Thunder his last year and they were a game away from the finals. He was gone from the Warriors his last season and still decided to risk his career to win in the finals. All he wants to do is win, so that's what it comes down to and if you believe in Kyrie/Simmons. Given the importance of next season for Kyrie he shouldn't be much of a question mark imo

So yes, you take the chance and run it back to see what this extremely formidable roster is about. At least give it a month or two. Maybe Durant will look at things different if Simmons is out there playing like the DPOY caliber elite playmaker he was with the Sixers. If not and you get more of the same from Kyrie/Simmons then go right ahead and move on but at least try and leave no doubt.

[Educator]

Nothing has changed. It is quite simple.

The asking price is met or Durant is kept.

None of the offers have come close to the asking price and there is no reason for the team to reduce the asking price.

[3pt_chucker]

I think nothing will happen until it's really close to training camp and the Nets find out if KD will show up (he can sit out or go the imaginary injury route).

It's obvious by now is that the best team the Nets can have next season is the one that currently exist with KD. Until they know for sure KD won't be willing to run it back, it doesn't make sense to rush a trade.

If KD sits out, then I think the Nets would look at which team gave them the best offer over the summer and try to finalize a deal.

So everything right now is just canvassing the league and seeing which teams truly wants to negotiate and what can potentially be on the table. Celtics making this offer last weekend(July16th) show offers will continually come in. I'm sure another offer(s) is coming now that the Brown info was leaked.

[MrDollarBills]

If it was only about the star we get, would you prefer Jaylen Brown, Ingram or Scottie Barnes?

Ingram. He's a flat out stud.

[MGrand15]

It blows my mind that some people still trust Kyrie to stay healthy and committed to the team.

I've seen some people say 'it's a contract year - he HAS to stay committed' or they think he has something to prove. No. He doesn't think that way at all.

This guy was coming off a disaster year in Boston. He should've been desperate to repair his reputation and prove he's a winner. Year 1 with us - he was a problem towards the coaches and the front office. Then fought against medical advice for as long he could. Ended up injured.

Year 2 he had his buddy Kevin Durant and we were contenders. He should've been 100% motivated. He still left the team mid-season. Didn't stay in contact with the team. Then ended the year injured.

Year 3 he had Kevin Durant and James Harden. We were overwhelming favorites to win the chip. After last year, he should've been 1000% focused on a chip. What more motivation could you ask for? Nope. We had the anti-vax stuff that derailed our team. He made no effort to stay in touch with the team while he was away. Drove away James Harden.

Guys like Kyrie just won't get it together. Teams might keep the BS behind the scenes instead of leaking it. We've tried - and even still - the stuff that has come out is just ridiculous. There's absolutely no part of Kyrie that thinks he needs to EARN his next contract. He thinks he's a truly elite player that will get it regardless. He doesn't think he's made any mistakes - he just thinks he's misunderstood or above everyone else.