Off-Season Volume 7: Hello Darkness my only friend

[Timantha]

We'll go after his brother Marcus Morris. Clippers roster is too deep so someone is gonna get unhappy with lack of minutes

[wade44]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

[Flipsanity]

Surely we didn’t sign Dedmon to be a third center off the bench

We resigned him to be a trade chip at the trade deadline this upcoming season, lol.

[Hallstar]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

Why not? It's what the walking moving screen should be

[AirP.]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

Miami overpaid Dedmon so they will have some salary over the minimum to trade at the trade deadline.

Yurtseven is on the last year of his contract, if Miami doesn't play him it's possible he's shown enough for another team to throw a contract at him to work on developing him and then Miami either has to pay him or lose him. He has to play if he's not utilized in a trade.

[IceColdCubano]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

Miami overpaid Dedmon so they will have some salary over the minimum to trade at the trade deadline.

Yurtseven is on the last year of his contract, if Miami doesn't play him it's possible he's shown enough for another team to throw a contract at him to work on developing him and then Miami either has to pay him or lose him. He has to play if he's not utilized in a trade.

I wonder what route Miami will take with Yurt this year. Either A. Miami plays him plenty as the official back up center, this will be beneficial for the team, to Yurts growth, and also if he excels drives up his worth for a mid season acquisition he can be put in as a sweetner on a trade to improve the team. At a minimun if he isnt used as trade bait he will just be a more polished player Miami can count on. Or B. Miami continues to play him limited spot minutes break glass incase of injury way similar to last season. And this keeps his negotiation down, for an asking price once Miami has him signed long term they can ramp up the minutes and have a a good servicable big in our lineups on the cheap. If you dont think good teams play this game to be able to field teams while their paying top dollars for their stars your in denial. Especially in this case if Yurts growth is marginal and they keep him hidden by using the minutes low allows you to resign him to a multi year on the cheap, helps build you a succesful playoff team moving forward. It might be the difference that nets you 5-10 million per year in savings.

[twix2500]

Yurt is playing a lot or he will not be here the following year

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[AirP.]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

Miami overpaid Dedmon so they will have some salary over the minimum to trade at the trade deadline.

Yurtseven is on the last year of his contract, if Miami doesn't play him it's possible he's shown enough for another team to throw a contract at him to work on developing him and then Miami either has to pay him or lose him. He has to play if he's not utilized in a trade.

I wonder what route Miami will take with Yurt this year. Either A. Miami plays him plenty as the official back up center, this will be beneficial for the team, to Yurts growth, and also if he excels drives up his worth for a mid season acquisition he can be put in as a sweetner on a trade to improve the team. At a minimun if he isnt used as trade bait he will just be a more polished player Miami can count on. Or B. Miami continues to play him limited spot minutes break glass incase of injury way similar to last season. And this keeps his negotiation down, for an asking price once Miami has him signed long term they can ramp up the minutes and have a a good servicable big in our lineups on the cheap. If you dont think good teams play this game to be able to field teams while their paying top dollars for their stars your in denial. Especially in this case if Yurts growth is marginal and they keep him hidden by using the minutes low allows you to resign him to a multi year on the cheap, helps build you a succesful playoff team moving forward. It might be the difference that nets you 5-10 million per year in savings.

The only way thy can hold Yurtseven back as the 3rd backup without creating hard feelings is by Dedmon being nearly as effective as Yurtseven and the team citing experience while chasing a championship.

What I wrote and deleted earlier was a scenario(I delete a lot and sometimes forget what I did post) that Miami could go with Dedmon as the backup citing Yurtseven could continue to work hard to win the backup role and when they're starting to look around for a Dedmon trade to add a rotation piece(say PF) they could say Yurtseven has proved his worth and moved to the backup position allowing the team to move Dedmon even if that was the plan all along.

I'm not 100% sure they paid Dedmon to move him, I'm close to that sure but they could have also overpaid him to get him to come back. He sees the writing on the wall with his age, Yurtseven's age and Yurtseven being on the last year of his contract and he can expect being moved this year based on the team missing a PF.

[contract]

So what will come of Yurt? Are we going to hold him in limbo again this season or is he just a trade chip and sure goner?

Surely we didn’t sign Deadmond to be a third center off the bench

Miami overpaid Dedmon so they will have some salary over the minimum to trade at the trade deadline.

Yurtseven is on the last year of his contract, if Miami doesn't play him it's possible he's shown enough for another team to throw a contract at him to work on developing him and then Miami either has to pay him or lose him. He has to play if he's not utilized in a trade.

I wonder what route Miami will take with Yurt this year. Either A. Miami plays him plenty as the official back up center, this will be beneficial for the team, to Yurts growth, and also if he excels drives up his worth for a mid season acquisition he can be put in as a sweetner on a trade to improve the team. At a minimun if he isnt used as trade bait he will just be a more polished player Miami can count on. Or B. Miami continues to play him limited spot minutes break glass incase of injury way similar to last season. And this keeps his negotiation down, for an asking price once Miami has him signed long term they can ramp up the minutes and have a a good servicable big in our lineups on the cheap. If you dont think good teams play this game to be able to field teams while their paying top dollars for their stars your in denial. Especially in this case if Yurts growth is marginal and they keep him hidden by using the minutes low allows you to resign him to a multi year on the cheap, helps build you a succesful playoff team moving forward. It might be the difference that nets you 5-10 million per year in savings.

There's also the possibility that Yurt is just some guy we picked up only to be replaced by some other guy we just pick up this year or next year. I don't think we're building our plans around Yurt. He's going to come in and compete for a role and compete for minutes just like every other player down the bench. If he doesn't impress he may get cut.

[Timantha]

Starting the season without a quality 4 might be a blessing in disguise. Spo will find a way to get wins in the reg season and players like Duncan, Yurt, Dipo and Caleb will get more minutes to increase their trade value. We just have to hope Herro averages 23-25 ppg as a starter and we'll have a competitive package for KD midseason

[twix2500]

Miami overpaid Dedmon so they will have some salary over the minimum to trade at the trade deadline.

Yurtseven is on the last year of his contract, if Miami doesn't play him it's possible he's shown enough for another team to throw a contract at him to work on developing him and then Miami either has to pay him or lose him. He has to play if he's not utilized in a trade.

I wonder what route Miami will take with Yurt this year. Either A. Miami plays him plenty as the official back up center, this will be beneficial for the team, to Yurts growth, and also if he excels drives up his worth for a mid season acquisition he can be put in as a sweetner on a trade to improve the team. At a minimun if he isnt used as trade bait he will just be a more polished player Miami can count on. Or B. Miami continues to play him limited spot minutes break glass incase of injury way similar to last season. And this keeps his negotiation down, for an asking price once Miami has him signed long term they can ramp up the minutes and have a a good servicable big in our lineups on the cheap. If you dont think good teams play this game to be able to field teams while their paying top dollars for their stars your in denial. Especially in this case if Yurts growth is marginal and they keep him hidden by using the minutes low allows you to resign him to a multi year on the cheap, helps build you a succesful playoff team moving forward. It might be the difference that nets you 5-10 million per year in savings.

The only way thy can hold Yurtseven back as the 3rd backup without creating hard feelings is by Dedmon being nearly as effective as Yurtseven and the team citing experience while chasing a championship.

What I wrote and deleted earlier was a scenario(I delete a lot and sometimes forget what I did post) that Miami could go with Dedmon as the backup citing Yurtseven could continue to work hard to win the backup role and when they're starting to look around for a Dedmon trade to add a rotation piece(say PF) they could say Yurtseven has proved his worth and moved to the backup position allowing the team to move Dedmon even if that was the plan all along.

I'm not 100% sure they paid Dedmon to move him, I'm close to that sure but they could have also overpaid him to get him to come back. He sees the writing on the wall with his age, Yurtseven's age and Yurtseven being on the last year of his contract and he can expect being moved this year based on the team missing a PF.

The league knows what Dedmon is. GMs are not gonna be scouting him. He doesn't need to be showcased except for being healthy.

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[AirP.]

I wonder what route Miami will take with Yurt this year. Either A. Miami plays him plenty as the official back up center, this will be beneficial for the team, to Yurts growth, and also if he excels drives up his worth for a mid season acquisition he can be put in as a sweetner on a trade to improve the team. At a minimun if he isnt used as trade bait he will just be a more polished player Miami can count on. Or B. Miami continues to play him limited spot minutes break glass incase of injury way similar to last season. And this keeps his negotiation down, for an asking price once Miami has him signed long term they can ramp up the minutes and have a a good servicable big in our lineups on the cheap. If you dont think good teams play this game to be able to field teams while their paying top dollars for their stars your in denial. Especially in this case if Yurts growth is marginal and they keep him hidden by using the minutes low allows you to resign him to a multi year on the cheap, helps build you a succesful playoff team moving forward. It might be the difference that nets you 5-10 million per year in savings.

The only way thy can hold Yurtseven back as the 3rd backup without creating hard feelings is by Dedmon being nearly as effective as Yurtseven and the team citing experience while chasing a championship.

What I wrote and deleted earlier was a scenario(I delete a lot and sometimes forget what I did post) that Miami could go with Dedmon as the backup citing Yurtseven could continue to work hard to win the backup role and when they're starting to look around for a Dedmon trade to add a rotation piece(say PF) they could say Yurtseven has proved his worth and moved to the backup position allowing the team to move Dedmon even if that was the plan all along.

I'm not 100% sure they paid Dedmon to move him, I'm close to that sure but they could have also overpaid him to get him to come back. He sees the writing on the wall with his age, Yurtseven's age and Yurtseven being on the last year of his contract and he can expect being moved this year based on the team missing a PF.

The league knows what Dedmon is. GMs are not gonna be scouting him. He doesn't need to be showcased except for being healthy.

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Scout Dedmon? Who said anyone was scouting Dedmon? Miami could go with Dedmon early on because he may understand where he's suppose to be on offense and defense while Yurtseven may not. Too many people just look at the player without the understanding that they need to play their role and understand how to read and react correctly inside of an offense or defense. Yurtseven seemed to miss his assignments a number of times last year and while that may work in the regular season, that'll get exploited in the playoffs.

Dedmon more then likely will be used as an expiring contract, this year or next. I highly doubt anyone is really looking to add Dedmon to their roster, let alone giving up some type of asset for him.

The reason I mentioned possibly paying him more to play is because he's still making almost 3 million a year from being stretched in Detroit so he still has nearly 8 million coming in over the next 3 years.

[AirP.]

Starting the season without a quality 4 might be a blessing in disguise. Spo will find a way to get wins in the reg season and players like Duncan, Yurt, Dipo and Caleb will get more minutes to increase their trade value. We just have to hope Herro averages 23-25 ppg as a starter and we'll have a competitive package for KD midseason

Where exactly are the FGA coming from while playing with the starters? Who's shooting 3-4 fga less a game to give Herro 20-21 shots to make 23-25 ppg? I think most everyone was fine with him taking more shots away from some of the bench guys, but the starters is a different story. Is Miami taking shots away from it's 2 max players who they'd like to see score more? Is it Lowry who people bitched about not taking enough shots or whoever plays PF since last year Tucker only took 6 FGA a game. In the SG position Robinson and Strus took 9&11 FGA a game. It's quite possible if Herro moves to the starting lineup he's not getting enough FGA to score where you want him to and in fact, he could score less as a starter. Now toss in Oladipo in the rotation(if he's not starting), he's going to try to get back to being a scorer himself. Its going to be a very interesting season if there isn't a consolidation trade happening.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Pretty sure Dedmon got paid just based off his sheer sex appeal

[Spo COY]

Pretty sure Dedmon got paid just based off his sheer sex appeal

If that's the case then we gotta trade Strus before he demands the max

[al bondiga]

Are there any players in disguise in this board or is it just boyfriend/girlfriend??

[twix2500]

The only way thy can hold Yurtseven back as the 3rd backup without creating hard feelings is by Dedmon being nearly as effective as Yurtseven and the team citing experience while chasing a championship.

What I wrote and deleted earlier was a scenario(I delete a lot and sometimes forget what I did post) that Miami could go with Dedmon as the backup citing Yurtseven could continue to work hard to win the backup role and when they're starting to look around for a Dedmon trade to add a rotation piece(say PF) they could say Yurtseven has proved his worth and moved to the backup position allowing the team to move Dedmon even if that was the plan all along.

I'm not 100% sure they paid Dedmon to move him, I'm close to that sure but they could have also overpaid him to get him to come back. He sees the writing on the wall with his age, Yurtseven's age and Yurtseven being on the last year of his contract and he can expect being moved this year based on the team missing a PF.

The league knows what Dedmon is. GMs are not gonna be scouting him. He doesn't need to be showcased except for being healthy.

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Scout Dedmon? Who said anyone was scouting Dedmon? Miami could go with Dedmon early on because he may understand where he's suppose to be on offense and defense while Yurtseven may not. Too many people just look at the player without the understanding that they need to play their role and understand how to read and react correctly inside of an offense or defense. Yurtseven seemed to miss his assignments a number of times last year and while that may work in the regular season, that'll get exploited in the playoffs.

Dedmon more then likely will be used as an expiring contract, this year or next. I highly doubt anyone is really looking to add Dedmon to their roster, let alone giving up some type of asset for him.

The reason I mentioned possibly paying him more to play is because he's still making almost 3 million a year from being stretched in Detroit so he still has nearly 8 million coming in over the next 3 years.

Teams can still use Dedmon. He still has good value as a player. Yurt spent four years in Georgetown, a whole year overseas and an entire year as a Heat player and got a lot of time on the court, and will get an entire training camp/preseason this year. He is in his contract year, he should be ready to contribute when the season starts. The best time for him to learn on court is at the beginning of the season. He has enough years of coaching to be able understand where to be in the court and fundamentals.

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[al bondiga]

yurt has good potential but I have a feeling that as soon as he gets a big contract he will slowly disappear, HOPE I'm wrong for his own sake, he is Young

plus, he doesn't fit in with spo strategy and spo rarely adapts too much... in conclusion... yurt is probably gone next season... who knows how

[al bondiga]

euro Style doesn't fit in with the players we have, JB is the main culprit, bam style doesn't help either... but spo and Riley are in a different wavelength then the guys from Europa

[SoFlaKingReal]

euro Style doesn't fit in with the players we have, JB is the main culprit, bam style doesn't help either... but spo and Riley are in a different wavelength then the guys from Europa

Goran Dragic?