Transfer Thread 2022/23

[LDNMagic90]

Werner back to Leipzig.

Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his scoring touch there again.

Definitely he will, Chelsea didn't really play to his strengths or any of their strikers strengths for that matter

I've been saying this all along.
Tuchel is a problem.

I've been questioning Chelsea all summer, like what are they trying to do? They desperately need a striker yet it seems like they aren't after one. I know City won the Prem without having a proper striker, but look at City's squad compared to Chelsea's how many Chelsea players are getting into that starting 11?

[HIF]

Werner back to Leipzig.

Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his scoring touch there again.

What an incredible flop in the PL.

[Baphomet]

Besides Drogba and Costa, striker is kind of a cursed position for Chelsea. It's like goalkeepers at Spurs, before Lloris joined.

They've apparently offered £70m for Fofana, though. Good player but that seems like a mad price, maybe HIF can offer more insight into that. It's a difficult one as he's Leicester's best defender, but that has to be hard to turn down.

[LDNMagic90]

City just signed Sergi Gomez - definitely one for the future I think he could be a real good player.

[HIF]

Besides Drogba and Costa, striker is kind of a cursed position for Chelsea. It's like goalkeepers at Spurs, before Lloris joined.

They've apparently offered £70m for Fofana, though. Good player but that seems like a mad price, maybe HIF can offer more insight into that. It's a difficult one as he's Leicester's best defender, but that has to be hard to turn down.

They'll have to pay more.

He's a great young player but he's still got a lot of learning to do. He'd be better off staying with us but with most young guys I'm sure he'll want to go to a big club sooner rather than later. I worry for him that it's too early and the pressure will stunt his progression. another year or two with us and one of the Spanish giants or PSG will buy him.

It's quite possible we'll sell - not ideal without getting in a good replacement - but if we do it'll be for a world record price.

[Foye]

Werner back to Leipzig.

Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his scoring touch there again.

What an incredible flop in the PL.

So was Lukaku last year.
At some point you've gotta question whether it is the strikers inability to score goals or the team just not doing a great job of setting the strikers up.

Most likely a combination of both.

[Foye]

Werner back to Leipzig.

Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his scoring touch there again.

Definitely he will, Chelsea didn't really play to his strengths or any of their strikers strengths for that matter

I've been saying this all along.
Tuchel is a problem.

There are exactly two coaches that have won the Champions League with Chelsea with billions of money invested.

Safe to say Tuchel isn't the problem.

[KG Leonard]

Winning CL with Chelsea is not that big with the billions, a few cup game wins. Specially if you can never win PL. Di Matteo won with Chelsea, he is a hardly Ancelloti, Pep, Klopp. Winning CL with Porto like Mourinho now that's like Leicester winning PL CL today.

Tuchel was good the first few months in Chelsea but he had the same problem in PSG. Let's not overrate him too much.

[Baphomet]

Winning CL with Chelsea is not that big with the billions, a few cup game wins. Specially if you can never win PL. Di Matteo won with Chelsea, he is a hardly Ancelloti, Pep, Klopp. Winning CL with Porto like Mourinho now that's like Leicester winning PL CL today.

Tuchel was good the first few months in Chelsea but he had the same problem in PSG. Let's not overrate him too much.

The main problem with the idea that spending billions wins CLs is that it doesn't, not really. At least relatively speaking. If it did, City and PSG would have multiple by now. Of course heavy spenders will rise to the top, but the culture at clubs is just as important.

Tuchel is a good coach, and if he winds up getting sacked, he definitely wouldn't be the first good coach to get sacked there. Chelsea has just been a circus for a while thanks to the Abramovich and Lukaku drama, his position has been really undermined by that.

[KG Leonard]

Winning CL with Chelsea is not that big with the billions, a few cup game wins. Specially if you can never win PL. Di Matteo won with Chelsea, he is a hardly Ancelloti, Pep, Klopp. Winning CL with Porto like Mourinho now that's like Leicester winning PL CL today.

Tuchel was good the first few months in Chelsea but he had the same problem in PSG. Let's not overrate him too much.

The main problem with the idea that spending billions wins CLs is that it doesn't, not really. At least relatively speaking. If it did, City and PSG would have multiple by now. Of course heavy spenders will rise to the top, but the culture at clubs is just as important.

Tuchel is a good coach, and if he winds up getting sacked, he definitely wouldn't be the first good coach to get sacked there. Chelsea has just been a circus for a while thanks to the Abramovich and Lukaku drama, his position has been really undermined by that.

Chelsea has won CL because they invested their money well, they hired good coaches like Tuchel, they didn't waste money on 7 expensive forwards like PSG. City is more of a Pep problem, luck. Tuchel shouldn't get fired for a bad season of course not but we shouldn't give him a benefit of doubt like Klopp, Pep has earned. His track record is not long, impressive.

Tuchel problem is that he doesn't have offensive game tactics wise, all wingers,attacker can't score in his system that is a huge problem when their defence becomes leakey,lose 1-4 at home to Brentford. He should be criticised.

[Baphomet]

Chelsea has won CL because they invested their money well, they hired good coaches like Tuchel, they didn't waste money on 7 expensive forwards like PSG. City is more of a Pep problem, luck. Tuchel shouldn't get fired for a bad season of course not but we shouldn't give him a benefit of doubt like Klopp, Pep has earned. His track record is not long, impressive.

Tuchel problem is that he doesn't have offensive game tactics wise, all wingers,attacker can't score in his system that is a huge problem when their defence becomes leakey,lose 1-4 at home to Brentford. He should be criticised.

I'm not saying that he should be above criticism, per se. Just that he has had to deal with some extenuating circumstances at the club that has derailed their momentum.

[HIF]

Personally I think we build all managers up to much and give them too much criticism. To a lesser extent I'd say the same for players. Fans and media forget that football is a team game, it's NOT about individuals but fans and media make it into that. Mourhino is a good example - he's a very good manager/coach and he's won in many places - obviously with the money used well to back him up, he has also had failures where the money hasn't been used so well. Klopp, Pep, Conté (probably Tuchel) are all very good at the jobs but probably no better than Potter, for example, and a number of managers/coaches who haven't even progressed further than the lower leagues.

Leicester didn't win the PL in 2016 because Ranieri was the best coach nor because Vardy was the best striker nor because Huth was the best CB. They won because they came together as a team and covered the others weaknesses. They were a true team.

[UcanUwill]

Werner back to Leipzig.

Wouldn't be surprised if he finds his scoring touch there again.

What an incredible flop in the PL.

So was Lukaku last year.
At some point you've gotta question whether it is the strikers inability to score goals or the team just not doing a great job of setting the strikers up.

Most likely a combination of both.

He wasted so many wide open chances over the season tho, he was fast, but his finishing was terrible.

[Shaazzam]

Personally I think we build all managers up to much and give them too much criticism. To a lesser extent I'd say the same for players. Fans and media forget that football is a team game, it's NOT about individuals but fans and media make it into that. Mourhino is a good example - he's a very good manager/coach and he's won in many places - obviously with the money used well to back him up, he has also had failures where the money hasn't been used so well. Klopp, Pep, Conté (probably Tuchel) are all very good at the jobs but probably no better than Potter, for example, and a number of managers/coaches who haven't even progressed further than the lower leagues.

Leicester didn't win the PL in 2016 because Ranieri was the best coach nor because Vardy was the best striker nor because Huth was the best CB. They won because they came together as a team and covered the others weaknesses. They were a true team.

It was all Kante. (Lol, I'm hoping he was still on the team.)

Jokes aside, totally agree. It's common for people to want to assign blame, and it's easier to single out one person or a very small group than to actually delve into what went wrong. And the inverse is true when it comes to success.

[HIF]

Personally I think we build all managers up to much and give them too much criticism. To a lesser extent I'd say the same for players. Fans and media forget that football is a team game, it's NOT about individuals but fans and media make it into that. Mourhino is a good example - he's a very good manager/coach and he's won in many places - obviously with the money used well to back him up, he has also had failures where the money hasn't been used so well. Klopp, Pep, Conté (probably Tuchel) are all very good at the jobs but probably no better than Potter, for example, and a number of managers/coaches who haven't even progressed further than the lower leagues.

Leicester didn't win the PL in 2016 because Ranieri was the best coach nor because Vardy was the best striker nor because Huth was the best CB. They won because they came together as a team and covered the others weaknesses. They were a true team.

It was all Kante. (Lol, I'm hoping he was still on the team.)

Jokes aside, totally agree. It's common for people to want to assign blame, and it's easier to single out one person or a very small group than to actually delve into what went wrong. And the inverse is true when it comes to success.

Kanté was awesome but he certainly didn't clear any of the 100's of crosses sent into our box when we sat back on 1-0 leads and waited to counterattack. We had a team that covered for each other.

[LDNMagic90]

Looks like Villa need a new CB, Diego Carlos is out with a ruptured achilles . This sucks because he was head and shoulders above the rest of our CBs and I saw why we bought him.

I wouldn't mind taking Chalobah on loan as a stop gap since it's harder to grab a CB that's a starter for another team.

[LDNMagic90]

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[Baphomet]

Looks like Dele Alli is going to Besiktas as well.

He had the world at his feet at Spurs under Pochettino. Maybe he'll find some form again outside of England, but I doubt it. Real shame.

[LDNMagic90]

Looks like Dele Alli is going to Besiktas as well.

He had the world at his feet at Spurs under Pochettino. Maybe he'll find some form again outside of England, but I doubt it. Real shame.

Huge waste of talent, I think the Spurs 'All or Nothing' highlighted how he can be as a player and it's a shame. He should've been a name we are talking about as one of Englands best midfielders.

[Baphomet]

Huge waste of talent, I think the Spurs 'All or Nothing' highlighted how he can be as a player and it's a shame. He should've been a name we are talking about as one of Englands best midfielders.

He just can't impact football matches anymore. Doesn't make his trademark far post runs, doesn't hold the ball up like he used to, he's just a passenger. He had 70 goals from midfield before he'd even turned 23. Staggering how it can go so bad so quickly.