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NYKat wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:great news that nobody wants randle. further more cementing his future as a knick. lets go!
The guy just reshaped his whole physique, not a lot of players with that level of discipline after signing a long term deal.
that level of commitment indicates to me that he can regain and possibly exceed his form from two years ago
bearadonisdna wrote:Reign23 wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
you guys are fooling yourselves.
am sure the knicks could salary dump him for no assets tomorrow, but the Fo does not view him the same way the butthurt booers do.
They wont trade randle without getting positive return back.
lakers have to give assets for RW.
just more board lies and fans flat out not getting it.
no wonder dolan have such a hard time finding success
no they can‘t. it just is the truth. and of course Russ sucks af but he is an expiring. why don‘t people get this?
player one for one w/o contracts I definitely would rather have Randle. but he makes 82 million after 22/23 and westbrook makes NONE.
Just Remember they don’t want to .
Really thinking the Knicks can’t give Julie away is conjecture because the FO has unlikely pursued those type of trades .
You don’t think Boston , Chicago , Brooklyn , etc etc couldn’t use Randle for free? The point is the FO isn’t looking to make that move .
TheGreenArrow wrote:
From the cavs beat writer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So this should put to rest some of the cavs rumors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moocow007 wrote:RHODEY wrote:moocow007 wrote:
No way. Once the talk picks up we'll blow through 100 pages in no time. We're hitting at least 12 before the trade happens.
OK but if Im right you have to broadcast on your no blood no foul podcast
LOL I've actually by itching to do a new podcast but the rest of the guys are MIA. Maybe I try and go solo? That or I do what I really want, find a hot chick that's willing to co-host with me.
Reign23 wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:Reign23 wrote:no they can‘t. it just is the truth. and of course Russ sucks af but he is an expiring. why don‘t people get this?
player one for one w/o contracts I definitely would rather have Randle. but he makes 82 million after 22/23 and westbrook makes NONE.
Just Remember they don’t want to .
Really thinking the Knicks can’t give Julie away is conjecture because the FO has unlikely pursued those type of trades .
You don’t think Boston , Chicago , Brooklyn , etc etc couldn’t use Randle for free? The point is the FO isn’t looking to make that move .
yes ^^ of course I think that. because he can‘t play off the ball and all 3 teams have way better players. why would you add Randle? to get the ball out of tatum/browns/KD/kyrie/DDR/Lavines hands while paying a billion $ tax?
sp6r=underrated wrote:RHODEY wrote:Thread 10 - I predicted if this trade is going to go down it would happen here. At this point I hope it doesn't go down.
I'm hoping it fails too. Does anyone really think he'll ever be consistently top 10 in the NBA? I don't. And I doubt he'll even have 1 year as a top 5 guy.
I don't want to break the bank for a guy who is in the 10 to 25 range. Especially when there are roster fit issues. Roster fit issues are ignored for true superstars but for everyone else it is a concern.
bearadonisdna wrote:Reign23 wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
Just Remember they don’t want to .
Really thinking the Knicks can’t give Julie away is conjecture because the FO has unlikely pursued those type of trades .
You don’t think Boston , Chicago , Brooklyn , etc etc couldn’t use Randle for free? The point is the FO isn’t looking to make that move .
yes ^^ of course I think that. because he can‘t play off the ball and all 3 teams have way better players. why would you add Randle? to get the ball out of tatum/browns/KD/kyrie/DDR/Lavines hands while paying a billion $ tax?
Of course he can play off the ball he is a PF!
His role on this team is to be the engine , Blame the coach not the player.
Way better players ?
Horford , Brooklyn has NOBODY so KD has to play pf , and Bulls only have question mark pat Williams .
Julius makes them all a better team .
Btw Julius makes less money than Al freakin triple single every other game Horford.
Why would they pay much tax ? They sending out the same salary they getting in .
They wouldn’t not pay more than they already are so it’s a non factor .
Chanel Bomber wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:Reign23 wrote:yes ^^ of course I think that. because he can‘t play off the ball and all 3 teams have way better players. why would you add Randle? to get the ball out of tatum/browns/KD/kyrie/DDR/Lavines hands while paying a billion $ tax?
Of course he can play off the ball he is a PF!
His role on this team is to be the engine , Blame the coach not the player.
Way better players ?
Horford , Brooklyn has NOBODY so KD has to play pf , and Bulls only have question mark pat Williams .
Julius makes them all a better team .
Btw Julius makes less money than Al freakin triple single every other game Horford.
Why would they pay much tax ? They sending out the same salary they getting in .
They wouldn’t not pay more than they already are so it’s a non factor .
Horford is a better basketball player than Randle.
Deeeez Knicks wrote:We should have traded Randle for Batum when we had the chance.
RHODEY wrote:sp6r=underrated wrote:RHODEY wrote:Thread 10 - I predicted if this trade is going to go down it would happen here. At this point I hope it doesn't go down.
I'm hoping it fails too. Does anyone really think he'll ever be consistently top 10 in the NBA? I don't. And I doubt he'll even have 1 year as a top 5 guy.
I don't want to break the bank for a guy who is in the 10 to 25 range. Especially when there are roster fit issues. Roster fit issues are ignored for true superstars but for everyone else it is a concern.
I actually think he could put up some sick numbers offensively at the garden, but his defense scares me..doubly so because we don't have a Dejounte Murray to somewhat make up for it. I still would want him but for no more than the proposed offer -while switching out IQ for Obi.
IMO this talk about RJ is all cap to get the Knicks to move off of more picks and Grimes in addition to Obi. F@ck that mess.
bearadonisdna wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
Of course he can play off the ball he is a PF!
His role on this team is to be the engine , Blame the coach not the player.
Way better players ?
Horford , Brooklyn has NOBODY so KD has to play pf , and Bulls only have question mark pat Williams .
Julius makes them all a better team .
Btw Julius makes less money than Al freakin triple single every other game Horford.
Why would they pay much tax ? They sending out the same salary they getting in .
They wouldn’t not pay more than they already are so it’s a non factor .
Horford is a better basketball player than Randle.
Not even close. More efficient on lesser volume sure.
There’s no way Horford makes us a better team than Julius Randle .
TheGreenArrow wrote:
From the cavs beat writer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So this should put to rest some of the cavs rumors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3toheadmelo wrote:great news that nobody wants randle. further more cementing his future as a knick. lets go!
iLLmatic860 wrote:Will Spida get traded by 2k23 release?
Chanel Bomber wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:Horford is a better basketball player than Randle.
Not even close. More efficient on lesser volume sure.
There’s no way Horford makes us a better team than Julius Randle .
And I think he would.
He might not do as well as Randle if you put him in his role as the hub of the Knicks' offense.
But he's a much better defender and a better off-ball player than Randle, who projects much better than Randle as a piece on a winning team.
It's not some weird coincidence that Horford's made the playoffs 13 times in his career, and Randle only once. It's not just about help - Horford played a big part in the success of his teams. Including last year on the Celtics.
A lot of players can put up numbers if given a high usage. But do you contribute to winning on defense? Do you contribute to winning when you don't have the ball? These answers are a resounding yes in the case of Horford.
Chanel Bomber wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:We should have traded Randle for Batum when we had the chance.
I agree but to be fair without Randle we don't make the playoffs in 2021 and so let's be honest that run was fun.
It was our only enjoyable season since 2013. It's almost a decade ago
mg wrote:TheGreenArrow wrote:
From the cavs beat writer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So this should put to rest some of the cavs rumors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This guy typically throws stuff on the wall too. I will say the Cavs and Jazz have been tight for awhile long before Ainge showed up in Utah. They have done a number of deals the past few years. I do agree it was probably more of a due diligence thing on the part of the Cavs though. When someone like DM comes available of course most teams are going to at least do some due diligence and make a call or two.
