NBA Expansion

DoItALL9 · Post #21 » by **DoItALL9** » Wed Sep 7, 2022 9:20 pm

Willie Ramirez of the AP reports that sources have told him that the NBA wants to announce expansion plans to both Seattle and Las Vegas during this preseason. It's long been the expectation that when the NBA expands that Seattle and Las Vegas would be near the top of the list of cities under consideration.

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

Post #22 » by **Cactus Jack** » Thu Sep 8, 2022 12:34 am

DoItALL9 wrote:Willie Ramirez of the AP reports that sources have told him that the NBA wants to announce expansion plans to both Seattle and Las Vegas during this preseason. It's long been the expectation that when the NBA expands that Seattle and Las Vegas would be near the top of the list of cities under consideration.

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

The tweet was deleted. :wink:

Read on Twitter

Det the Threat · Post #23 » by **Det the Threat** » Thu Sep 8, 2022 8:56 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
DoItALL9 wrote:Willie Ramirez of the AP reports that sources have told him that the NBA wants to announce expansion plans to both Seattle and Las Vegas during this preseason. It's long been the expectation that when the NBA expands that Seattle and Las Vegas would be near the top of the list of cities under consideration.

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

The tweet was deleted.

Read on Twitter

Can't wait for someone to tease another announcement or return of the Sonics around February and the owner meetings.
Of course just for Silver to give an interview and talk about "now is not the time".... :lol:

BTW:
That sums it up.

Read on Twitter

Det the Threat · Post #24 » by **Det the Threat** » Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:08 pm

Nothing new from Tod Leiweke.

We won't get ahead of the NBA on that

Det the Threat · Post #25 » by **Det the Threat** » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:36 am

Cactus Jack wrote:

Read on Twitter

OK, so...

Yay or Nay?

The rest doesn't matter and just bores the f*** out of me as it's put up or shut up time for the NBA.

DoItALL9 · Post #26 » by **DoItALL9** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:01 pm

Edit: Here's a link to the ESPN article:

Read on Twitter

Silver also addressed a question about league expansion, which he told Suns employees the league will look at more closely once it is through its upcoming television rights negotiations. (The NBA's current TV rights package, a nine-year deal with ESPN and Turner Sports, is slated to expire after the 2024-25 season.)

In order to evaluate any teams coming in, we need to know where we stand from a media standpoint; that's obviously our most significant form of revenue overall," Silver told employees.

But Silver also discussed the "potential dilution of talent" -- that is, adding more teams would weaken the overall product.

"None of us can remember going into a season where there was a perception of so much competition, but, still, the goal is to have 30 competitive teams, not 20, or whatever it is, so think we do pay attention to the dilution factor," he told employees.

Still, Silver said that the league is, overall, doing well and that there is no shortage of strong candidates for new teams in new cities, though he didn't name any specific cities. Las Vegas and Seattle are considered likely candidates for new NBA teams should the league expand.

Det the Threat · Post #27 » by **Det the Threat** » Tue Nov 1, 2022 6:27 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:Edit: Here's a link to the ESPN article:

Read on Twitter

Silver also addressed a question about league expansion, which he told Suns employees the league will look at more closely once it is through its upcoming television rights negotiations. (The NBA's current TV rights package, a nine-year deal with ESPN and Turner Sports, is slated to expire after the 2024-25 season.)

In order to evaluate any teams coming in, we need to know where we stand from a media standpoint; that's obviously our most significant form of revenue overall," Silver told employees.

But Silver also discussed the "potential dilution of talent" -- that is, adding more teams would weaken the overall product.

"None of us can remember going into a season where there was a perception of so much competition, but, still, the goal is to have 30 competitive teams, not 20, or whatever it is, so think we do pay attention to the dilution factor," he told employees.

Still, Silver said that the league is, overall, doing well and that there is no shortage of strong candidates for new teams in new cities, though he didn't name any specific cities. Las Vegas and Seattle are considered likely candidates for new NBA teams should the league expand.

OK, so another round of "not now" by the league.

I also find it cringeworthy that he's now also talking about "potential dilution of talent" to stall those talks.

The NBA is the only one of the four major sports leagues with less than 32 teams, while it also requires the lowest number of players.
It's also the only one of those leagues with an actual global game that's probably #2 world wide(behind soccer, which no one will beat) in active players and has loads of talent to choose from given how easy(cheap/affordable) it is to play the game.

But hey, let's wait another decade to eventually bring a team back to Seattle, that should've never left.
Maybe they can win over those 30 year olds who still remember their parents talking about how the city actually had a team before....

Dick Tate · Post #28 » by **Dick Tate** » Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:59 pm

Now they're throwing Mexico City into the mix. Probably planning on having a bidding war when the time comes. Fun.

OzzyOzz · Post #29 » by **OzzyOzz** » Mon May 22, 2023 12:21 am

We're getting a team in 2026, it will be announced in 2025. So, let's start getting ready...

Who as GM?
Who to draft?
Who to draft in expansion draft?
Redesign team logo?

Post #30 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon May 22, 2023 12:30 am

OzzyOzz wrote:We're getting a team in 2026, it will be announced in 2025. So, let's start getting ready...

Who as GM?
Who to draft?
Who to draft in expansion draft?
Redesign team logo?

You got a source?

OzzyOzz · Post #31 » by **OzzyOzz** » Mon May 22, 2023 6:19 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
OzzyOzz wrote:We're getting a team in 2026, it will be announced in 2025. So, let's start getting ready...

Who as GM?
Who to draft?
Who to draft in expansion draft?
Redesign team logo?

You got a source?

No, not at all. Just a hunch. CBA and TV contracts expire over the next 2 years...so if there ever was a time for it, it's now. Expansion is long overdue. Seattle has everything in place. I mean, they aren't going to say no to money. Expansion in 2026 isn't just me speculating, lots of people see it too.. because it makes sense from a business standpoint. I'm more than optimistic. I'm expectant.

Dick Tate · Post #32 » by **Dick Tate** » Tue May 23, 2023 11:19 pm

OzzyOzz wrote:We're getting a team in 2026, it will be announced in 2025. So, let's start getting ready...

Who as GM?
Who to draft?
Who to draft in expansion draft?
Redesign team logo?

Have you heard what's going to happen to the Blazers? 8-)

DoItALL9 · Post #33 » by **DoItALL9** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:39 pm

OzzyOzz wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
OzzyOzz wrote:We're getting a team in 2026, it will be announced in 2025. So, let's start getting ready...

Who as GM?
Who to draft?
Who to draft in expansion draft?
Redesign team logo?

You got a source?

No, not at all. Just a hunch. CBA and TV contracts expire over the next 2 years...so if there ever was a time for it, it's now. Expansion is long overdue. Seattle has everything in place. I mean, they aren't going to say no to money. Expansion in 2026 isn't just me speculating, lots of people see it too.. because it makes sense from a business standpoint. I'm more than optimistic. I'm expectant.

Were you optimistic or expectant during the last two CBA negotiations and TV deal renewals? Why or why not?

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

OzzyOzz · Post #34 » by **OzzyOzz** » Thu May 25, 2023 5:14 pm

DoItALL9 wrote:
OzzyOzz wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:You got a source?

No, not at all. Just a hunch. CBA and TV contracts expire over the next 2 years...so if there ever was a time for it, it's now. Expansion is long overdue. Seattle has everything in place. I mean, they aren't going to say no to money. Expansion in 2026 isn't just me speculating, lots of people see it too.. because it makes sense from a business standpoint. I'm more than optimistic. I'm expectant.
Were you optimistic or expectant during the last two CBA negotiations and TV deal renewals? Why or why not?

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

No. It was too soon, the Key Arena only recently finished renovations, and also a newish comish would be hesitant to instantly add teams out of nowhere.

None of those things are factors anymore.

Post #35 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:08 am

Read on Twitter

DoItALL9 · Post #36 » by **DoItALL9** » Thu Jun 8, 2023 10:37 pm

It's a shame money is making them slow-play this process.

Sent from my LM-G710 using RealGM mobile app

payton2kemp · Post #37 » by **payton2kemp** » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:41 am

Cactus Jack wrote:

Read on Twitter

I just don't see it happening. The value of the expansion fee is going to be less valuable than the new TV deal with two less teams to share it with overtime. Might be valuable for owners looking to sell, but owners who want to keep their teams long term would probably rather keep the share of the TV revenue.

Unless the expansion fee is like $5 or $6 billion.

Post #38 » by **Cactus Jack** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:35 pm

Read on Twitter

Dick Tate · Post #39 » by **Dick Tate** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:58 am

Cactus Jack wrote:

Read on Twitter

Excerpts from that article:

(2022)"at some point, this league invariably will expand, but it's not at this moment that we are discussing it."

A year later, his tone is markedly different.

"...there'll be a very open process at the time already to consider expansion. But that's not yet. That's not yet now."

Conclusion: The writer should re-think his use of the words "markedly different".

Post #40 » by **Cactus Jack** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:51 am

Dick, you make a valid point.