Offseason thread vol 9 - RUN IT BYK

AirP. · Post #861 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 3:05 pm

I'm interested to see if this current 5 practicing together will be for teams with bigger front lines, like for instance Minnesota(Tuesday) and teams like Cleveland and then different starting 5s when they can start smaller. Very interesting first starting 5 shown the public since it's been mentioned Spoelstra will look at a lot of different combinations.

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wadenation305 · Post #862 » by **wadenation305** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 3:24 pm

AirP. wrote:I'm interested to see if this current 5 practicing together will be for teams with bigger front lines, like for instance Minnesota(Tuesday) and teams like Cleveland and then different starting 5s when they can start smaller. Very interesting first starting 5 shown the public since it's been mentioned Spoelstra will look at a lot of different combinations.

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That second line up is straight up :cry:

AirP. · Post #863 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 3:28 pm

A nice article on The Athletic to summarize Miami's offseason.

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Overall grade from the offseason: C-
Team status: Contenders

Guards

Did Miami improve here? No real change here. Bringing back Oladipo on that much money raised some eyebrows for sure. He had some good moments last season, and he had some brutal moments last season. Either they really believe in Oladipo’s health, or they want to dangle the contract in a deal before the deadline. Love the Martin money on the re-sign. That’s going to be great value for a rotation wing like him. Strus is going into a contract year, and Robinson still needs to prove he can be an elite shooter post-payday.

Forwards

Did Miami improve here? Clear downgrade at the forward spot with P.J. Tucker heading to Philadelphia. Drafting Jović is an interesting move by Pat Riley and Co., but he’s probably going to take some time. This team likes to play with its wings playing all over the floor, especially Butler on defense, so I don’t make too much out of their thin forward group. But losing Tucker definitely hurts.

Center

Did Miami improve here? The big man group is pretty much the same as last year. Good money on the re-sign for Dedmon, who has proven to be a really good backup big man. Predictably, the Heat brought back Haslem for a 20th season. If Adebayo is healthier this season, he’ll be a candidate for Defensive Player of the Year, but they need him to be better in the postseason.

Upcoming Season

This coming season, they’re dealing with an increasingly deep and dangerous Eastern Conference. The Heat’s status quo is still good enough to be a top-four seed in the East, but they’re going to likely need to find a higher gear to remain on top in the regular season and make a deep run in the postseason. If Butler gives them 70 games, if Lowry can be in better shape and give them 70 games, if Adebayo gives them 70 games and if Herro manages to play better team ball than individual ball, they could end up being the best team in the East again. But there are several teams that believe the East title goes through them, including a Celtics team that did get better and a Milwaukee team that believes it just needs to be healthy.

AirP. · Post #864 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 3:31 pm

Different video attached to this tweet vs the 1st/2nd team tweet.

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #865 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 4:47 pm

I’m warming up to the idea of Lowry-Strus-Jimmy-Bam-Yurt now that all 3 of those guys in the frontcourt have been working on their jumpers more. I still question the defense but I don’t doubt Spo can figure it out.

That being said, I think the 2nd tweet AirP sent with the black team is the starting lineup

Kobewade11 · Post #866 » by **Kobewade11** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:07 pm

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Kyle Lowry and Robinson matches. Should Heat get them 1st round picks? I wouldn't count it out. Could open the Heat up to a trade for a star.

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Just saying. Lowry and Robinson fits the Lakers roster. Playoff experience players. Opens up the Heat to offer a boat load of picks with Herro an expiring Westbrook for Durant or someone else.

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LA doesnt want long term deals. They’ll eat Buddy’s contract because he fits a role, Turner is an expiring. No way they’d give up two unprotected picks for Lowry and Duncan.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #867 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:13 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #869 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:29 pm

Man, Lowry looks washed defensively. I’m not sure he can guard starting guards effectively at all anymore. Herro blowing by you is one thing but when we’re talking about Duncan cooking you to the rim it’s another

AirP. · Post #870 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:32 pm

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AirP. · Post #871 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:35 pm

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AirP. · Post #872 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:36 pm

Looked like Yurtseven didn't rotate properly, at the very least he needed to be outside the circle ready to take a charge or contest the shot, Herro would have made the shot though, he slowed up to stop a possible charge.

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3ammy3uck3ts · Post #873 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:37 pm

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The Bam 3s the media didn’t want you to see the other day

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #874 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:40 pm

AirP. wrote:Looked like Yurtseven didn't rotate properly, at the very least he needed to be outside the circle ready to take a charge or contest the shot, Herro would have made the shot though, he slowed up to stop a possible charge.

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I’d put the blame on Kyle, dude has to show some sort of resistance. That would give Yurt the extra time to rotate or possibly wouldn’t even need the rotation because they could’ve stopped Herros momentum on the Bam hedge and recover

AirP. · Post #875 » by **AirP.** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 5:48 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
AirP. wrote:Looked like Yurtseven didn't rotate properly, at the very least he needed to be outside the circle ready to take a charge or contest the shot, Herro would have made the shot though, he slowed up to stop a possible charge.

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I’d put the blame on Kyle, dude has to show some sort of resistance. That would give Yurt the extra time to rotate or possibly wouldn’t even need the rotation because they could’ve stopped Herros momentum on the Bam hedge and recover

Nope, Lowry was rotating off of Robinson so Herro attacked which made Lowry unable to stop him(good move by Herro seeing the opening) and Bam didn't rotate enough to stop him attacking the rim. The only thing Lowry or anyone could have done was decide that Herro was going to attack and raced for position in front of the rim leaving Herro a wide-open shot. Lowry did what he needed to do, not give Herro an open jumper, the rotations weren't there. It was a very good read by Herro, had Bam rotated to try to stop Herro the play was for Herro would have been passing to the corner where Lowry needed to cover for Bam.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #876 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:05 pm

AirP. wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
AirP. wrote:Looked like Yurtseven didn't rotate properly, at the very least he needed to be outside the circle ready to take a charge or contest the shot, Herro would have made the shot though, he slowed up to stop a possible charge.

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I’d put the blame on Kyle, dude has to show some sort of resistance. That would give Yurt the extra time to rotate or possibly wouldn’t even need the rotation because they could’ve stopped Herros momentum on the Bam hedge and recover

Nope, Lowry was rotating off of Robinson so Herro attacked which made Lowry unable to stop him(good move by Herro seeing the opening) and Bam didn't rotate enough to stop him attacking the rim. The only thing Lowry or anyone could have done was decide that Herro was going to attack and raced for position in front of the rim leaving Herro a wide-open shot. Lowry did what he needed to do, not give Herro an open jumper, the rotations weren't there. It was a very good read by Herro, had Bam rotated to try to stop Herro the play was for Herro would have been passing to the corner where Lowry needed to cover for Bam.

That’s a simple hedge and recover from Bam, why’s he going to send Lowry to cover the shooter rotating all the way from the top of the key? Why is Lowry rotating off Robinson when both Strus and Yurt were there and Jimmy had Yurts weak side help? It’s simple ball, Lowry was out of position. He was horrible defensively last year so this shouldn’t come as a surprise

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #877 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:08 pm

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Happens again here, why is he giving a straight line to the rim? That’s a simple pass and either a floater or if Bams help there is a second sooner it’s a simple dump off to whoever is wide open on the weak side for an easy layup. Defensively Dipo may just be more up to the task as our starting PG but we know that’s not going to happen

al bondiga · Post #878 » by **al bondiga** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:18 pm

Let's say it... the team is good, maybe not a title contender unless bam or hero suddenly become superstars... almost exactly the same as last season...guiddi Up :wink:

here we go!!

heatwillbeback · Post #879 » by **heatwillbeback** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:23 pm

https://heatnation.com/media/caleb-martin-says-its-kind-of-a-sign-of-disrespect-that-miami-heat-fans-are-so-worried-about-the-teams-pf-spot/

Dude....you are 6-5, 205. Maybe a little heavier now (I read he put on 8 pounds). We have every right to be concerned.

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #880 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Sat Oct 1, 2022 6:24 pm

al bondiga wrote:Let's say it... the team is good, maybe not a title contender unless bam or hero suddenly become superstars... almost exactly the same as last season...guiddi Up here we go!!

I thought the Lowry acquisition made us legit title contender buts let’s be real, we’ve been one shot from 2 finals in the last 3 years. Who else can say that? We’re legit contenders regardless but I agree Bam and Herro Juno’s could be the difference in putting us over the top. I’m optimistic both will improve n