Woj: Wolves trade for Gobert

[Nick K]

When taking about all of the 1sts and pseudo-1sts we gave up, just keep in mind that one of those pseudo-1sts Bolmaro is not a lock to make the Utah roster.

I asked the Jazz board about that and haven’t seen a response yet. It would surprise me if he did.

Our board is dead, and honestly I'm not sure anyone knows. Our roster is still kind of a mess and I'm not sure what the Jazz want to assemble going forward. That said he's young talent and I think they'll find away to keep him just I'm case.

Sorry to hear that Rauxcee. We know the feeling for 32 years. Hang in there. Hope reigns eternal.

[winforlose]

I asked the Jazz board about that and haven’t seen a response yet. It would surprise me if he did.

Our board is dead, and honestly I'm not sure anyone knows. Our roster is still kind of a mess and I'm not sure what the Jazz want to assemble going forward. That said he's young talent and I think they'll find away to keep him just I'm case.

Sorry to hear that Rauxcee. We know the feeling for 32 years. Hang in there. Hope reigns eternal.

At least Jazz fans can follow Gobert and Paschall to the Wolves. Our bandwagon is gonna keep growing every day.

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

Rudy makes his unofficial official wolves debut tonight

[winforlose]

Rudy makes his unofficial official wolves debut tonight

On ESPN too. Finally ALL EYES NORTH!!!!

[TimberKat]

It's almost comical how well Connelly recouped the depth lost in the Gobert trade.

You look back at the initial thoughts and people were critical because we were trading away two starters and the 2021-22 sixth man in Beverley, Vanderbilt and Beasley.

I agree, and the hardest thing for a good talent evaluator to do is to find minutes for all his good acquisitions.

Yes, we traded 5 players for Gobert, but that consolidation trade creates opportunity to get more out of talented players the Wolves found, who were limited in impact solely because better players were ahead of them.

God-darn-it Shrink.....that just makes too much sense! "It's called addition by subtraction"

I am overjoyed by this trade. It is "bold and visionary". Simply put, we are going to kick-ass because of it!

Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

[winforlose]

I agree, and the hardest thing for a good talent evaluator to do is to find minutes for all his good acquisitions.

Yes, we traded 5 players for Gobert, but that consolidation trade creates opportunity to get more out of talented players the Wolves found, who were limited in impact solely because better players were ahead of them.

God-darn-it Shrink.....that just makes too much sense! "It's called addition by subtraction"

I am overjoyed by this trade. It is "bold and visionary". Simply put, we are going to kick-ass because of it!

Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

Kessler is a wild card. Not sure if he would have been better than Knight. Time will tell.

Lea is unlikely to make the Jazz roster, and I am not 100% sure we didn’t just dump him for a salary and a roster spot. No loss there.

Bev and Beasley were necessary to make the money work. I would love it if Bev made such a mess of the Lakers locker room that they bought him out and he came here. Not gonna happen, but would be fun. Short of that, they were the cost of doing business.

V8 I would have kept. He can defend the SF and PF and has value as an emergency center. He would have been the 11th man fighting for time against Prince and Anderson, but still great depth at a great price. The trade exemption might come in handy later, or it might not. V8 over Knight is a clear win.

[KGdaBom]

God-darn-it Shrink.....that just makes too much sense! "It's called addition by subtraction"

I am overjoyed by this trade. It is "bold and visionary". Simply put, we are going to kick-ass because of it!

Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

Kessler is a wild card. Not sure if he would have been better than Knight. Time will tell.

Lea is unlikely to make the Jazz roster, and I am not 100% sure we didn’t just dump him for a salary and a roster spot. No loss there.

Bev and Beasley were necessary to make the money work. I would love it if Bev made such a mess of the Lakers locker room that they bought him out and he came here. Not gonna happen, but would be fun. Short of that, they were the cost of doing business.

V8 I would have kept. He can defend the SF and PF and has value as an emergency center. He would have been the 11th man fighting for time against Prince and Anderson, but still great depth at a great price. The trade exemption might come in handy later, or it might not. V8 over Knight is a clear win.

Kessler has been looking quite good in practice and his one preseason game so far.

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Supposed we could keep all five of those players. Would any of them make us better consider the top 10 guys are: Gobert, KAT, JMac, Ant, DLow, Andersen, Prince, Forbes, Nowell, JMcL? Who would you swap out? The only pick that is at risk is the 2027. The 2026 pick swap is low risk as Jazz also have a pick swap with Cavs. Sure we are lock-in and difficult to make other moves other than move DLow.
Just win baby! Not going to worry about picks now. I think Town and Gobert playing together will work out great. No one complained Dirk Nowitzki was too tall and should play center.

Kessler is a wild card. Not sure if he would have been better than Knight. Time will tell.

Lea is unlikely to make the Jazz roster, and I am not 100% sure we didn’t just dump him for a salary and a roster spot. No loss there.

Bev and Beasley were necessary to make the money work. I would love it if Bev made such a mess of the Lakers locker room that they bought him out and he came here. Not gonna happen, but would be fun. Short of that, they were the cost of doing business.

V8 I would have kept. He can defend the SF and PF and has value as an emergency center. He would have been the 11th man fighting for time against Prince and Anderson, but still great depth at a great price. The trade exemption might come in handy later, or it might not. V8 over Knight is a clear win.

Kessler has been looking quite good in practice and his one preseason game so far.

There might come a day when we wished we gave Naz and kept Kessler.

[Klomp]

There might come a day when we wished we gave Naz and kept Kessler.

There will never come a day when we wished we gave McDaniels and kept a 1st or two.

[winforlose]

There might come a day when we wished we gave Naz and kept Kessler.

There will never come a day when we wished we gave McDaniels and kept a 1st or two.

Did I say that? Have I ever said that we should have given up MCD? It would take a strange series of events to get me to even consider that position (like a career ending injury or one of the picks turning into the next Lebron James. Or worse both picks turning into the next Lebron James.)

[KGdaBom]

There might come a day when we wished we gave Naz and kept Kessler.

There will never come a day when we wished we gave McDaniels and kept a 1st or two.

Did I say that? Have I ever said that we should have given up MCD? It would take a strange series of events to get me to even consider that position (like a career ending injury or one of the picks turning into the next Lebron James. Or worse both picks turning into the next Lebron James.)

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

[winforlose]

There will never come a day when we wished we gave McDaniels and kept a 1st or two.

Did I say that? Have I ever said that we should have given up MCD? It would take a strange series of events to get me to even consider that position (like a career ending injury or one of the picks turning into the next Lebron James. Or worse both picks turning into the next Lebron James.)

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

I hear you. But, he quoted me, and made no distinction between his thought and mine. For example, “maybe we do regret not trading Naz instead of Kessler, but we won’t regret trading a couple extra picks to keep Jaden McDaniels.” In those circumstances my response was reasonable.

[Klomp]

Did I say that? Have I ever said that we should have given up MCD? It would take a strange series of events to get me to even consider that position (like a career ending injury or one of the picks turning into the next Lebron James. Or worse both picks turning into the next Lebron James.)

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

I hear you. But, he quoted me, and made no distinction between his thought and mine. For example, “maybe we do regret not trading Naz instead of Kessler, but we won’t regret trading a couple extra picks to keep Jaden McDaniels.” In those circumstances my response was reasonable.

Just adding to your point.

[winforlose]

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

I hear you. But, he quoted me, and made no distinction between his thought and mine. For example, “maybe we do regret not trading Naz instead of Kessler, but we won’t regret trading a couple extra picks to keep Jaden McDaniels.” In those circumstances my response was reasonable.

Just adding to your point.

My bad, I misunderstood.

[Domejandro]

To be fair, I highly doubt Naz Reid and Walker Kessler were exchangeable. Utah definitely wanted Kessler, in that trade.

[winforlose]

To be fair, I highly doubt Naz Reid and Walker Kessler were exchangeable. Utah definitely wanted Kessler, in that trade.

Maybe, but the trade talks started before the draft, so I don’t know. I think there are a lot of questions about those negotiations we simply will never know the answers to.

[KGdaBom]

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

I hear you. But, he quoted me, and made no distinction between his thought and mine. For example, “maybe we do regret not trading Naz instead of Kessler, but we won’t regret trading a couple extra picks to keep Jaden McDaniels.” In those circumstances my response was reasonable.

Just adding to your point.

WFL I look at it like Klomp said here. We all get a little paranoid once in a while. I certainly do. Some people are out to get you. I've called out Zonarosa on his IMO hostile approach with you.

[KGdaBom]

To be fair, I highly doubt Naz Reid and Walker Kessler were exchangeable. Utah definitely wanted Kessler, in that trade.

I think Utah looked at Kessler like Rudy Lite. I think you're right and we couldn't have swapped. Yahoo is projecting Kessler with 130 blocks this season. That's the 6th most in the entire league.

[KGdaBom]

To be fair, I highly doubt Naz Reid and Walker Kessler were exchangeable. Utah definitely wanted Kessler, in that trade.

Maybe, but the trade talks started before the draft, so I don’t know. I think there are a lot of questions about those negotiations we simply will never know the answers to.

It's possible those trade talks influenced us drafting Kessler. As you said we will never know.

[shrink]

So many times people think someone is arguing with them when they're not. Klomp was just making an observation. No more or no less. He was in no way saying anything about your thoughts on McDaniels.

I hear you. But, he quoted me, and made no distinction between his thought and mine. For example, “maybe we do regret not trading Naz instead of Kessler, but we won’t regret trading a couple extra picks to keep Jaden McDaniels.” In those circumstances my response was reasonable.

Just adding to your point.

Yeah, I’ve found myself on both sides of posts like this. It’s just the acrimonious nature of the internet - IRL it’d be easier to tell.

These days, I try to remember to start posts like this with, “Right, and ..”. And unfortunately, I usually forget to do it, so I apologize in advance.