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Post#161 » by leolozon » Tue Oct 11, 2022 11:54 am

KhalilS wrote:Campazzu is a vet min guy, can be cut whenever a trade is available, I don't see anything wrong with signing him, he's RS stopgap option, and with Mavs spacing he may be abke to succeed.


The problem is that the front office looks incompetent.

-We can only play Dragic once in a while.
-Frank or Josh can be the 3rd ballhandler.
-Oh sh*t, season is starting. What about that guy who couldn't play in the playoffs, can't defend and can't really shoot?

It's like they were expecting someone to magically fall into their lap or didn't understand their team.

Most people thought that they had some sort of plan, but it looks like they don't.
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Post#162 » by algope » Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:31 pm

I don´t know what to think about Campazzo. At the end of the day I think is not that bad of a signing. And not because of his quality as a player (It´s an OK player, nothing spectacular but has some value) but because the Mavs have put themselves in a situation in which they have a big hole at guard and will need someone and whit all his limitations, probably Campazzo would have 15-20 minutes in this team if signed.
In any case if this signing goes down the FO will be somehow exposed.
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Post#163 » by Archx » Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:37 pm

No to Brunson and Dragic but yes to Campazzo, Pinson and (almost) Muric... What a disaster of a FO this is, holy ****.
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Post#164 » by Mavrelous » Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:46 pm

leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Campazzu is a vet min guy, can be cut whenever a trade is available, I don't see anything wrong with signing him, he's RS stopgap option, and with Mavs spacing he may be abke to succeed.


The problem is that the front office looks incompetent.

-We have no minutes to give to Dragic.
-Frank or Josh can be the 3rd ballhandler.
-Oh sh*t, season is starting. What about that guy that couldn't play in the playoffs, can't defend and can't really shoot?

It's like they were expecting someone to magically fall into their lap or didn't understand their team.

Most people thought that they had some sort of plan, but it looks like they don't.


Yeah, Dragic should've been signed, and if not Schroeder, but both of them are unavailable, and in Mavs current situation, signing Campazzu costs nothing (except Cuban's money, but it his first tax season in 12 years).
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Post#165 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:50 pm

leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Campazzu is a vet min guy, can be cut whenever a trade is available, I don't see anything wrong with signing him, he's RS stopgap option, and with Mavs spacing he may be abke to succeed.


The problem is that the front office looks incompetent.

-We have no minutes to give to Dragic.
-Frank or Josh can be the 3rd ballhandler.
-Oh sh*t, season is starting. What about that guy that couldn't play in the playoffs, can't defend and can't really shoot?

It's like they were expecting someone to magically fall into their lap or didn't understand their team.

Most people thought that they had some sort of plan, but it looks like they don't.


Exactly. It would be laughable, if they couldn't give minutes to Dragic, but eventually have to give to Campazzo.
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Post#166 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:27 pm

Archx wrote:No to Brunson and Dragic but yes to Campazzo, Pinson and (almost) Muric... What a disaster of a FO this is, holy ****.


It's a joke :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm just waiting for some corporate guy who try to defend those moves. What a shame :oops:
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Post#167 » by Bob8 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 2:51 pm

Archx wrote:No to Brunson and Dragic but yes to Campazzo, Pinson and (almost) Muric... What a disaster of a FO this is, holy ****.


Don't forget Ntilikina, who didn't improve in 5 seasons in Nba and giving some kind of promise to Dorsey.
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Post#168 » by Apz » Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:23 pm

Bob8 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
KhalilS wrote:Campazzu is a vet min guy, can be cut whenever a trade is available, I don't see anything wrong with signing him, he's RS stopgap option, and with Mavs spacing he may be abke to succeed.


The problem is that the front office looks incompetent.

-We have no minutes to give to Dragic.
-Frank or Josh can be the 3rd ballhandler.
-Oh sh*t, season is starting. What about that guy that couldn't play in the playoffs, can't defend and can't really shoot?

It's like they were expecting someone to magically fall into their lap or didn't understand their team.

Most people thought that they had some sort of plan, but it looks like they don't.


Exactly. It would be laughable, if they couldn't give minutes to Dragic, but eventually have to give to Campazzo.


Not the same thing tho. Mavs had minutes to give to dragic, just not the amount of minutes he wanted. Even if we would sign campazzo, which i hope we dont, the minutes he will get is not the amount of minutes dragic wanted guarenteed. If dragic had been intrested in the role/minutes campazzo would get if signed he would have been signed.

Its a week left. We will see what happens but im pretty sure someone more intresting then campazzo will get available. If we get that guy, who knows, but better keep that rosterspot open gor awhile now.
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Post#169 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 5:40 pm

Apz wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
leolozon wrote:
The problem is that the front office looks incompetent.

-We have no minutes to give to Dragic.
-Frank or Josh can be the 3rd ballhandler.
-Oh sh*t, season is starting. What about that guy that couldn't play in the playoffs, can't defend and can't really shoot?

It's like they were expecting someone to magically fall into their lap or didn't understand their team.

Most people thought that they had some sort of plan, but it looks like they don't.


Exactly. It would be laughable, if they couldn't give minutes to Dragic, but eventually have to give to Campazzo.


Not the same thing tho. Mavs had minutes to give to dragic, just not the amount of minutes he wanted. Even if we would sign campazzo, which i hope we dont, the minutes he will get is not the amount of minutes dragic wanted guarenteed. If dragic had been intrested in the role/minutes campazzo would get if signed he would have been signed.

Its a week left. We will see what happens but im pretty sure someone more intresting then campazzo will get available. If we get that guy, who knows, but better keep that rosterspot open gor awhile now.
Good to see someone else gets its.

Campazzo if signed isn't going to be getting more minutes than what Dragic was told he would get. If players don't want the minutes offered like Dragic there really isn't anything you can do. Why does this fall on the Mavs and not Dragic? If Dragic really wanted to play with Luka he would except the role offered to him at this age, but instead he went to a team for a larger role that has a projected win total of 41.5 which is 7 games fewer than Dallas. The way this group talks about Dragic I would have thought the Bulls would be winning the title.

I 100% want another ball handler, but the Mavs were about 10 games over .500 before they made the trade last year. There is no reason to believe they can't be in the same spot this year before the deadline.

The team that starts the season isn't always the team that finishes it like we saw last year.

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Post#170 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:39 pm

I'm very curious to see how many minutes Dragic will play and how many total minutes will play our group of 3rd ballhandler (Frank+Green+Pinson+Dorsey+Campazzo or whoever we sign).

Should be funny if the numbers will be +/- the same :roll:
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Post#171 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:01 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:I'm very curious to see how many minutes Dragic will play and how many total minutes will play our group of 3rd ballhandler (Frank+Green+Pinson+Dorsey+Campazzo or whoever we sign).

Should be funny if the numbers will be +/- the same :roll:


Again why does this matter if he didnt want the offered role?

He opted to take more mins on a lesser team over playing with Luka. There could be more to this but we need to go off of what we know. Don't get me wrong I rather have Dragic over Campazzo, but the he's also about to be 37, doesn't play D, and misses games. Dragic said he's at the end of his career....one would think winning would be his main priority and not being on a team that's on the treadmill of mediocrity.
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Post#172 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:20 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Archx wrote:No to Brunson and Dragic but yes to Campazzo, Pinson and (almost) Muric... What a disaster of a FO this is, holy ****.


It's a joke :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm just waiting for some corporate guy who try to defend those moves. What a shame :oops:


Well we didn't say no to Brunson, actually they offered him a 5yr deal this past summer and a much smaller 4yr deal last yr. Brunson wanted to leave and was a UFA, how he got to be a UFA is a different question. Clearly Brunson wanted his own team, that wasn't going to happen here.

Dragic isn't really that good even if he's better than campazzio

They should go get Kemba or bring back Trey Burke
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Post#173 » by algope » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:50 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I'm very curious to see how many minutes Dragic will play and how many total minutes will play our group of 3rd ballhandler (Frank+Green+Pinson+Dorsey+Campazzo or whoever we sign).

Should be funny if the numbers will be +/- the same :roll:


Again why does this matter if he didnt want the offered role?

He opted to take more mins on a lesser team over playing with Luka. There could be more to this but we need to go off of what we know. Don't get me wrong I rather have Dragic over Campazzo, but the he's also about to be 37, doesn't play D, and misses games. Dragic said he's at the end of his career....one would think winning would be his main priority and not being on a team that's on the treadmill of mediocrity.


We don´t really know what happened. You are repeating the story that the Mavs FO has decided to give. I think that the Mavs didn´t want to sing him so lowered his expectations about minutes, the same way the Bulls wanted him so made him know. At the end of the day a player wants to hear that you wants him to be there. The Bulls showed him love, the Mavs not. The same way the Mavs showed love to McGee. It´s easy.
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Post#174 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:19 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I'm very curious to see how many minutes Dragic will play and how many total minutes will play our group of 3rd ballhandler (Frank+Green+Pinson+Dorsey+Campazzo or whoever we sign).

Should be funny if the numbers will be +/- the same :roll:


Again why does this matter if he didnt want the offered role?

He opted to take more mins on a lesser team over playing with Luka. There could be more to this but we need to go off of what we know. Don't get me wrong I rather have Dragic over Campazzo, but the he's also about to be 37, doesn't play D, and misses games. Dragic said he's at the end of his career....one would think winning would be his main priority and not being on a team that's on the treadmill of mediocrity.


It's matter because i would to know what is the role offered ... Really, i want to know that because he said he is at the end of his career so i don't think he had big requests.
He played ~25minutes a game last 4 seasons with a lot of missed games.
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Post#175 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:26 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Archx wrote:No to Brunson and Dragic but yes to Campazzo, Pinson and (almost) Muric... What a disaster of a FO this is, holy ****.


It's a joke :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm just waiting for some corporate guy who try to defend those moves. What a shame :oops:


Well we didn't say no to Brunson, actually they offered him a 5yr deal this past summer and a much smaller 4yr deal last yr. Brunson wanted to leave and was a UFA, how he got to be a UFA is a different question. Clearly Brunson wanted his own team, that wasn't going to happen here.

Dragic isn't really that good even if he's better than campazzio

They should go get Kemba or bring back Trey Burke


Dallas FO wrong every single decisions in this case, starting with the rookie contract and finish with arrived at the FA without the extension.

One of the worse management i've ever seen in NBA history.
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Post#176 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:33 pm

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ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:I'm very curious to see how many minutes Dragic will play and how many total minutes will play our group of 3rd ballhandler (Frank+Green+Pinson+Dorsey+Campazzo or whoever we sign).

Should be funny if the numbers will be +/- the same :roll:


Again why does this matter if he didnt want the offered role?

He opted to take more mins on a lesser team over playing with Luka. There could be more to this but we need to go off of what we know. Don't get me wrong I rather have Dragic over Campazzo, but the he's also about to be 37, doesn't play D, and misses games. Dragic said he's at the end of his career....one would think winning would be his main priority and not being on a team that's on the treadmill of mediocrity.


We don´t really know what happened. You are repeating the story that the Mavs FO has decided to give. I think that the Mavs didn´t want to sing him so lowered his expectations about minutes, the same way the Bulls wanted him so made him know. At the end of the day a player wants to hear that you wants him to be there. The Bulls showed him love, the Mavs not. The same way the Mavs showed love to McGee. It´s easy.
Whats the story the FO put out?

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Post#177 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:36 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
It's a joke :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm just waiting for some corporate guy who try to defend those moves. What a shame :oops:


Well we didn't say no to Brunson, actually they offered him a 5yr deal this past summer and a much smaller 4yr deal last yr. Brunson wanted to leave and was a UFA, how he got to be a UFA is a different question. Clearly Brunson wanted his own team, that wasn't going to happen here.

Dragic isn't really that good even if he's better than campazzio

They should go get Kemba or bring back Trey Burke


Dallas FO wrong every single decisions in this case, starting with the rookie contract and finish with arrived at the FA without the extension.

One of the worse management i've ever seen in NBA history.
Who designed his contact Donnie or Nico?

Brunson picked family and having his own team.

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Post#178 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:52 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:
Well we didn't say no to Brunson, actually they offered him a 5yr deal this past summer and a much smaller 4yr deal last yr. Brunson wanted to leave and was a UFA, how he got to be a UFA is a different question. Clearly Brunson wanted his own team, that wasn't going to happen here.

Dragic isn't really that good even if he's better than campazzio

They should go get Kemba or bring back Trey Burke


Dallas FO wrong every single decisions in this case, starting with the rookie contract and finish with arrived at the FA without the extension.

One of the worse management i've ever seen in NBA history.
Who designed his contact Donnie or Nico?

Brunson picked family and having his own team.

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Obviously Donnie, but Nico was here at the start of the season. He has his fault.

I don't care what Brunson wanted, Dallas can't lose a player like him for nothing.
Dallas can't arrive at the FA without an extension signed, then we can trade him where he wants. No problem.

Bad management. That is not objectionable.
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Post#179 » by ejs78 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:59 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Dallas FO wrong every single decisions in this case, starting with the rookie contract and finish with arrived at the FA without the extension.

One of the worse management i've ever seen in NBA history.
Who designed his contact Donnie or Nico?

Brunson picked family and having his own team.

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Obviously Donnie, but Nico was here at the start of the season. He has his fault.

I don't care what Brunson wanted, Dallas can't lose a player like him for nothing.
Dallas can't arrive at the FA without an extension signed, then we can trade him where he wants. No problem.

Bad management. That is not objectionable.
Its a players league so it kinda matters what the player wants to do.

If he wanted to go to NY when were they going to trade him and for what? He wasn't going to just sit on the team and wait around.

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Post#180 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 9:12 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Who designed his contact Donnie or Nico?

Brunson picked family and having his own team.

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Obviously Donnie, but Nico was here at the start of the season. He has his fault.

I don't care what Brunson wanted, Dallas can't lose a player like him for nothing.
Dallas can't arrive at the FA without an extension signed, then we can trade him where he wants. No problem.

Bad management. That is not objectionable.
Its a players league so it kinda matters what the player wants to do.

If he wanted to go to NY when were they going to trade him? He wasn't going to just sit on the team and wait around.

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You are right, it's a players league.
But i doubt that Brunson wanted to go to NY at the start (and neither in the middle) of the season.

Our FO screwed themselves. Again.

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