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NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST.

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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#501 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:21 am

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Kobewade11 wrote:Lowry has 5 more games to change my mind about taking Twix up on that Westbrook trade


Westbrook for Lowry and Duncan seems appealing from an eye test standpoint in this system.

Spo needs all 3d, two way guys

If Lowry's washed, why not?

You’re eyes are deceiving u if u think Westbrook isn’t terrible. He can put up stats but he’s horribly inefficient and takes away possessions from better players. Lowry sucks but he doesn’t try to do much.

Every player in that trade is trash. The only benefit is that Westbrook’s contract is expiring (which is the biggest positive of any part of the trade). I’m not saying we’ll win anything if we don’t make that move, but we’re definitely doing nothing this year if Westbrook is the PG.


Pretty much the thing these players have going for them is Duncan's shooting, Westbrook's athleticism and expiring contract and Kyle's experience
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#502 » by jele » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:09 am

And we said no to Durant for Bam. :roll:
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Post#503 » by HeatingUp3 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:56 am

Lowry is done. Came to Miami to eat and enjoy the sun.

Oh.. and his 30 MIL
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Post#504 » by Heat_team02 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:42 pm

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Post#505 » by wade44 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:00 pm

jele wrote:And we said no to Durant for Bam. :roll:


The problem goes beyond just Bam though. We’re a flawed team all around. Not sure a core of Jimmy, Durant, and Herro would even be a contender with how flawed our roster construction is
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Post#506 » by Jfh20 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:03 pm

jele wrote:And we said no to Durant for Bam. :roll:


i guess they did that because of KDs age.. so i can kinda understand... you have a small window to win and also no rebuilding assets with the picks youd be giving up... where miami went wrong is not rebuilding. your now stuck with players who arent very good and you cant even trade them for assets to rebuild with... i guess miami can get something for jimmy if they wanted to rebuild... but outside of jimmy i just dont see them gettin anything... just an outright horrific team construction...
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Post#507 » by RexBoyWonder » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:03 pm

HeatingUp3 wrote:Lowry is done. Came to Miami to eat and enjoy the sun.

Oh.. and his 30 MIL


Lowry cost us big time last year and he'll cost us big time this year if we don't make a move.

Really feels like he came here to retire, just wanted a few last checks.
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Post#508 » by twozeroMM » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:45 pm

As much as I'd love to see it, people just need to accept that Jovic just isn't playing. We all know how Spo works when it comes to playing rookies(Herro was an outlier). The only way he plays if a number of injuries happen.
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Post#509 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:48 pm

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MHeat0279 wrote:Boston will come out of the East this year again, they do look good, Tatum and Jalen are playing extremely well, dont see any other East team giving them problems.


It's been 1 game. Literally.


lmao


Yep, you know basketball is one of the easiest sports to predict who will come out of each conference?
Not a betting man, but have been watching basketball for a while and Boston looks very good, in fact they have not missed a beat from last year. Tatum and Jalen are driving that team, and they have improved every year.
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Post#510 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:51 pm

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MHeat0279 wrote:Boston will come out of the East this year again, they do look good, Tatum and Jalen are playing extremely well, dont see any other East team giving them problems.


It's been 1 game. Literally.


lmao


Yep, you know basketball is one of the easiest sports to predict who will come out of each conference?
Not a betting man, but have been watching basketball for a while and Boston looks very good, in fact they have not missed a beat from last year. Tatum and Jalen are driving that team, and they have improved every year.


So when Boston was below .500 at the trade deadline did you have them coming out of the East last year? You had us coming out of the East Jimmys 1st year? Phoenix vs bucks the year following?

They’re definitely better than us though
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Post#511 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:06 pm

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Wiltside wrote:Bam with as many turnovers as made field goals ain't great. It's one game, let's not overreact. But it's an ugly start.

Turnovers were a big problem for us today. That, plus getting nothing from Lowry/Bam when we needed it.

I honestly think Bam will brush it off, but not too sure about Lowry. I think he is truly washed.

There is not much to brush off. We have to be honest about this. We are forcing him to try to be something he’s not going to ever be. A scorer. Bam has no natural offensive inclination.

A perfect example of this was tonight he got a great entry pass and the defender was right behind him trying to take a charge but giving him no room to land when he turned around. Bam turns around, knocks the guy down, pauses for what seems like an eternity, ref calls the obvious block, Bam puts up the layup after it doesn’t even matter anymore.

Like he Literally didn’t even have the instinct to get the ball up to the rim to try for a 3 point play on a gimme like that.

It took me awhile to admit too because he has all the physical tools. But no. The skills and mentality aren’t there. We should have sold high. Or at the very least made other trades to cover his glaring flaws (too small to be a true defensive anchor, too awful on offense to earn his max bucks there)



This is what i have been saying for a long time now, its not a knock on the guy, he is what he is. He is not a natural scorer, he has always look awkward with his offense, still no post game, unreliable shooting, he is athletic and has a knack for defense. What baffles me is that for some reason we decided to make him the cornerstone of our future, this doesnt make any sense at all.
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Post#512 » by HeatIn5 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:07 pm

Wassup guys. Checking in after going down to the game last night. Been a while.

The thing that worries me the most about what I saw last night is that was the first time in a long time that a heat team looked out of shape.

For all the workouts lowry did, for as much as Bam is entering his prime, for all the partying Jimmy did this offseason.

They were all realllly laboring to get up and down the court…. On OPENING night.

We are too small to be out of shape. We’re going to be a very average basketball team and not having a power forward is going to be the reason for it.

That sucks
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Post#513 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:11 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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carnageta wrote:
It's been 1 game. Literally.


lmao


Yep, you know basketball is one of the easiest sports to predict who will come out of each conference?
Not a betting man, but have been watching basketball for a while and Boston looks very good, in fact they have not missed a beat from last year. Tatum and Jalen are driving that team, and they have improved every year.


So when Boston was below .500 at the trade deadline did you have them coming out of the East last year? You had us coming out of the East Jimmys 1st year? Phoenix vs bucks the year following?

They’re definitely better than us though



Injuries can derail a prediction among other things of course. Let me give you an easy one, Boston in the East, Golden State in the West. Dont have a magic ball but those picks look pretty good to me.
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Post#514 » by ShulaDon92 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:19 pm

twozeroMM wrote:As much as I'd love to see it, people just need to accept that Jovic just isn't playing. We all know how Spo works when it comes to playing rookies(Herro was an outlier). The only way he plays if a number of injuries happen.

Spos played plenty of rooks: Chalmers, Nunn, Richardson, Herro. It's not like his roster is packed to the brim. Playing Jovic is a no brainer and fits all the needs...

Yeah, I know. Not gonna happen. No fun. The douche would probably bench Doncic too.
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Post#515 » by MHeat0279 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:21 pm

Have you ever asked yourself the question why did we look so fluid playing when our main guys were injured last year? the pace, the open 3 pointers, the constant passing of the ball, we almost looked like the warriors with our fluidity. Yurt grabbing rebounds like a madman. I believe when Spo was forced to play out of his sets, we looked better. As soon as Jimmy and Bam came back we reverted to our ugly offense, isolation plays at the end of the shot clock, same movie as last night vs Chicago.
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Post#516 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:38 pm

MHeat0279 wrote:Have you ever asked yourself the question why did we look so fluid playing when our main guys were injured last year? the pace, the open 3 pointers, the constant passing of the ball, we almost looked like the warriors with our fluidity. Yurt grabbing rebounds like a madman. I believe when Spo was forced to play out of his sets, we looked better. As soon as Jimmy and Bam came back we reverted to our ugly offense, isolation plays at the end of the shot clock, same movie as last night vs Chicago.


You’re looking at the wrong side of the court. Obviously we could’ve been better offensively but we gave up 116 points on our home court to a team that was missing an all star scorer and their starting Pg. Hell that’s 2 of their top 4 scorers and they still smoked us and these are long term issues, not just 1 fluke game type stuff. Lowry will continue to be ass and from what we’ve seen the defense is going to continue to be horrible and we’re smaller than ever right now.
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#517 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:42 pm

I knew we’d have major issues when we were watching literally every other competitor in our conference make multiple moves to improve their team and we decided to do nothing. “inTeRNal gRoWTh!!” That’s nice and all but it’s only going to get you so far, if your team can’t rebound then it can’t rebound, if it can’t defend then it can’t defend, if they’re small then they’re small, etc. Those are deeper issues and they’re going to keep coming up game after game until we make some moves.

I let myself get blinded to all This the last month or 2 to try and have an optimistic outlook on the team after we struck out on every big name player that wanted to be here this summer but it’s clear as day now
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Post#518 » by dolphinatik » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:43 pm

Lol Mheat... this has happened quite a few times. We look best with no stars and playing outside our normal sets. Anyway this game was baffling. Herro looked like he was about to drop 40 easy then did nothing in the 2nd 1/2. We would permanently glue guys to the bench for missing a many bunnies as bam missed last night. Dedmon surprised me playing well. Cairn was ok. We have absolutely no help d at the rim.

Would like to see cain and finally Idc idc idc but I'd love to see Whiteside on this team. His attitude might have been entitled but he wasn't bad on the court at all. Let bam play the 4 we would be perfect.
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#519 » by al bondiga » Thu Oct 20, 2022 2:48 pm

ShulaDon92 wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Lowry has 5 more games to change my mind about taking Twix up on that Westbrook trade


Westbrook for Lowry and Duncan seems appealing from an eye test standpoint in this system.

Spo needs all 3d, two way guys

If Lowry's washed, why not?
people have to take into consideration that Westbrook is the best kept Secret at the power forward position in the NBA :o
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Re: NBA 2022-23 Season Opener! Miami vs Chicago. 730 PM EST. 

Post#520 » by SA37 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:32 pm

abark wrote:
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Kobewade11 wrote:Lowry has 5 more games to change my mind about taking Twix up on that Westbrook trade


Westbrook for Lowry and Duncan seems appealing from an eye test standpoint in this system.

Spo needs all 3d, two way guys

If Lowry's washed, why not?

You’re eyes are deceiving u if u think Westbrook isn’t terrible. He can put up stats but he’s horribly inefficient and takes away possessions from better players. Lowry sucks but he doesn’t try to do much.

Every player in that trade is trash. The only benefit is that Westbrook’s contract is expiring (which is the biggest positive of any part of the trade). I’m not saying we’ll win anything if we don’t make that move, but we’re definitely doing nothing this year if Westbrook is the PG.


I'd eat a year of Westbrook to get out of Duncan and Lowry's deals if it were vital to getting Miami's finances in order so that re-signing Vincent, Strus, and potentially Oladipo wouldn't be an issue.

Miami has found ways to extract value from seemingly hopeless cases, so it would be an "expect the worst, hope for the best" scenario. Worst case, if Westbrook becomes an issue, you can just have him stay away from the team.

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