NBA 2022-23 Regular Season Thread Volume 1

[RexBoyWonder]

and if we don't find any good trades out there, we might as well go for a quick re-tool.

Make the Westbrook deal, get rid of fat Lowry and Duncan, try again next year after we get a top 10 pick.

Rest Jimmy and Bam, give Omer, Jovic, Herro get a ton of reps.

This team with no trades isn't getting passed the second round.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

and if we don't find any good trades out there, we might as well go for a quick re-tool.

Make the Westbrook deal, get rid of fat Lowry and Duncan, try again next year after we get a top 10 pick.

Rest Jimmy and Bam, give Omer, Jovic, Herro get a ton of reps.

This team with no trades isn't getting passed the second round.

Honestly they’re not getting passed the 1st round. If we win our play in matchup we’ll be facing the Bucks or Celtics in the first round and it’s a wrap

[al bondiga]

and if we don't find any good trades out there, we might as well go for a quick re-tool.

Make the Westbrook deal, get rid of fat Lowry and Duncan, try again next year after we get a top 10 pick.

Rest Jimmy and Bam, give Omer, Jovic, Herro get a ton of reps.

This team with no trades isn't getting passed the second round.

This ^

I'm all in in the Westbrook deal even though I have never liked him at all

I like it, Jimmy's attitude... it won't happen as currently constructed, but it will

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Now trade Kyrie for Westbrook and a 1st and trade us KD and Royce. Clean house and start over.

[ShulaDon92]

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Now trade Kyrie for Westbrook and a 1st and trade us KD and Royce. Clean house and start over.

They never should have canned DAntoni

[contract]

What freedom exactly? Herro averages just 1.6% FGA more than Jimmy's 14.0 FGA who's 2nd in attempts. Of 7gm's Herro has just 3 gm's where he lead in attempts. In that aspect the criticism isn't justified if the argument is he doesn't have team in mind & hijacking the offense.....If Spo's words were towards Herro that is.

Herro shouldn't be leading this team in attempts by any margin. Herro is not our best player nor is he our best offensive player. He's not second best either.

Well that's just not true. Bam and Jimmy occupy the same area on the court. You clog the paint and their offense evaporates.

Both guys have played without Herro before. I'd say that playing with Herro is stifling their offense.

The danger with allowing inefficient scorers to shoot at will is that they start believing they are stars. Some fans start to believe it too.

[contract]

Lowry move was a big L for us. Huge L.

We overpaid in money per year, also gave him too may years, and also traded Precious and Dragic for this over the hill fat washed primadonna. Duncan sucks too, but at least he's trying his best and looks invested.


Move those 2 ASAP and hope we can add enough around Jimmy/Bam/Herro.

The extra year for Lowry was the real killer.

[KingDavid]

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Now trade Kyrie for Westbrook and a 1st and trade us KD and Royce. Clean house and start over.

Not if they land Ime Udoka. They're gonna make noise with a competent head coach. Trouble aside.

[IceColdCubano]

Sweet and sour dirty hairy nuggets dipped in bbq sauce.***
I am travelling this week here in Seattle, and flying tonight to Oakland CA, but I got a not so good phone call from my boy with some upsetting news.

Miami is gonna try a give it a go with Yurt hopefully next week to get him on the floor with the trainers and start some drills, if that ankle does not feel good after a few hard work outs they will be recommending surgery. They were hoping not to be here but it seems like its not healing correctly or too weak the way its currently stands. This could ultimately end up being a progressively bad over time and keep him off the floor in the coming years if its not fixed.

Dipo may not be ready until after christmas with rumblings of maybe even longer. There is substantial swelling on his other knee and they are afraid if they push Dipo to early it could lead to a tear. His muscles have gotten stronger through the off season from all the strength training and repetitive on court work but he does have an issue with his tendons/cartilage degrading which they are afraid another tear could be imminent with some of the swelling he keeps getting on his other knee during the offseason and the first game in preseason. Dipo could find himself in retirement by the end of the year, and right now he is trying to stay positive but the dude is in a bad place with more degenerative issues continuing to keep him off the basketball floor.

Lowry & Duncan have been shopped around in some trade scenarios with Miami trying to re-inforce their Front court rotations, seeing as Yurt may be out for longer than expected. There is zero market for them right now, they are being told that Lowry would be really hard to move this year if at all. With Duncan being able to be moved but will need sweeteners tied to him as far as picks, Miami does not want to give up any picks in a trade involving him.

Pat and the staff were talking about the current team would be given a buffer of 20 games before they decide to go and use assets to improve the team if they deem it necessary for playoff contention. Right now however there is still a believe its a matter of the team getting used to the starting lineup changes and some role players being able to get back into a groove. The way the team started does have everyone concerned however that we may not be able to get out of a 8-10 plus game under .500 type of hole if they get to that point in which case they may forgo the whole upgrade and decide to trade away some key pieces for next year free agency reset.

The Spo comment about agendas not being team centric was directed at Herro because of a comment Herro made during a timeout in the 4th quarter loss to the Kings. Where he disregard a play call twice to go in for a score since he felt certain players were not playing to par. The issue here is that Miami is trying to get the team to scheme were everyone is sharing the ball in order to get players showcased as they know a trade is needed to upgrade and Pat came down on Spo to scheme where we can showcase some of the players for possible trades. Unfortunately Herro apparently patience was wearing thin with schemes that pose him as a stand still 3pt shooter in order to help others get into their prefered play calls ie "Lowry, Struss, Jimmy". Spo also did not like that Herro's comments also had Bam jump in and agree kinda taking away from the team first mentality they want to have as a whole. The coaching staff wants to nip this in the butt quickly. They cannot have the team mentality feel like the current roster is not enough, they need to believe it can. Currently there are players starting to feel like we may have peaked and are hitting the wall of improvements vs talent against teams that did go out and improve with more talent.

[heatwillbeback]

Damn ICC. That’s a whole lot of sad in that post.

[IceColdCubano]

Damn ICC. That’s a whole lot of sad in that post.

I know brother, punch in the gut its worse than what were being told of the issues behind the scenes.

[wadenation305]

Send Lowry home. Trade everyone. Let Herro and Bam play their hearts out for 40+ mins a night and see if with enough burn they get stronger forged in fire. Blow it all up. Lowry is a dud. Dipo I feel bad for but is still a big dud. Gabe regressed. Duncan can't do the one thing that got him in the NBA. Omer is not going to be ready to go this season. And still wouldn't be the answer to our woes anyways.

And hell yea I'd be pissed if we're trying to showcase some trash that is not performing up to par to try to trade them when I have the hot hand. It's stealth tanking. Remove the stealth and just flat out tank. If you're going to do it. At least do it right and go all out. TRADE EVERY ONE.

[ShulaDon92]

Sweet and sour dirty hairy nuggets dipped in bbq sauce.***
I am travelling this week here in Seattle, and flying tonight to Oakland CA, but I got a not so good phone call from my boy with some upsetting news.

Miami is gonna try a give it a go with Yurt hopefully next week to get him on the floor with the trainers and start some drills, if that ankle does not feel good after a few hard work outs they will be recommending surgery. They were hoping not to be here but it seems like its not healing correctly or too weak the way its currently stands. This could ultimately end up being a progressively bad over time and keep him off the floor in the coming years if its not fixed.

Dipo may not be ready until after christmas with rumblings of maybe even longer. There is substantial swelling on his other knee and they are afraid if they push Dipo to early it could lead to a tear. His muscles have gotten stronger through the off season from all the strength training and repetitive on court work but he does have an issue with his tendons/cartilage degrading which they are afraid another tear could be imminent with some of the swelling he keeps getting on his other knee during the offseason and the first game in preseason. Dipo could find himself in retirement by the end of the year, and right now he is trying to stay positive but the dude is in a bad place with more degenerative issues continuing to keep him off the basketball floor.

Lowry & Duncan have been shopped around in some trade scenarios with Miami trying to re-inforce their Front court rotations, seeing as Yurt may be out for longer than expected. There is zero market for them right now, they are being told that Lowry would be really hard to move this year if at all. With Duncan being able to be moved but will need sweeteners tied to him as far as picks, Miami does not want to give up any picks in a trade involving him.

Pat and the staff were talking about the current team would be given a buffer of 20 games before they decide to go and use assets to improve the team if they deem it necessary for playoff contention. Right now however there is still a believe its a matter of the team getting used to the starting lineup changes and some role players being able to get back into a groove. The way the team started does have everyone concerned however that we may not be able to get out of a 8-10 plus game under .500 type of hole if they get to that point in which case they may forgo the whole upgrade and decide to trade away some key pieces for next year free agency reset.

The Spo comment about agendas not being team centric was directed at Herro because of a comment Herro made during a timeout in the 4th quarter loss to the Kings. Where he disregard a play call twice to go in for a score since he felt certain players were not playing to par. The issue here is that Miami is trying to get the team to scheme were everyone is sharing the ball in order to get players showcased as they know a trade is needed to upgrade and Pat came down on Spo to scheme where we can showcase some of the players for possible trades. Unfortunately Herro apparently patience was wearing thin with schemes that pose him as a stand still 3pt shooter in order to help others get into their prefered play calls ie "Lowry, Struss, Jimmy". Spo also did not like that Herro's comments also had Bam jump in and agree kinda taking away from the team first mentality they want to have as a whole. The coaching staff wants to nip this in the butt quickly. They cannot have the team mentality feel like the current roster is not enough, they need to believe it can. Currently there are players starting to feel like we may have peaked and are hitting the wall of improvements vs talent against teams that did go out and improve with more talent.

We have lost a lot of depth. For the way we are presently constructed this could be a death knell.

If that's the case and we are bottoming out by the deadline I think you move Butler to rebuild with the young core...

Or you trade everyone not named Bam or Butler for a third cog.

Im not sure what is more realistic.

[dolphinatik]

That part about herro conflicting with our schemes makes sense. Too often he was cooking to start a game with zero to nothing in the second half. It was really obvious we were to doing everything we could do to win games. So our no sense of urgency in games is deliberate? As a fan I'm passed. Bam coasting is just him being a company man? No wonder we always look good with all the scrubs in and no "plan" if the plan for the main guys is to take turns showcasing a scheme instead of making the play. Guess we will see what happens tonight. Disturbing report indeed.

[ShulaDon92]

The Rick Ross intro makes so much more sense when you're trotting out of the fog machine:

Durant
Butler
Bam

Boom!

[Hallstar]

Herro shouldn't be leading this team in attempts by any margin. Herro is not our best player nor is he our best offensive player. He's not second best either.

Well that's just not true. Bam and Jimmy occupy the same area on the court. You clog the paint and their offense evaporates.

Both guys have played without Herro before. I'd say that playing with Herro is stifling their offense.

The danger with allowing inefficient scorers to shoot at will is that they start believing they are stars. Some fans start to believe it too.

Who is the inefficient scorer though? That talking point seriously needs to be killed when its just straight not factual. And they're scoring the same they were before(Jimmy even better). Problem is we have NO big man depth and Oladipo was supposed to be holding down the bench after his "great offseason" and he's been MIA.

[twix2500]

Sweet and sour dirty hairy nuggets dipped in bbq sauce.***
I am travelling this week here in Seattle, and flying tonight to Oakland CA, but I got a not so good phone call from my boy with some upsetting news.

Miami is gonna try a give it a go with Yurt hopefully next week to get him on the floor with the trainers and start some drills, if that ankle does not feel good after a few hard work outs they will be recommending surgery. They were hoping not to be here but it seems like its not healing correctly or too weak the way its currently stands. This could ultimately end up being a progressively bad over time and keep him off the floor in the coming years if its not fixed.

Dipo may not be ready until after christmas with rumblings of maybe even longer. There is substantial swelling on his other knee and they are afraid if they push Dipo to early it could lead to a tear. His muscles have gotten stronger through the off season from all the strength training and repetitive on court work but he does have an issue with his tendons/cartilage degrading which they are afraid another tear could be imminent with some of the swelling he keeps getting on his other knee during the offseason and the first game in preseason. Dipo could find himself in retirement by the end of the year, and right now he is trying to stay positive but the dude is in a bad place with more degenerative issues continuing to keep him off the basketball floor.

Lowry & Duncan have been shopped around in some trade scenarios with Miami trying to re-inforce their Front court rotations, seeing as Yurt may be out for longer than expected. There is zero market for them right now, they are being told that Lowry would be really hard to move this year if at all. With Duncan being able to be moved but will need sweeteners tied to him as far as picks, Miami does not want to give up any picks in a trade involving him.

Pat and the staff were talking about the current team would be given a buffer of 20 games before they decide to go and use assets to improve the team if they deem it necessary for playoff contention. Right now however there is still a believe its a matter of the team getting used to the starting lineup changes and some role players being able to get back into a groove. The way the team started does have everyone concerned however that we may not be able to get out of a 8-10 plus game under .500 type of hole if they get to that point in which case they may forgo the whole upgrade and decide to trade away some key pieces for next year free agency reset.

The Spo comment about agendas not being team centric was directed at Herro because of a comment Herro made during a timeout in the 4th quarter loss to the Kings. Where he disregard a play call twice to go in for a score since he felt certain players were not playing to par. The issue here is that Miami is trying to get the team to scheme were everyone is sharing the ball in order to get players showcased as they know a trade is needed to upgrade and Pat came down on Spo to scheme where we can showcase some of the players for possible trades. Unfortunately Herro apparently patience was wearing thin with schemes that pose him as a stand still 3pt shooter in order to help others get into their prefered play calls ie "Lowry, Struss, Jimmy". Spo also did not like that Herro's comments also had Bam jump in and agree kinda taking away from the team first mentality they want to have as a whole. The coaching staff wants to nip this in the butt quickly. They cannot have the team mentality feel like the current roster is not enough, they need to believe it can. Currently there are players starting to feel like we may have peaked and are hitting the wall of improvements vs talent against teams that did go out and improve with more talent.

Everything I warned you about all summer. Herro having to sacrifice as a spot up shooter in order to play in the starting lineup. Herro is resisting the idea, and becoming a Lance Stevenson and not running plays.

Herro is not talented enough to carry a team like a Durant or even a Mitchell he has to learn when to pick n choose to be aggressive and be complementary. This is the issue Chris Bosh had ad being the 3rd guy. In Herro case he is part of a foursome with Lowry.

The Oladipo news is a huge crusher because he would of been a perfect player next to Herro at point replacing Lowry. Since the Heat point guard situation is looking bad. Resolving the starting point guard role needs to take priority over the powerforward needs.

Yurt news is crushing as well.

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[Hallstar]

Sweet and sour dirty hairy nuggets dipped in bbq sauce.***
I am travelling this week here in Seattle, and flying tonight to Oakland CA, but I got a not so good phone call from my boy with some upsetting news.

Miami is gonna try a give it a go with Yurt hopefully next week to get him on the floor with the trainers and start some drills, if that ankle does not feel good after a few hard work outs they will be recommending surgery. They were hoping not to be here but it seems like its not healing correctly or too weak the way its currently stands. This could ultimately end up being a progressively bad over time and keep him off the floor in the coming years if its not fixed.

Dipo may not be ready until after christmas with rumblings of maybe even longer. There is substantial swelling on his other knee and they are afraid if they push Dipo to early it could lead to a tear. His muscles have gotten stronger through the off season from all the strength training and repetitive on court work but he does have an issue with his tendons/cartilage degrading which they are afraid another tear could be imminent with some of the swelling he keeps getting on his other knee during the offseason and the first game in preseason. Dipo could find himself in retirement by the end of the year, and right now he is trying to stay positive but the dude is in a bad place with more degenerative issues continuing to keep him off the basketball floor.

Lowry & Duncan have been shopped around in some trade scenarios with Miami trying to re-inforce their Front court rotations, seeing as Yurt may be out for longer than expected. There is zero market for them right now, they are being told that Lowry would be really hard to move this year if at all. With Duncan being able to be moved but will need sweeteners tied to him as far as picks, Miami does not want to give up any picks in a trade involving him.

Pat and the staff were talking about the current team would be given a buffer of 20 games before they decide to go and use assets to improve the team if they deem it necessary for playoff contention. Right now however there is still a believe its a matter of the team getting used to the starting lineup changes and some role players being able to get back into a groove. The way the team started does have everyone concerned however that we may not be able to get out of a 8-10 plus game under .500 type of hole if they get to that point in which case they may forgo the whole upgrade and decide to trade away some key pieces for next year free agency reset.

The Spo comment about agendas not being team centric was directed at Herro because of a comment Herro made during a timeout in the 4th quarter loss to the Kings. Where he disregard a play call twice to go in for a score since he felt certain players were not playing to par. The issue here is that Miami is trying to get the team to scheme were everyone is sharing the ball in order to get players showcased as they know a trade is needed to upgrade and Pat came down on Spo to scheme where we can showcase some of the players for possible trades. Unfortunately Herro apparently patience was wearing thin with schemes that pose him as a stand still 3pt shooter in order to help others get into their prefered play calls ie "Lowry, Struss, Jimmy". Spo also did not like that Herro's comments also had Bam jump in and agree kinda taking away from the team first mentality they want to have as a whole. The coaching staff wants to nip this in the butt quickly. They cannot have the team mentality feel like the current roster is not enough, they need to believe it can. Currently there are players starting to feel like we may have peaked and are hitting the wall of improvements vs talent against teams that did go out and improve with more talent.

Lmfao, if this is true, I'm with Herro and Bam 10000%.

If we're down 20 at a half, your scheme ain't working chief

We here to showcase players or win games?

[MettaWorldPanda]

Riley has lost his way putting together this terrible roster and thinking 20 games in is going to do the trick. His value of Duncan is also completely senile. Of course it's going to take a pick to ship him out but he's so stubborn he doesn't want to admit that signing him was a mistake and nobody in the NBA is going to want some flash in the pan we decided to over pay without compensation. The only solace is that we have our pick this year but in the process we have way too many good players in the building and zero effort from the from office to fix the glaring weakness and only blaming the players is a good way to destroy any good culture equity that's been built up. I feel really bad for some of the players on this team and the immense pressure the front office is putting on them to overcome there mishaps. Riley for one who has always had a great history of building his teams around solid rebounding and defensive PF's succumbed to the pressure of going smaller and thinking it was a great idea to bring back Caleb Martin as a PF. Knowing you already had a undersized Center. Just doesn't make any sense at all.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

In Bam we trust. He needs 30 shots tonight