Kyrie donates $500K to organizations that fight hate. Adam Silver disappointed by Kyrie apology and plans to meet him

[Stalwart]

It shouldn't be ok to slander other posters like this

Its slander to call out someone who insinuates that the Jews rule the world?

Or is there some sort of mental gymnastics you would like to exhibit to try and argue that wasnt what that quote was insinuating?

Its slander to call out someone who insinuates that the Jews(who are impersonating the actual jews and didn't have 6 million of their population murdered) rule the world?

Iv think you're putting words in his mouth lol

[Grubie024]

It looks like the league is going to force Kyrie to use the word sorry or they may end up suspending him indefinitely. I can see it already; it's sad what this whole thing has come to. NBA is so difficult to watch now.

All while they turn a blind eye to the crimes against humanity in their cash cow friend China.

[shakes0]

“If you want to know you rules over you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize”


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Its astounding and depressing how many anti-Semites are on this website. This really is depressing.

It shouldn't be ok to slander other posters like this

this HAS to be sarcastic!

Guy gets called out for being an antisemite and you respond by saying it's not ok to call someone out for being an anti-semite.


This basically sums up how Jews are regarded here at RGM.

[Duffman100]

I think we view the definition of freedom of speech a little differently, that's the disconnect. Yours aligns with the dictionary definition. You're saying he's able to say what he wants - yes his tongue wasn't plucked out and he wasn't imprisoned before he could say another word.

I'm saying he's not really that free because the price he's paying (future money and opportunities are greatly diminished and he's being publicly destroyed).


It really just boils down to the fact that I don't agree with him being destroyed for sharing a documentary. The contents of it seem pretty bad but this is highly subjective stuff. I think people need to chill out and be more forgiving.

So you're saying that people should have the freedom to say whatever they want but suffer no potential societal consequences for what they say?

I basically addressed that with the final paragraph of my post. No, I don't think it should be a free for all but I think the threshold for outrage and wanting to destroy someone's life is a little low. I believe in freedom of speech more than most I guess. I'm not anti-semitic and I don't promote the documentary.

But that's not really addressing the question at all...and again that's not freedom of speech.

If we want to start having a nuanced conversation about the infiltration of government into social media, the impact that has on Free Speech. And the fact that government punishment or control over free speech is being somewhat proxied through these mediums cool.

But the outrage and repercussions has and always will be societies to inflict and or not. You may not like the recent trend of severity but that isn't a 'free speech' issue.

[Zeno]

Its slander to call out someone who insinuates that the Jews rule the world?

Or is there some sort of mental gymnastics you would like to exhibit to try and argue that wasnt what that quote was insinuating?

Its slander to call out someone who insinuates that the Jews(who are impersonating the actual jews and didn't have 6 million of their population murdered) rule the world?

Iv think you're putting words in his mouth lol

He linked a movie that states those things

[infinite11285]

To me... his freedom of speech is being restricted for the simple fact that he is being pretty significantly punished.
One can debate what qualifies as restricting freedom of speech - is it imprisonment or de-platforming or something else. What matters IMO is that he's being significantly punished for his speech.
I'm not even condoning or promoting the content or message of the documentary but man... people are crucifying him. I think we take our freedoms for granted sometimes.

Exactly who is restricting his speech? His Twitter account is still up; he wasn't silenced by any entity, nor is he banned from speaking to the media.

It's mindboggling to me that we live in an era where people feel attacked if they’re held accountable for their actions.

Kyrie explained himself and stressed that he wasn't promoting hate or antisemitism. He just posted a link to an interesting documentary. He then stayed quiet and tried to move on. But then the "sports media" went on a witch hunt and whipped up a big controversy. They trashed Kyrie, the Brooklyn Nets, Adam Silver, and the NBA and pressured them to "do something". It got so bad that Kyrie and the Nets thought it was worth ONE MILLION DOLLARS to try and appease the crazed mob. Did it work? Nope. You guys are still trashing him.

And you're doing all this without being able to even explain what was antisemitic about the film or what Kyrie said. You are all being gaslit and radicalized.

Interesting documentary? Have you seen it? I've seen the documentary, and it's very extreme. I'm not going to go in-depth about the film's significant antisemitism rooted in conspiracy and lies, but they can easily be looked up for those who are curious.

And Kyrie didn't simply post a tweet, either. He defended and endorsed the film's points in his responses to the media and actually believes he's a Black Hebrew Israelite ("How can I be antisemitic when I know where I come from?"). Defiantly leaving his post up is a clear sign of his public endorsement.

Back in 2016, Kyrie claimed to be a descendant of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe. Now, he's a Black Hebrew Israelite that posts conspiratorial racist propaganda on social media and feigns ignorance when he's confronted with consequences from his corporate employer, all the while proclaiming he's a "beacon of light" that "respects all life."

He's a narcissist and a hypocrite. His actions are truly indefensible.

[Snakebites]

Anyone still “disappointed” in Kyrie hasn’t been paying attention.

[Duffman100]

Anyone still “disappointed” in Kyrie hasn’t been paying attention.

100%. I'm not disappointed, I want him gone and out of the league. I'm tired of his ****.

[Grubie024]

So you're saying that people should have the freedom to say whatever they want but suffer no potential societal consequences for what they say?

I basically addressed that with the final paragraph of my post. No, I don't think it should be a free for all but I think the threshold for outrage and wanting to destroy someone's life is a little low. I believe in freedom of speech more than most I guess. I'm not anti-semitic and I don't promote the documentary.

But that's not really addressing the question at all...and again that's not freedom of speech.

If we want to start having a nuanced conversation about the infiltration of government into social media, the impact that has on Free Speech. And the fact that government punishment or control over free speech is being somewhat proxied through these mediums cool.

But the outrage and repercussions has and always will be societies to inflict and or not. You may not like the recent trend of severity but that isn't a 'free speech' issue.

These trends you describe... See how they shape speech over time if they continue. Tell me how free things are then. It's semantics. The real important thing is supressing speech, regardless of the means.

[shakes0]

It shouldn't be ok to slander other posters like this

Its slander to call out someone who insinuates that the Jews rule the world?

Its slander to call them antisemitic when he said nothing racist or hateful, yes. Its actually reprehensible to do that to somebody. But you guys are so radicalized you cant see it.

Or is there some sort of mental gymnastics you would like to exhibit to try and argue that wasnt what that quote was insinuating?

It doesn't matter what he meant. You don't know know what hev thinks or how he feels aout Jewish people.You are wrong to slander him that way.

you're obviously an anti-semite. Only needed to read your last 3 posts to figure that out. I'll add you to the list. Don't worry, you'll have lots of company there.

[Mickey8]

It looks like the league is going to force Kyrie to use the word sorry or they may end up suspending him indefinitely. I can see it already; it's sad what this whole thing has come to. NBA is so difficult to watch now.

All while they turn a blind eye to the crimes against humanity in their cash cow friend China.

When did China become the part of the US??? You don't have a clue whats going inside the China beside what mainstream media tells you USA can't sort its own social issues . Stop bringing China's name until you clean your own yard.

[Duffman100]

I basically addressed that with the final paragraph of my post. No, I don't think it should be a free for all but I think the threshold for outrage and wanting to destroy someone's life is a little low. I believe in freedom of speech more than most I guess. I'm not anti-semitic and I don't promote the documentary.

But that's not really addressing the question at all...and again that's not freedom of speech.

If we want to start having a nuanced conversation about the infiltration of government into social media, the impact that has on Free Speech. And the fact that government punishment or control over free speech is being somewhat proxied through these mediums cool.

But the outrage and repercussions has and always will be societies to inflict and or not. You may not like the recent trend of severity but that isn't a 'free speech' issue.

These trends you describe... See how they shape speech over time if they continue. Tell me how free things are then. It's semantics. The real important thing is supressing speech, regardless of the means.

But again, that is society. People would throw tomatoes at people and ban them from public squares for saying things they didn't like.

It's not semantics, there's a very clear different.

Government suppression of Free Speech.
Societal disagreement with Speech.

That isn't semantics.

[ReddoverKobe]

Its astounding and depressing how many anti-Semites are on this website. This really is depressing.

It shouldn't be ok to slander other posters like this

this HAS to be sarcastic!

Guy gets called out for being an antisemite and you respond by saying it's not ok to call someone out for being an anti-semite.


This basically sums up how Jews are regarded here at RGM.

Dont go to youtube. I made the mistake clicking on a video "discussing" Kyrie and that was enough of that for a while.

[PaulieWal]

Read on Twitter

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I can actually slight relate. Have a friend who used to be just 'normal' and the last 3 years has gone full into the everything is a conspiracy hole, like extreme, extreme right wing. He's also been in the hole of just YouTube and social media. I don't do it anymore but initially I would ask him to send me his sources and he would send me obscure sites or "couple of people saying this happened" (Facebook posts etc or random social media clips). When I'd poke holes in the source all he'd say is "You don't get it" or just stop talking.

It's very sad - we used to be best friends at one point and now we barely talk.

[Frank Dux]

“If you want to know you rules over you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize”


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You really thought it was a good idea to quote Kevin Strom. A neo nazi, and white nationalist. Some of you are losing your damn minds.

[Grubie024]

But that's not really addressing the question at all...and again that's not freedom of speech.

If we want to start having a nuanced conversation about the infiltration of government into social media, the impact that has on Free Speech. And the fact that government punishment or control over free speech is being somewhat proxied through these mediums cool.

But the outrage and repercussions has and always will be societies to inflict and or not. You may not like the recent trend of severity but that isn't a 'free speech' issue.

These trends you describe... See how they shape speech over time if they continue. Tell me how free things are then. It's semantics. The real important thing is supressing speech, regardless of the means.

But again, that is society. People would throw tomatoes at people and ban them from public squares for saying things they didn't like.

It's not semantics, there's a very clear different.

Government suppression of Free Speech.
Societal disagreement with Speech.

That isn't semantics.

Sure looks like semantics to me.
Ok then, this situation smacks of Societal disagreement with Speech, not to be confused with Government supression of free speech.
Now that that's established, I am concerned about the attacks on Speech (general, not to be confused with Government-sponsored suppression of Free Speech).

[Stalwart]

Exactly who is restricting his speech? His Twitter account is still up; he wasn't silenced by any entity, nor is he banned from speaking to the media.

It's mindboggling to me that we live in an era where people feel attacked if they’re held accountable for their actions.

Kyrie explained himself and stressed that he wasn't promoting hate or antisemitism. He just posted a link to an interesting documentary. He then stayed quiet and tried to move on. But then the "sports media" went on a witch hunt and whipped up a big controversy. They trashed Kyrie, the Brooklyn Nets, Adam Silver, and the NBA and pressured them to "do something". It got so bad that Kyrie and the Nets thought it was worth ONE MILLION DOLLARS to try and appease the crazed mob. Did it work? Nope. You guys are still trashing him.

And you're doing all this without being able to even explain what was antisemitic about the film or what Kyrie said. You are all being gaslit and radicalized.

You repeat this in every thread. This movie contains the negation of the Holocaust. If this is not anti-semitic for you, then I have no idea what you consider as anti-semitic.

I consider anti-semitism to be hatred and racism against Semetic people. I don't view controversial and incorrect takes on history to be antisemitic. That's a huge and damgerous leap to just equate holocaust denial with antisemitism. Its dehumanizing to label someone an anti-semite. I think there should be a much higher threshold for such an accusation.

There are documentaries, books, videos, lectures, and theories that deny aspects of the transatlantic slave trade, for example. There are people that claim the whole thing was made up or exaggerated. I don't see this and automatically call them racists. That would be silly. I first consider their point of view based on the information. I then dismiss it or accept it and move on. I don't understand.

[Duffman100]

These trends you describe... See how they shape speech over time if they continue. Tell me how free things are then. It's semantics. The real important thing is supressing speech, regardless of the means.

But again, that is society. People would throw tomatoes at people and ban them from public squares for saying things they didn't like.

It's not semantics, there's a very clear different.

Government suppression of Free Speech.
Societal disagreement with Speech.

That isn't semantics.

Sure looks like semantics to me.
Ok then, this situation smacks of Societal disagreement with Speech, not to be confused with Government supression of free speech.
Now that that's established, I am concerned about the attacks on Speech (general, not to be confused with Government-sponsored Free Speech).

Well you're wrong, it isn't semantics.

When you invoke a declaration of "He doesn't have Free Speech". The term "Free Speech" holds 100s if not 1000s of years of back history. Monarchies, churches, etc. All using tactics to suppress ideas that could shake or alter the foundation on which their power lies. Hence why one of the core foundations of the United States is based on Free Speech.

Freedom of societal impact or repercussions is an entirely different story. If society doesn't like what you have to say and you lose out financially because of it... well... tough? You had the freedom to say what you said without being imprisoned or executed. That's all we can really ask for.

[xAIRNESSx]

Any apology from the NBA on directly doing business with the CCP, a regime known for it's harsh treatment and lack of human rights? Why is Silver so quiet about the issue?
Why does the NBA continue to play music from artists that endorse violence against women, homosexuals and other protected groups?

Surely, if Kyrie liking a video that is critical of Jewish people is some form of hate speech and needs to be cracked down on, the NBA should eradicate its support for recording artists that support violence and criminality against minority groups?

NBA be a hypocrite and I shant be listening to Silver or his minions opinions on hate speech and human rights.

I see you have a case of Whataboutism

It’s a pretty bad false equivalency too. We all buy goods that have been produced in China but only the NBA and LeBron are somehow terrible. Criticize the government for allowing trade with the country if anything.

[BlazersBroncos]

Kyrie explained himself and stressed that he wasn't promoting hate or antisemitism. He just posted a link to an interesting documentary. He then stayed quiet and tried to move on. But then the "sports media" went on a witch hunt and whipped up a big controversy. They trashed Kyrie, the Brooklyn Nets, Adam Silver, and the NBA and pressured them to "do something". It got so bad that Kyrie and the Nets thought it was worth ONE MILLION DOLLARS to try and appease the crazed mob. Did it work? Nope. You guys are still trashing him.

And you're doing all this without being able to even explain what was antisemitic about the film or what Kyrie said. You are all being gaslit and radicalized.

You repeat this in every thread. This movie contains the negation of the Holocaust. If this is not anti-semitic for you, then I have no idea what you consider as anti-semitic.

I consider anti-semitism to be hatred and racism against Semetic people. I don't view controversial and incorrect takes on history to be antisemitic. That's a huge and damgerous leap to just equate holocaust denial with antisemitism.

There are documentaries, books, videos, lectures, and theories that deny aspects of the transatlantic slave trade. Theres people that claim the whole thing was made up or exaggerated. I don't see this and automatically call them racists. That would be silly. I first consider their point of view based on the information. I then dismiss it or accept it and move on. I don't understand.

Anyone that doesnt believe the transatlantic slave trade happened is racist. There is zero other reasoning to have an opinion that false outside mental illness maybe.