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Post#221 » by Murray_17 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:01 am

76ciology wrote:Lol whatever. But its ok and thats just my point. Trez can step out then Reed can protect the paint



I mean, that play ended with an open 3 because Trez cannot guard on the line and gets in between Reed and Shake which forces Thybulle to cover the logical pass to the corner and let his man open. That's because Trez didn't switch when the screen was set and tried to play drop with Reed behind him.

You can play two defensive bigs together, but to do so you need a good defensive big who can also switch going constantly to the 3 point line.

In that play Reed should be on the perimeter and Trez on the paint.
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Post#222 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:02 am



You can also watch this
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Post#223 » by Murray_17 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:09 am

76ciology wrote:

You can also watch this



This is great but:

1- In that system Lopez drops and Giannis switch, there is no rotation of the functions. Having Lopez guard on the 3 point line would make 0 sense
2- The other guys can stay attached to their man precissely because Lopez is a good drop who can get help from Giannis if his man goes to the rim.
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Post#224 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:12 am

Anyway, im expecting us to play more double big going forward. This game should get the ball rolling.

*Crossing my fingers
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Post#225 » by brannigan73 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:26 am

I mean really 31 rebounds from their centers? Did we travel back to the 50's and 60's. 5 rebounds for Tucker and Harris combined lol. This team honeslty is not worth watching. Back to back games for the Hawks and Young dealing with a nagging injury. No problem dispatching our mistmatched goofballs.
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Post#226 » by brannigan73 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:33 am

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Mik317 wrote:Biid is like tops in the league at rolling so far IIRC

don't know why this is the hill you are dying on.. He needs to cut out the Giannis attempts but the PNR pick or pop has been fine...if anything we don't run it enough but thats due to Harden being out more than anything

I wish we'd stop taking the ITS THIS ONE PLAYERS FAULT approach to everything tho. Biid has issues and needs to be better and possibly his ego is in the way...for sure whatever...but I keep saying it basketball is a TEAM sport. You mention Malone (who for one was smaller but more athletic than Biid..) but forget the major part of that was also STOCKTON. I love Maxey to death but he aint Stockton passing wise.

its easy to point at the mini comeback and pair it down to see...we went two bigs which ignores the full context. 1. the Hawks stopped trying lol...hard to turn it back on. but more importantly that lineup had a bunch of long switchable WINGS albeit Walmart Brand versions of them instead of Slow Thick Men (pause). That made it hard to beat the initial POA defender, which allowed Harrell or Reed to come late for blocks or charges. With our normal lineup, players walk past most of our defenders sans Melton..and PJ is too slow and small to help when Biid comes up; Tobias is the woat off ball. And if Biid stays back to prevent that, it open season because more than likely the on ball guy died on a screen and is now chasing. Whereas in years past the on ball guy was Pre Space Jam Ben, who made it hard for guys to waltz into the paint and had the length to recover against smaller ballhandlers. BUT also we'd have Cov, JRich, Jimmy, and Thybulle as the other wing and only JJ or Seth to hide on a corner shooter. In our effort to go away from that, we lost a major aspect of what made those defenses work IMO..because Cov shot bricks, Ben didn't shoot at all, Thybulle is only good in doses, Jrich was a ponzi scheme and Jimmy could not be controlled lol. we should have been finding a Cov who can actually make shots (IMO that was Danny), a Ben who wasnt scared of the lights, A JRich who was as advertised, A Jimmy that didn't hurt fee fees. Instead our GM rebuilt is old team but older and worse lol. After our previous decided that spacing was actually bad. Its **** up that BC might have had the right idea in terms of the actual skillsets needed.

but who gives a **** right? The reality is that we really don't have many options anyway....so i'd rip off the band aid but with no picks, Harden potentially either walking or becoming an albatross...can't even do that lol

i hate it here

If pompey is right that Embiid dosent like harden/enjoy playing with him I think harden most likely will walk.


Maybe the team gets tired occasionally of a guy that is constantly out of shape, has the worst body language of all time when things aren't going his way, is constantly injured, doesn't get back in transition often, and hemorages turnovers? I love Embiid but when is any blame going to come his way? I honestly don't know how he managed a +10 with 7 turnovers and Capela and Okunwe combining to put up Wilt Chamberlain/Bill Russell esque rebound numbers. I know our back up centers were horrible, as usual, but still lol. Maybe he can aim a little annoyance at Mr. 2 rebound 35 milliion dollars per year and not one of the greatest offensive players of all time who the genius coach continues to run into the ground?
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Post#227 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:47 am

Why we got outrebounded?

Because our second best rebounder on the team is James Harden.

James Harden.

Yes. James Harden.
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Post#228 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 4:49 am

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Mik317 wrote:Biid is like tops in the league at rolling so far IIRC

don't know why this is the hill you are dying on.. He needs to cut out the Giannis attempts but the PNR pick or pop has been fine...if anything we don't run it enough but thats due to Harden being out more than anything

I wish we'd stop taking the ITS THIS ONE PLAYERS FAULT approach to everything tho. Biid has issues and needs to be better and possibly his ego is in the way...for sure whatever...but I keep saying it basketball is a TEAM sport. You mention Malone (who for one was smaller but more athletic than Biid..) but forget the major part of that was also STOCKTON. I love Maxey to death but he aint Stockton passing wise.

its easy to point at the mini comeback and pair it down to see...we went two bigs which ignores the full context. 1. the Hawks stopped trying lol...hard to turn it back on. but more importantly that lineup had a bunch of long switchable WINGS albeit Walmart Brand versions of them instead of Slow Thick Men (pause). That made it hard to beat the initial POA defender, which allowed Harrell or Reed to come late for blocks or charges. With our normal lineup, players walk past most of our defenders sans Melton..and PJ is too slow and small to help when Biid comes up; Tobias is the woat off ball. And if Biid stays back to prevent that, it open season because more than likely the on ball guy died on a screen and is now chasing. Whereas in years past the on ball guy was Pre Space Jam Ben, who made it hard for guys to waltz into the paint and had the length to recover against smaller ballhandlers. BUT also we'd have Cov, JRich, Jimmy, and Thybulle as the other wing and only JJ or Seth to hide on a corner shooter. In our effort to go away from that, we lost a major aspect of what made those defenses work IMO..because Cov shot bricks, Ben didn't shoot at all, Thybulle is only good in doses, Jrich was a ponzi scheme and Jimmy could not be controlled lol. we should have been finding a Cov who can actually make shots (IMO that was Danny), a Ben who wasnt scared of the lights, A JRich who was as advertised, A Jimmy that didn't hurt fee fees. Instead our GM rebuilt is old team but older and worse lol. After our previous decided that spacing was actually bad. Its **** up that BC might have had the right idea in terms of the actual skillsets needed.

but who gives a **** right? The reality is that we really don't have many options anyway....so i'd rip off the band aid but with no picks, Harden potentially either walking or becoming an albatross...can't even do that lol

i hate it here

If pompey is right that Embiid dosent like harden/enjoy playing with him I think harden most likely will walk.


Maybe the team gets tired occasionally of a guy that is constantly out of shape, has the worst body language of all time when things aren't going his way, is constantly injured, doesn't get back in transition often, and hemorages turnovers? I love Embiid but when is any blame going to come his way? I honestly don't know how he managed a +10 with 7 turnovers and Capela and Okunwe combining to put up Wilt Chamberlain/Bill Russell esque rebound numbers. I know our back up centers were horrible, as usual, but still lol. Maybe he can aim a little annoyance at Mr. 2 rebound 35 milliion dollars per year and not one of the greatest offensive players of all time who the genius coach continues to run into the ground?


Because the pace is slow and the ball is not moving, so it limits your opportunistic baskets that you need to feed your role players to do their job on defense.

Then you have a defensive gameplan that CLEARLY does not work where you keep giving up easy baskets that is deflating to these multi millionaires.

If you’re not scoring and the defense is worse when you are on the court, you wont be able to earn a hefty contract after your stint is up.

This is why Jazz and Spurs are playing well. They look good when they are playing on the court.
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Post#229 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:16 am

Wait, where did Pompey say Embiid doesn’t like Harden?
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Post#230 » by rocketsfan100 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:17 am

Negrodamus wrote:Wait, where did Pompey say Embiid doesn’t like Harden?

Twitter and Embiid was taking subtle shots at harden saying he likes to initiate the offense from here on.
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Post#231 » by MVP1992 » Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:59 am

Embiid could try doing a decent professionally run military boot camp either pre season or when he's just out of shape and cup of cement for good measure.

Might be a humbling experience and good attitude adjuster.
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Post#232 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:06 am

rocketsfan100 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Wait, where did Pompey say Embiid doesn’t like Harden?

Twitter and Embiid was taking subtle shots at harden saying he likes to initiate the offense from here on.


May i ask for the link with the “initiate the offense”?

Btw, I dont think you can win with Biid initiating the offense.

Ideally, you want Biid to be your go to guy once your primary offense (perimeter player based) gets stalled.
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Post#233 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri Nov 11, 2022 10:51 am

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Post#234 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:32 pm

I honestly don't care about who Embiid would rather play with. He needs to just shut up and make it work.
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Post#235 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:27 pm

Skates wrote:Pompey is as old and tired as Rivers and has never been more than modestly mediocre as a beat writer

The team very badly needs another point guard. I never liked the Maxey as backup PG and starting SG. Another point guard to pair with Melton, plus Harden and Maxey would complete this team. Too many catch and shoot threats on this team being underutilized with only one true point guard on the team.


I've said this since mid summer, that a legit backup PG was a dire need on this roster, as Maxey was clearly not that guy and would never realize his full potential spending time pretending to be a playmaker. How many times must we learn that Shake isn't and never will be that guy? And you're dead on - the C&S guys Morey was so determined to collect are going to waste.
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Post#236 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:09 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I honestly don't care about who Embiid would rather play with. He needs to just shut up and make it work.


The issue isn't Embiid it's Doc and to a lesser extent Morey.

We aren't even putting the best rotations on the court of what we have and while I thought the bench was improved it was obvious to everyone that we needed a playmaking guard.

It's not Embiid job to make this work that is Morey and Docs job. He just needs to go out and ball.
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Post#237 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:11 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Skates wrote:Pompey is as old and tired as Rivers and has never been more than modestly mediocre as a beat writer

The team very badly needs another point guard. I never liked the Maxey as backup PG and starting SG. Another point guard to pair with Melton, plus Harden and Maxey would complete this team. Too many catch and shoot threats on this team being underutilized with only one true point guard on the team.


I've said this since mid summer, that a legit backup PG was a dire need on this roster, as Maxey was clearly not that guy and would never realize his full potential spending time pretending to be a playmaker. How many times must we learn that Shake isn't and never will be that guy? And you're dead on - the C&S guys Morey was so determined to collect are going to waste.


You and me both was on it all offseason it was at the point near the end like just go out and sign Schroeder but this team is really missing someone like Wall who come off the bench and run the offense when Harden is off the court.
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Post#238 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:11 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I honestly don't care about who Embiid would rather play with. He needs to just shut up and make it work.


The issue isn't Embiid it's Doc and to a lesser extent Morey.

We aren't even putting the best rotations on the court of what we have and while I thought the bench was improved it was obvious to everyone that we needed a playmaking guard.

It's not Embiid job to make this work that is Morey and Docs job. He just needs to go out and ball.

Sure, but I also don't care that Embiid wanted to play with Bradley Beal and not James Harden. He needs to shut up and make it work with James. Beal sucks, anyway.
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Post#239 » by spikeslovechild » Fri Nov 11, 2022 2:15 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
spikeslovechild wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I honestly don't care about who Embiid would rather play with. He needs to just shut up and make it work.


The issue isn't Embiid it's Doc and to a lesser extent Morey.

We aren't even putting the best rotations on the court of what we have and while I thought the bench was improved it was obvious to everyone that we needed a playmaking guard.

It's not Embiid job to make this work that is Morey and Docs job. He just needs to go out and ball.

Sure, but I also don't care that Embiid wanted to play with Bradley Beal and not James Harden. He needs to shut up and make it work with James. Beal sucks, anyway.


I don't either but this is what happens when players start to lose confidence in their CS and FO.
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Post#240 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:04 pm

Where is this Beal rumor coming from?

If it’s true, then it could be Biid wanting to revive those DHO plays which Beal is a much better fit than Harden.
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