11/14 - Heat vs Suns - 7:30pm

[al bondiga]

A superstar either has a championship and is the best player on his team consistently during a lot of years or is a superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA... Jimmy has none

If bam doesn't kick it up a notch in the next few years... he will become another JB

[HeatFanLifer]

First legit win of the season. Gj OP.

[Bishop45]

First legit win of the season. Gj OP.

OP’s unstoppable!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

A superstar either has a championship and is the best player on his team consistently during a lot of years or is a superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA... Jimmy has none

If bam doesn't kick it up a notch in the next few years... he will become another JB

Jimmy was the best player in the playoffs last year….

[heatlejuice]

A superstar either has a championship and is the best player on his team consistently during a lot of years or is a superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA... Jimmy has none

If bam doesn't kick it up a notch in the next few years... he will become another JB

Jimmy was the best player in the playoffs last year….

I’m pretty sure playoff Jimmy qualifies as a “superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA” if that’s your logic

[abark]

Franchise has not been fine since after the big 3
Yeah the one shot away from the finals is not a logical argument.

What about two years before when we were actually in the Finals.

This team is currently flawed, but damn we’re spoiled

Bubble you mean? The 3 point shooting aberration we were not able to duplicate since then? Because i do remember being slaughtered rebounding wise when we played the Lakers. By the way same issue ( among others) we still have.

Ugh. This bubble crap…

They disproved the bubble was a fluke by being literally one shot away from getting right back in the championship 2 years later. If you can get that far a 2nd time, the 1st one wasn’t luck bc of “the bubble.” What the hell did the bubble do to help us that it didn’t do for other teams?

If you want to say that team over that span was clearly very good, but not quite good enough to win it all without a situation where a lot of things go their way… ok sure.

But I’m a fan of other pro sports teams (Dolphins, Panthers). And I’ve never gotten a 3 year span as successful as the Heat have just given me from either of them.

That’s bc there’s 30 (or 32 teams). It’s not easy. Go complain to fans of the 12 teams that have never won it all about our last 3 years. That’s almost half the league.

Sorry the Wade/Lebron years spoiled you, but reality is that teams statistically will only win once every 3 decades on average. Why I think u sound ridiculous complaining about the success this team’s had over the past 3 years.

But back to this year’s team. We need a big to play next to Bam. We tried doing what we’re doing this year in 2020 w Ariza/Iggy at PF and it didn’t work. This SG/SF crap at PF kills us. Ideally that big is better than Jae/PJ or we’re probably a pseudo-contender, and a long shot to win it all (even tho it’s possible).

If we can get a move like that done I’m happy w this team’s outlook. But I’m not a fan that expects championships every year and thinks seasons where you lose on the last shot of game 7 of the ECF is a failure.

[contract]

First legit win of the season. Gj OP.

OP’s unstoppable!

OP was AWOL.

Missed the game completely.

I'm glad that you guys were able to carry our Heat to victory.

[contract]

Suns announcers making fun of the Heat, “ the act like they are trying to contest the shot but they’re just not tall enough” and of course the “lol”.
Also “ they get effort rebounds but not real position rebounds, big difference..they’re too small “

Turns out we're bigger than they are.

[al bondiga]

A superstar either has a championship and is the best player on his team consistently during a lot of years or is a superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA... Jimmy has none

If bam doesn't kick it up a notch in the next few years... he will become another JB

Jimmy was the best player in the playoffs last year….

I’m pretty sure playoff Jimmy qualifies as a “superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA” if that’s your logic

Jimmy is a star, there's no question about that, but he's not a superior Unstoppable Force (Kbe was, wade, bron, joker, dokic, etcétera)... almost none could visualize Jimmys kind of playing as a force or as Unstoppable... and that is a superstar

[al bondiga]

But I have to admire this team for having more salt in their balls than I gave them credit for

[IceColdCubano]

But I have to admire this team for having more salt in their balls than I gave them credit for

Theres salt inside balls? News to me! Unless you mean their balls were extra salty, like from the sweat and friction produced in the 4th quarter, then I would agree.....semantics anyways, the real question is how would one test the salt levels wether on or inside the balls....i could think of few ways, just asking for a friend.

[MHeat0279]

Jimmy was the best player in the playoffs last year….

I’m pretty sure playoff Jimmy qualifies as a “superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA” if that’s your logic

Jimmy is a star, there's no question about that, but he's not a superior Unstoppable Force (Kbe was, wade, bron, joker, dokic, etcétera)... almost none could visualize Jimmys kind of playing as a force or as Unstoppable... and that is a superstar

Exactly

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jimmy was the best player in the playoffs last year….

I’m pretty sure playoff Jimmy qualifies as a “superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA” if that’s your logic

Jimmy is a star, there's no question about that, but he's not a superior Unstoppable Force (Kbe was, wade, bron, joker, dokic, etcétera)... almost none could visualize Jimmys kind of playing as a force or as Unstoppable... and that is a superstar

Yes he’s not the 2nd best player ever, a top 10 player ever, or a top 15 player ever. That’s not news to anyone lol but he just had a postseason run that ranks right up there with the greatest in Miami Heat history (Wade, LeBron) so he has shown he can take his game to that level when it matters most. There’s no argument against that.

[MHeat0279]

What about two years before when we were actually in the Finals.

This team is currently flawed, but damn we’re spoiled

Bubble you mean? The 3 point shooting aberration we were not able to duplicate since then? Because i do remember being slaughtered rebounding wise when we played the Lakers. By the way same issue ( among others) we still have.

Ugh. This bubble crap…

They disproved the bubble was a fluke by being literally one shot away from getting right back in the championship 2 years later. If you can get that far a 2nd time, the 1st one wasn’t luck bc of “the bubble.” What the hell did the bubble do to help us that it didn’t do for other teams?

If you want to say that team over that span was clearly very good, but not quite good enough to win it all without a situation where a lot of things go their way… ok sure.

But I’m a fan of other pro sports teams (Dolphins, Panthers). And I’ve never gotten a 3 year span as successful as the Heat have just given me from either of them.

That’s bc there’s 30 (or 32 teams). It’s not easy. Go complain to fans of the 12 teams that have never won it all about our last 3 years. That’s almost half the league.

Sorry the Wade/Lebron years spoiled you, but reality is that teams statistically will only win once every 3 decades on average. Why I think u sound ridiculous complaining about the success this team’s had over the past 3 years.

But back to this year’s team. We need a big to play next to Bam. We tried doing what we’re doing this year in 2020 w Ariza/Iggy at PF and it didn’t work. This SG/SF crap at PF kills us. Ideally that big is better than Jae/PJ or we’re probably a pseudo-contender, and a long shot to win it all (even tho it’s possible).

If we can get a move like that done I’m happy w this team’s outlook. But I’m not a fan that expects championships every year and thinks seasons where you lose on the last shot of game 7 of the ECF is a failure.

Ugh the one shot away from the finals crap....
1: for starters young players in the bubble like Herro and Robinson did not feel the pressure of a hostile crowd in away games which in my opinio benefited us a lot, a very good 3 point shooting which we have not been able to duplicate again. A lot of things went our way for us to reach the finals that year and last year to get to the Eastern finals, Embiid missing games, etc etc.

2: Team is mediocre middle of the pack, definitely not championship material, due to multiple holes in the construction, bad financial mistakes by the organization and in my opinion not the best coaching job.

3: Fan of the dolphins and panthers, no wonder you seem to hold this current Heat team so high.

4: The Wade and Lebron years will spoil any fan, same as Golden State with their success. But this is not about spoiling, this is about not closing your eyes, stuck as a middle of the pack team with no hopes to win a title in the foreseable future unless they right the ship with a superstar and very good complementary players.

5: And still we continue doing the same thing over and over again, same garbage schemes which does not place the team in a position to win ball games. Simply put the schemes are bad, most of the time substitutions are bad, timing substituting players are also bad, overpaying players who are not worth it, I mean Pat Riley was always a guy with vision, I am not sure what is wrong with him, for the past few years i dont think he did as good of a job as years past.

6: Expecting a championship every year is absurd, but make no mistake that is the goal, not an Eastern Conference championship, not a second round exit, its the Larry O'brien trophy what franchises want. I just dont think this team as currently constructed and our hands tied up financially are going to get there. If that sounds too absurd to you then its all fine and dandy but we are not winning anything meaningful as is no matter how optimistic you feel. History tells otherwise.

[MHeat0279]

I’m pretty sure playoff Jimmy qualifies as a “superior Unstoppable Force in the NBA” if that’s your logic

Jimmy is a star, there's no question about that, but he's not a superior Unstoppable Force (Kbe was, wade, bron, joker, dokic, etcétera)... almost none could visualize Jimmys kind of playing as a force or as Unstoppable... and that is a superstar

Yes he’s not the 2nd best player ever, a top 10 player ever, or a top 15 player ever. That’s not news to anyone lol but he just had a postseason run that ranks right up there with the greatest in Miami Heat history (Wade, LeBron) so he has shown he can take his game to that level when it matters most. There’s no argument against that.

No argument at all about it, the difference is how often he can do it, that is what separates him from the Wades and Lebrons of the world.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Jimmy is a star, there's no question about that, but he's not a superior Unstoppable Force (Kbe was, wade, bron, joker, dokic, etcétera)... almost none could visualize Jimmys kind of playing as a force or as Unstoppable... and that is a superstar

Yes he’s not the 2nd best player ever, a top 10 player ever, or a top 15 player ever. That’s not news to anyone lol but he just had a postseason run that ranks right up there with the greatest in Miami Heat history (Wade, LeBron) so he has shown he can take his game to that level when it matters most. There’s no argument against that.

No argument at all about it, the difference is how often he can do it, that is what separates him from the Wades and Lebrons of the world.

We don’t know if he can or can’t do it again. You all are speaking on it as if it’s fact that he can’t. He’s had us in almost 2 finals in the last 3 years

[MHeat0279]

Yes he’s not the 2nd best player ever, a top 10 player ever, or a top 15 player ever. That’s not news to anyone lol but he just had a postseason run that ranks right up there with the greatest in Miami Heat history (Wade, LeBron) so he has shown he can take his game to that level when it matters most. There’s no argument against that.

No argument at all about it, the difference is how often he can do it, that is what separates him from the Wades and Lebrons of the world.

We don’t know if he can or can’t do it again. You all are speaking on it as if it’s fact that he can’t. He’s had us in almost 2 finals in the last 3 years

Do you see imposing his will on almost any game throughout the season? because I dont. Is he capable of playing at a superstar level? yes as he has shown before, but to impose his will on the basketball court day in and out like a Wade and Lebron? Nope.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

No argument at all about it, the difference is how often he can do it, that is what separates him from the Wades and Lebrons of the world.

We don’t know if he can or can’t do it again. You all are speaking on it as if it’s fact that he can’t. He’s had us in almost 2 finals in the last 3 years

Do you see imposing his will on almost any game throughout the season? because I dont. Is he capable of playing at a superstar level? yes as he has shown before, but to impose his will on the basketball court day in and out like a Wade and Lebron? Nope.

We’re talking playoffs.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

But yes I’d say 22-7-6 with elite defense is imposing his will

[MHeat0279]

But yes I’d say 22-7-6 with elite defense is imposing his will

Yep, he is up there with Dwade, Lebron, Durant, Kobe, Shaq.