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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#43 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:04 pm

I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#44 » by Baphomet » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:11 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Want their clout and their bag. Gary Neville got roasted by Ian Hislop on Have I Got News For You for his hypocrisy over the tournament, and Neville didn't really have an answer. It's cognitive dissonance in the purest sense.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#45 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:17 pm

So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?
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Post#46 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:23 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Want their clout and their bag. Gary Neville got roasted by Ian Hislop on Have I Got News For You for his hypocrisy over the tournament, and Neville didn't really have an answer. It's cognitive dissonance in the purest sense.


Definitely! I remember that clip actually and it made me laugh. I still maintain that this energy towards Qatar should be to FIFA, we all know that most Middle Eastern countries don’t have the same views as western countries, so they should’ve had that in mind if they wanted a 'moral' World Cup.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#47 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:24 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


To be honest I’m still watching it, I’m not going to act like I like what’s happening in Qatar. However i consume so many things that hasn’t got the best ethics and this is no different in my opinion.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#48 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:30 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


To be honest I’m still watching it, I’m not going to act like I like what’s happening in Qatar. However i consume so many things that hasn’t got the best ethics and this is no different in my opinion.

The interest level seems to be the lowest of any WC that I can recall. Fwiw the games will be played in the early mornings here in the States. So that obviously won't help ratings.
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Post#49 » by AK47MVP » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:41 pm

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First time i've seen someoone pick qatar


For the stupidest reasons only... Qatar sucks and would have never been in this WC if not for the host rights. Predicting they will finish 2d when they will struggle to score a single goal is utter stupidity.
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Post#50 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:47 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


To be honest I’m still watching it, I’m not going to act like I like what’s happening in Qatar. However i consume so many things that hasn’t got the best ethics and this is no different in my opinion.

The interest level seems to be the lowest of any WC that I can recall. Fwiw the games will be played in the early mornings here in the States. So that obviously won't help ratings.


I definitely can see this being one of the lowest rated WC due to a few things. What you said about it being aired really early for you guys, especially since interest in football is growing in the states.
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Post#51 » by MaliBrah » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:48 pm

How on earth did Qatar win that last asian cup? They beat Korea and Japan if i'm not mistaken. Crazy
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Post#52 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:56 pm

MaliBrah wrote:How on earth did Qatar win that last asian cup? They beat Korea and Japan if i'm not mistaken. Crazy


They are awful, they will struggle with physicality. Not only that, they are so slow progressing the ball.
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Post#53 » by WetLikeWater » Sun Nov 20, 2022 6:06 pm

This wc will be amazing!! I
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Post#54 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:03 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Personally I don't have a problem with broadcasters who are being paid to report the cup being there and reporting it, as long as they make it clear that they disagree (if they do) with some of the Qatar positions. If the companies are paying the Qataris to be there then I don't agree with them only their employees.

As long as you get to see the matches then I don't see why it should worry you about them "slating" the hosts. It would be hypocrisy if they didn't make people aware of the situation. So the opening ceremony was on the red button - so you could watch it, couldn't you?

Football isn't more important than human rights and this world cup has been made into a human rights issue. I didn't watch and haven't read anything about the match yet - I will do, at some time. When I do I'll be thinking of those indentured workers and their mates who died building the stadiums for this competition.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#55 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Want their clout and their bag. Gary Neville got roasted by Ian Hislop on Have I Got News For You for his hypocrisy over the tournament, and Neville didn't really have an answer. It's cognitive dissonance in the purest sense.


I'm not sure it is. If Neville is saying that qatar is a good country and they are treating LGBTQ+ and immigrants how they should be treated then he'd be wrong. If he's simply there watching and reporting on the football then I don't have a problem. He's being paid to do the job he loves, his expenses are paid by his employer, they may be the hypocrites, even Ian hislop could be seen as a hipocrit if he is talking about neville just to promote himself and his programme (though he probably isn't doing that - I don't know).
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Post#56 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:08 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


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Post#57 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:13 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Want their clout and their bag. Gary Neville got roasted by Ian Hislop on Have I Got News For You for his hypocrisy over the tournament, and Neville didn't really have an answer. It's cognitive dissonance in the purest sense.


Definitely! I remember that clip actually and it made me laugh. I still maintain that this energy towards Qatar should be to FIFA, we all know that most Middle Eastern countries don’t have the same views as western countries, so they should’ve had that in mind if they wanted a 'moral' World Cup.


Agreed, FIFA are the true villains, corrupt and dirty. That doesn't mean that we should support a country with whom we disagree on human rights issues. We need to make it clear that it is unacceptable so that it doesn't happen again. What amazes me is that Russia were thrown out of this tournament because of Human rights issues.

FIFA disgust me as does the mentality of many of the "big" teams who are only in our beautiful sport for the money.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#58 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:16 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


To be honest I’m still watching it, I’m not going to act like I like what’s happening in Qatar. However i consume so many things that hasn’t got the best ethics and this is no different in my opinion.


That's your choice and your right. Of course if you were a Qatari gay you wouldn't be able to watch it, you wouldn't be alive. If you were an indentured Qatari worker or a family member of one of the many who died you may have different thoughts and actions. Sometimes we have to make a stand even if it is a little (inconsequential) stand.

I also admit I have my own ethical a moral codes.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#59 » by LDNMagic90 » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:17 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:I don’t get these pundits here in the UK(BBC) I get that this World Cup is corrupt etc, but why slate the host country about the World Cup but be happy to be paid for working at the same said competition? I missed the start of the game but I also heard BBC didn’t make the ceremony available to see only on the red button? When has the BBC ever not shown an opening ceremony for a competition.


Personally I don't have a problem with broadcasters who are being paid to report the cup being there and reporting it, as long as they make it clear that they disagree (if they do) with some of the Qatar positions. If the companies are paying the Qataris to be there then I don't agree with them only their employees.

As long as you get to see the matches then I don't see why it should worry you about them "slating" the hosts. It would be hypocrisy if they didn't make people aware of the situation. So the opening ceremony was on the red button - so you could watch it, couldn't you?

Football isn't more important than human rights and this world cup has been made into a human rights issue. I didn't watch and haven't read anything about the match yet - I will do, at some time. When I do I'll be thinking of those indentured workers and their mates who died building the stadiums for this competition.


I do understand the issues in Qatar and I’ve said on a few post that I don’t necessarily agree with their stance on a few things (I get that most of the law their is based of Islam and sharia law etc). However why would you not show the ceremony on terrestrial television? I know majority of people have digital TVs/devices etc but for the few that don’t, they should also have access to watch it. They showed the Russian one for example and that was also corrupt/Russia also have their issues?

I will also have the thoughts of those workers the same way I’ve done for any competition I was pretty vocal about the conditions for the workers in Brazil etc.

I just find it funny that the crew on BBC felt so strongly about it and Gary Neville did, but it’s not like they don’t have a choice to work there. They can still reject it and I’ll even respect them for completing boycotting it.
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Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 - Group Stage 

Post#60 » by HIF » Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:18 pm

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LDNMagic90 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:So does anyone plan on actually watching this thing? Curious how the ratings turn out?


To be honest I’m still watching it, I’m not going to act like I like what’s happening in Qatar. However i consume so many things that hasn’t got the best ethics and this is no different in my opinion.

The interest level seems to be the lowest of any WC that I can recall. Fwiw the games will be played in the early mornings here in the States. So that obviously won't help ratings.


Here many are in the afternoon and people are working. It's also winter. I'm sure interest will pick up in later rounds and if the team people support progresses.
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