Political Roundtable Part XXXI

[doclinkin]

Pelosi to not run for leadership in the upcoming term

the end of an era in which she made history and was quite effective.

I do hope they pass the rule against congresscritters trading stock in the lame duck session.

I think Jeffries is a great choice to follow her.

Sure. We will surely get more deals done. Repugnicans are more likely to be unreasonable when opposed by a woman than, you know, a black dude with a muslim first name.

He's both a fine choice AND/BUT his very existence will enflame and motivate the opposition to even more odious depths of stubborn ignorance and trucluence. The GOP got swamped by anti-Dobbs voters and Trump fatigue in the mid-term. Apathy kept their people at home. But they can fundraise billions off his first name alone. Not saying it's right, just saying it is the most likely result.

[Bonscott]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

[dckingsfan]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Preach comrade Bonscott… DeSantis will rule a glorious takeover of the US and do well under Russian rule... keep preaching!

[Pointgod]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Yeah just like the red wave midterms right?

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[Pointgod]

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[Pointgod]

Pelosi to not run for leadership in the upcoming term

the end of an era in which she made history and was quite effective.

I do hope they pass the rule against congresscritters trading stock in the lame duck session.

I think Jeffries is a great choice to follow her.

I like Jeffries and think he seems capable, even though he sometimes sounds like he’s reading from a hostage letter. The most important thing for the Minority leader is to keep the caucus in line. The next two years are about to be a **** show. Democrats need to get in front of the messaging war and present a unified front. No petty squabbling, no one going rogue on the messaging. Two years they need to own the narrative and expose Republicans.

And yes they need to get ahead of passing that legislation to ban Congress people trading stocks.

[dckingsfan]

Pelosi to not run for leadership in the upcoming term

the end of an era in which she made history and was quite effective.

I do hope they pass the rule against congresscritters trading stock in the lame duck session.

I think Jeffries is a great choice to follow her.

I like Jeffries and think he seems capable, even though he sometimes sounds like he’s reading from a hostage letter. The most important thing for the Minority leader is to keep the caucus in line. The next two years are about to be a **** show. Democrats need to get in front of the messaging war and present a unified front. No petty squabbling, no one going rogue on the messaging. Two years they need to own the narrative and expose Republicans.

And yes they need to get ahead of passing that legislation to ban Congress people trading stocks.

Not trading stocks is going to be hard unless there is some sort of blind trust provision. How about spouses? Close relatives. Friends?

I have thought about this one but haven't come up with a solution.

[Pointgod]

I think Jeffries is a great choice to follow her.

I like Jeffries and think he seems capable, even though he sometimes sounds like he’s reading from a hostage letter. The most important thing for the Minority leader is to keep the caucus in line. The next two years are about to be a **** show. Democrats need to get in front of the messaging war and present a unified front. No petty squabbling, no one going rogue on the messaging. Two years they need to own the narrative and expose Republicans.

And yes they need to get ahead of passing that legislation to ban Congress people trading stocks.

Not trading stocks is going to be hard unless there is some sort of blind trust provision. How about spouses? Close relatives. Friends?

I have thought about this one but haven't come up with a solution.

I think the most straight forward place to start is stipulate that all stock trading for members of congress, aides, and immediate family members should be done through a blind trust. And there should be actual penalties for violating the rules. What happened during the beginning of COVID was 100% insider trading, but everyone just looked the other way.

[dckingsfan]

I like Jeffries and think he seems capable, even though he sometimes sounds like he’s reading from a hostage letter. The most important thing for the Minority leader is to keep the caucus in line. The next two years are about to be a **** show. Democrats need to get in front of the messaging war and present a unified front. No petty squabbling, no one going rogue on the messaging. Two years they need to own the narrative and expose Republicans.

And yes they need to get ahead of passing that legislation to ban Congress people trading stocks.

Not trading stocks is going to be hard unless there is some sort of blind trust provision. How about spouses? Close relatives. Friends?

I have thought about this one but haven't come up with a solution.

I think the most straight forward place to start is stipulate that all stock trading for members of congress, aides, and immediate family members should be done through a blind trust. And there should be actual penalties for violating the rules. What happened during the beginning of COVID was 100% insider trading, but everyone just looked the other way.

There are rules in place especially for reporting - but it wasn't enforced.

I would be good with a blind trust and enforcement. But then you get back to the relatives. Spouses, children, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts and uncles... where do you draw the line? Especially when someone is on congress and their spouse is a business person?

[dobrojim]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Just wondering how you feel about being the minority party that eeks
out wins by gaming the system. Why do you think Dems get so many
more votes than your guys?

[dobrojim]

not sure if this is political but for lack of a arguably better thread in which to post it...

(from a friend)
If they lose in court they need to cough up over $3B in this crypto bro ponzie scheme. Makes Madoff look tame.

Tom Brady. Stephen Curry. Shaq. See the Celebrities With Ties to FTX

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-celebrities-including-tom-brady-tied-to-ftx-see-the-list-11668109684

[Wizardspride]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

[Zonkerbl]

My first mastodon mega thread is on neoliberalism and related themes

https://masthead.social/@zonkerbrainless/109381750386663758

[Pointgod]

Not trading stocks is going to be hard unless there is some sort of blind trust provision. How about spouses? Close relatives. Friends?

I have thought about this one but haven't come up with a solution.

I think the most straight forward place to start is stipulate that all stock trading for members of congress, aides, and immediate family members should be done through a blind trust. And there should be actual penalties for violating the rules. What happened during the beginning of COVID was 100% insider trading, but everyone just looked the other way.

There are rules in place especially for reporting - but it wasn't enforced.

I would be good with a blind trust and enforcement. But then you get back to the relatives. Spouses, children, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts and uncles... where do you draw the line? Especially when someone is on congress and their spouse is a business person?

I think you make it simple as possible to enforce. Partners, children, parents and siblings all have to put their trades in a blind trust. What you’re trying avoid is the situation with Ron Paul’s wife which is obvious insider trading to anyone with a brain.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/rand-pauls-wife-bought-shares-in-covid-treatment-maker-gilead-as-virus-spread.html

Rand Paul’s wife is a journalist and political consultant who hadn’t made a stock purchase in decades but conveniently timed her purchase in a pharmaceutical company.

The purchase of up to $15,000 worth of Gilead shares was made three weeks before the World Health Organization declared Covid a pandemic. On Feb. 26, 2020, the day Kelley Paul bought the shares, there were only 14 confirmed cases of Covid in the United States.

You could have exceptions for relatives who are actually investment professionals. But again at the end of the day it’s about personal trading so it might not even be applicable in a business context.

[Pointgod]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Just wondering how you feel about being the minority party that eeks
out wins by gaming the system. Why do you think Dems get so many
more votes than your guys?

Bahahhaaha do you believe Bonscott has put an ounce of thought into his position? Dude is mainlining right wing idiots. He 100% has the stupidest Twitter timeline you’ll ever see. Dude is a weirdo that just wants to own the Libs. Probably someone’s alt account.

[verbal8]

Not trading stocks is going to be hard unless there is some sort of blind trust provision. How about spouses? Close relatives. Friends?

I have thought about this one but haven't come up with a solution.

I think the most straight forward place to start is stipulate that all stock trading for members of congress, aides, and immediate family members should be done through a blind trust. And there should be actual penalties for violating the rules. What happened during the beginning of COVID was 100% insider trading, but everyone just looked the other way.

There are rules in place especially for reporting - but it wasn't enforced.

I would be good with a blind trust and enforcement. But then you get back to the relatives. Spouses, children, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts and uncles... where do you draw the line? Especially when someone is on congress and their spouse is a business person?

One relatively simple option could be to offer them a taxable account versions of the mutual funds for the Thrift Savings Plan. I think it would make sense to include Spouses, adult children might be a little trickier to determine the correct approach. I think the conflicts of interest for members of Congress and local businesses are probably less than if they were local politicians, so I don't know that there need to be particular safeguards there.

[dobrojim]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Just wondering how you feel about being the minority party that eeks
out wins by gaming the system. Why do you think Dems get so many
more votes than your guys?

Bahahhaaha do you believe Bonscott has put an ounce of thought into his position? Dude is mainlining right wing idiots. He 100% has the stupidest Twitter timeline you’ll ever see. Dude is a weirdo that just wants to own the Libs. Probably someone’s alt account.

I want him to answer and am confident readers can judge for themselves
the strength and rigor of his thought process.

[montestewart]

Possibly more morris than rigor

[dobrojim]

Confessing to feelings of real vulnerability about my 2 LGBTQ adult kids
in the wake of the latest attack on similar people in CO.

I hope Popper understands how completely wrong it would
be to support a politician like his governor who commits
stochastic terrorism on a near daily basis.

[dckingsfan]

Hopefully the country can withstand 2 more years of the dumbest president in history.DeSantis will certainly have his hands full unscrewing everything that dimocrats have screwed up

Just wondering how you feel about being the minority party that eeks out wins by gaming the system. Why do you think Dems get so many more votes than your guys?

Bahahhaaha do you believe Bonscott has put an ounce of thought into his position? Dude is mainlining right wing idiots. He 100% has the stupidest Twitter timeline you’ll ever see. Dude is a weirdo that just wants to own the Libs. Probably someone’s alt account.

Comrade Bonscott is the correct answer.