Jayson Tatum Thread – (All-NBA Team, 2024)

[Theocy]

I would like to give special thanks to Chipotle for their valuable contribution to the Celtics landing Jayson Tatum.

jezus that picture is brutal. you can see someone is like 'dude wtf'

[sam_I_am]

I would like to give special thanks to Chipotle for their valuable contribution to the Celtics landing Jayson Tatum.

jezus that picture is brutal. you can see someone is like 'dude wtf'

In retrospect….it was an insane risk to trade the #1 pick to 76ers instead of taking Tatum #1.

[lon3lytoaster]

I would like to give special thanks to Chipotle for their valuable contribution to the Celtics landing Jayson Tatum.

jezus that picture is brutal. you can see someone is like 'dude wtf'

In retrospect….it was an insane risk to trade the #1 pick to 76ers instead of taking Tatum #1.

I don’t think so. I’m just disappointed the return we got for trading down didn’t turn into anything great apart from a contract to trade for Derrick White.

At the time, the Sixers were THIRSTY for a real PG to put into their core and had been looking for years from what I remember. With limited time to evaluate Fultz, Danny backed them into a corner a little.

Magic Johnson was still influential over the Lakers direction. You knew they were taking Lonzo being a local hero and had some “similarities” to Magic.

Tatum definitely had some question marks but imagine if the Kings didn’t play up that next season and we landed a few picks higher than 14? Yikes.

[bisme37]

JT now #1 on the MVP Ladder...

1. Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics

Last week’s ranking: No. 2

Season stats: 31.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.5 apg

Tatum showed he was king of the court as the Prince and Princess of Wales sat courtside Wednesday to watch him drill eight 3-pointers as part of a season-high 49 points in a win against the Miami Heat. The performance marked Tatum’s third 40-point game of the season as Boston’s top-rated offense powered the team’s fifth straight win. Tatum is the sixth player in NBA history to have multiple games with 45 points or more with 10 or more rebounds while only committing one turnover or fewer, joining the company of Anthony Davis (six such games), Michael Jordan (three), Antetokounmpo (three), Kobe Bryant (two) and Carmelo Anthony (two).

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-2-2022-edition

(I honestly don't know Luka is so high in these MVP rankings. He's an incredible scorer and was the MVP favorite before the season started. But the point of playing NBA basketball is to win the game, so I look at MVP as "most valuable to winning." Luka's team is in 11th place in the West.)

[lon3lytoaster]

JT now #1 on the MVP Ladder...

1. Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics

Last week’s ranking: No. 2

Season stats: 31.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.5 apg

Tatum showed he was king of the court as the Prince and Princess of Wales sat courtside Wednesday to watch him drill eight 3-pointers as part of a season-high 49 points in a win against the Miami Heat. The performance marked Tatum’s third 40-point game of the season as Boston’s top-rated offense powered the team’s fifth straight win. Tatum is the sixth player in NBA history to have multiple games with 45 points or more with 10 or more rebounds while only committing one turnover or fewer, joining the company of Anthony Davis (six such games), Michael Jordan (three), Antetokounmpo (three), Kobe Bryant (two) and Carmelo Anthony (two).

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-2-2022-edition

(I honestly don't know Luka is so high in these MVP rankings. He's an incredible scorer and was the MVP favorite before the season started. But the point of playing NBA basketball is to win the game, so I look at MVP as "most valuable to winning." Luka's team is in 11th place in the West.)

Couldn’t agree more. If the Celtics finish with the best record in the league it would be a sham to give anyone else MVP. Tatum is all over total points and +/- totals.

[TheMartian]

JT now #1 on the MVP Ladder...

1. Jayson Tatum, Boston Celtics

Last week’s ranking: No. 2

Season stats: 31.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.5 apg

Tatum showed he was king of the court as the Prince and Princess of Wales sat courtside Wednesday to watch him drill eight 3-pointers as part of a season-high 49 points in a win against the Miami Heat. The performance marked Tatum’s third 40-point game of the season as Boston’s top-rated offense powered the team’s fifth straight win. Tatum is the sixth player in NBA history to have multiple games with 45 points or more with 10 or more rebounds while only committing one turnover or fewer, joining the company of Anthony Davis (six such games), Michael Jordan (three), Antetokounmpo (three), Kobe Bryant (two) and Carmelo Anthony (two).

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-2-2022-edition

(I honestly don't know Luka is so high in these MVP rankings. He's an incredible scorer and was the MVP favorite before the season started. But the point of playing NBA basketball is to win the game, so I look at MVP as "most valuable to winning." Luka's team is in 11th place in the West.)

Couldn’t agree more. If the Celtics finish with the best record in the league it would be a sham to give anyone else MVP. Tatum is all over total points and +/- totals.

B-but... But.... Luka iz ze future GOAT!?!

[Floody100]

He better drop a 50 piece against the Nets on Sunday after that garbage.

[Feed Your Head]

He was caca last night lol. Everyone has stinkers, he just needs to keep them at a minimum, if he wants to win MVP.

Which I gotta say, I didn’t know if he’d ever be a top 3 player, and certainly not by 24. I’ve been on the record here in the past that I thought he’d top out as top 4-8ish player, but now? He looks like he could be on an all time great, top 25-30th ever kind of track.

[Feed Your Head]

Dude is having a crazy season.

AD has been kind of a monster lol.

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[threrf23]

AD has always been a monster when healthy, even if he hasn't missed that many games, he has rarely been 100%

[keevsnick1]

Dude is having a crazy season.

AD has been kind of a monster lol.

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I know its only 12 games for him, and I know the Celtics didn't really "draft" him because the trade was already agreed to, but seeing Desmond Bane on that list hurts, especially because part of that trade was just salary relief.

[Feed Your Head]

Dude is having a crazy season.

AD has been kind of a monster lol.

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I know its only 12 games for him, and I know the Celtics didn't really "draft" him because the trade was already agreed to, but seeing Desmond Bane on that list hurts, especially because part of that trade was just salary relief.

Just to a dump a player we ended up bringing back lol.

[keevsnick1]

Dude is having a crazy season.

AD has been kind of a monster lol.

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I know its only 12 games for him, and I know the Celtics didn't really "draft" him because the trade was already agreed to, but seeing Desmond Bane on that list hurts, especially because part of that trade was just salary relief.

Just to a dump a player we ended up bringing back lol.

Right, and at that point everybody knew Enes Kanter couldn't play in the league. Everybody except Ainge. Ainge did a lot of great things here, but by the end filling out there roster was a disaster. Incredible to think how far the role players on this team have come.

But on Tatum, its crazy to think as good as he's been he's still maybe been like the 6th best offensive player in the league. Steph, Jokic, Durant, Luka (crazy Volume), AD all arguably better. Tatum's MVP case will rest on four things:

1) Close enough to those guys offensively.
2) Never misses games, plays a ton of minutes (ie adds value with Volume).
3) Better defensively than pure offense players like Luka, Steph, Jokic
4) Team is incredible unlike those of Luka, Durant, AD.

If C's fans want Tatum to be MVP they gotta flood the conversation with those four points. Be obnoxious about it.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Tatum is now far ahead of the field in +/-. He's sitting on +219 now when Booker in second is at +172. Was +667 last year when only Bridges (+576) and Curry (+509) were even above +500. Yes some of that is the Boston being awesome but I'm not sure people outside of Boston fans realize how much he drives winning.

[165bows]

Tatum is now far ahead of the field in +/-. He's sitting on +219 now when Booker in second is at +172. Was +667 last year when only Bridges (+576) and Curry (+509) were even above +500. Yes some of that is the Boston being awesome but I'm not sure people outside of Boston fans realize how much he drives winning.

Yeah it's crazy to watch in real time when you look for it. People have mentioned it a good bit here and it really is pronounced. Dude is a big time winner with crazy impact.

[Feed Your Head]

Tatum is now far ahead of the field in +/-. He's sitting on +219 now when Booker in second is at +172. Was +667 last year when only Bridges (+576) and Curry (+509) were even above +500. Yes some of that is the Boston being awesome but I'm not sure people outside of Boston fans realize how much he drives winning.

Yeah it's crazy to watch in real time when you look for it. People have mentioned it a good bit here and it really is pronounced. Dude is a big time winner with crazy impact.

Everyone agrees this team is stacked, and yet, the picture below is the teams net rating with those players OFF the floor. When Tatum is off the court, our net rating would be worse than all but 7 teams this season, so far.

[165bows]

Tatum is now far ahead of the field in +/-. He's sitting on +219 now when Booker in second is at +172. Was +667 last year when only Bridges (+576) and Curry (+509) were even above +500. Yes some of that is the Boston being awesome but I'm not sure people outside of Boston fans realize how much he drives winning.

Yeah it's crazy to watch in real time when you look for it. People have mentioned it a good bit here and it really is pronounced. Dude is a big time winner with crazy impact.

Everyone agrees this team is stacked, and yet, the picture below is the teams net rating with those players OFF the floor. When Tatum is off the court, our net rating would be worse than all but 7 teams this season, so far.

Yeah under-rated piece is almost everyone on the team is a low volume scorer, outside Tatum, Brown and Brogdon. Brown's areas of limitations have been discussed ad nauseum, Brogdon's the most well-rounded other guy on the team.

Outside that, they are a great collection of complimentary guys but zero dynamic offensive dudes. We've traded in Danny's love of the creative scorer for a real team (which is good), but it leaves Tatum as the big time straw that stirs the drink. As great as this club has been, you can see why they targeted Gallo when you look at the per possession scoring of a bunch of guys - a much better version of last year, with extreme high efficiency and lower volume.

[steefP2]

Yeah it's crazy to watch in real time when you look for it. People have mentioned it a good bit here and it really is pronounced. Dude is a big time winner with crazy impact.

Everyone agrees this team is stacked, and yet, the picture below is the teams net rating with those players OFF the floor. When Tatum is off the court, our net rating would be worse than all but 7 teams this season, so far.

Yeah under-rated piece is almost everyone on the team is a low volume scorer, outside Tatum, Brown and Brogdon. Brown's areas of limitations have been discussed ad nauseum, Brogdon's the most well-rounded other guy on the team.

Outside that, they are a great collection of complimentary guys but zero dynamic offensive dudes. We've traded in Danny's love of the creative scorer for a real team (which is good), but it leaves Tatum as the big time straw that stirs the drink. As great as this club has been, you can see why they targeted Gallo when you look at the per possession scoring of a bunch of guys - a much better version of last year, with extreme high efficiency and lower volume.

An underrated aspect of Tatum that allows for this kind of roster construction is he doesn’t miss time. You get your drink stirrer for 70+ games. You can only really count on that from him and jokic among the top 10

[playa-hater]

Tatum is now far ahead of the field in +/-. He's sitting on +219 now when Booker in second is at +172. Was +667 last year when only Bridges (+576) and Curry (+509) were even above +500. Yes some of that is the Boston being awesome but I'm not sure people outside of Boston fans realize how much he drives winning.

Tatum ahead of Hauser?? That should clinch the MVP for me.

The counter arguments are always Tatum has really good teammates. Not saying he doesn't. But he really makes a impact in so many ways, that aren't measured in stats. The =/- on a big scale is not a coincidence.

[zoyathedestroya]

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