Midgets @ Pistons 12/6 7:30PM

[wade44]

I don’t usually go on Twitter, but mofos are crapping on Riley

As they should, it all starts at the top

I’d be shocked if this isn’t his last year at this rate. Although I can’t help but wonder if he’s more of just a figurehead nowadays and someone else is actually running the show

[HeatingUp3]

One day you beat Boston and the next day you lose to the worst team in the league.
I don't expect anything from the front office but man..... you gotta be blind not to do something, anything to improve this roster.
I can smell the trash bench that we have from Europe as we speak.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I don’t usually go on Twitter, but mofos are crapping on Riley

As they should, it all starts at the top

I’d be shocked if this isn’t his last year at this rate. Although I can’t help but wonder if he’s more of just a figurehead nowadays and someone else is actually running the show

He’s gotta show us something soon, we can’t wait until
The deadline. If not he needs to step aside

[HeatFanLifer]

What a poorly built team.

[Heat_Down_Under]

Shambles…. Who’s disagreeing with tank mode now?

[MorbidHEAT]

As they should, it all starts at the top

I’d be shocked if this isn’t his last year at this rate. Although I can’t help but wonder if he’s more of just a figurehead nowadays and someone else is actually running the show

He’s gotta show us something soon, we can’t wait until
The deadline. If not he needs to step aside

It's suspected that when Riley steps aside, then Spoelstra will step into his place as Head coach/president. I feel like that is a fate that would be worse than death for half of the forum.

[MorbidHEAT]

Honestly hate this team. The least fun I’ve had as a Heat fan in awhile.

I agree. Been one of the most frustrating Heat teams that I can remember. I don't even remember being as frustrated with the 15-67 season. I still think it has a lot to do with the ridiculous amount of rumors and all that caused a hangover for fans and even some of the players. It's been odd.

[MorbidHEAT]

Uhhhh, Bam lowkey called spo out for a lack of continuity in his lineups...interesting.

What was said

I’ve felt a beef brewing between those 2 this season to be honest

He basically said that everyone in the association would struggle if they never knew what role they were going to be hit with on any given night. "Am I starting? Am I coming off the bench? Am I getting off the bench? Am I starting tonight? Or back to the bench? Any guy in the entire association will struggle if they can't get any rhythm because they don't know what to expect in any game."

Something like that. Should be a vid of that **** somewhere.

I think this is the first time in his post-Lebron tenure that Spo might be feeling a little Heat. However, he would be the scapegoat. He wasn't given much to work with. Front office was wrong in thinking this team was any good. I saw it coming and a bunch of others did as well. This starts all the way at the top. I can't imagine them sitting in meetings and saying "we don't need a 4, we have Caleb". For the love of god, Dwight Howard and Demarcus Cousins are still available. They can give a few minutes a game...get some height that can get some rebounds and a few more big body's that have 6 fouls. There has to be a move. Spo has a lot of the blame, but I don't see many other options with the personnell. I was watching Jovic. He looked absolutely lost on offense and defense. He is not an option yet, in my opinion.

[HeatFanLifer]

What was said

I’ve felt a beef brewing between those 2 this season to be honest

He basically said that everyone in the association would struggle if they never knew what role they were going to be hit with on any given night. "Am I starting? Am I coming off the bench? Am I getting off the bench? Am I starting tonight? Or back to the bench? Any guy in the entire association will struggle if they can't get any rhythm because they don't know what to expect in any game."

Something like that. Should be a vid of that **** somewhere.

I think this is the first time in his post-Lebron tenure that Spo might be feeling a little Heat. However, he would be the scapegoat. He wasn't given much to work with. Front office was wrong in thinking this team was any good. I saw it coming and a bunch of others did as well. This starts all the way at the top. I can't imagine them sitting in meetings and saying "we don't need a 4, we have Caleb". For the love of god, Dwight Howard and Demarcus Cousins are still available. They can give a few minutes a game...get some height that can get some rebounds and a few more big body's that have 6 fouls. There has to be a move. Spo has a lot of the blame, but I don't see many other options with the personnell. I was watching Jovic. He looked absolutely lost on offense and defense. He is not an option yet, in my opinion.

Spo has always been a believer in positionless basketball, so it’s built into his system that any player could serve any role at any time. I think Spo was spoiled with Lebron being that type of player and can’t understand that no other player is Lebron.

Is Spo solely to blame for such a bad team? No, but this team needs some clarity. I mean it’s no surprise Jovic is lost, this system is just way too complex for a team with this talent pool.

[Pokuokic]

Also, Jovic, man. Shoot the fn ball like a man please. This kid, bro. Now he can't shoot? Send his ass back to Europe.

He's not a knockdown shooter his 3pt% sucked in the ABA, part of that was him being the primary ball handler and no one to create for him, his best skills are his passing/moving without the ball currently. He could potentially be and most likely will be one but he's more a all around basketball player currently than he is shooter at the pro level.

The Timberwolves made the same mistake with Bjelica (he came over way to late but at 28) thinking he was a pure knockdown shooter when he was also more a all round player who could shoot a high %.

[eddieheatfan]

Watch on YouTube

[abark]

Also, Jovic, man. Shoot the fn ball like a man please. This kid, bro. Now he can't shoot? Send his ass back to Europe.

He's not a knockdown shooter his 3pt% sucked in the ABA, part of that was him being the primary ball handler and no one to create for him, his best skills are his passing/moving without the ball currently. He could potentially be and most likely will be one but he's more a all around basketball player currently than he is shooter at the pro level.

The Timberwolves made the same mistake with Bjelica (he came over way to late but at 28) thinking he was a pure knockdown shooter when he was also more a all round player who could shoot a high %.

He’s not a knock down shooter but he shot 35.6% for MEGA over 25 games last year in the ABA. His career percentage was 36.1% if u include the 4 games he played in the previous year. So where are u getting that his 3 point % sucked in the ABA?

[abark]

Boy I wish I could donate my height, athleticism, court vision, and length in my physical prime to those scrubs. Just not my knees lol.

You’d get playing time over Jovic

Lmfao hell no! I'm only 6'7" with a 7' wingspan.

Great. Now Spo is drooling over the idea of starting u over Bam at center

[Pokuokic]

Also, Jovic, man. Shoot the fn ball like a man please. This kid, bro. Now he can't shoot? Send his ass back to Europe.

He's not a knockdown shooter his 3pt% sucked in the ABA, part of that was him being the primary ball handler and no one to create for him, his best skills are his passing/moving without the ball currently. He could potentially be and most likely will be one but he's more a all around basketball player currently than he is shooter at the pro level.

The Timberwolves made the same mistake with Bjelica (he came over way to late but at 28) thinking he was a pure knockdown shooter when he was also more a all round player who could shoot a high %.

He’s not a knock down shooter but he shot 35.6% for MEGA over 25 games last year in the ABA. His career percentage was 36.1% if u include the 4 games he played in the previous year. So where are u getting that his 3 point % sucked in the ABA?

35.6% is a crap % is it not? He can shoot but his % don't back up him being a knockdown shooter at the pro level. He showed it in the junior comps and is clearly talented but again his best skills are not shooting currently.

[dshearn]

One thing I see clear as day is players not moving.

There is too much standing around.

I get the defensive style is taxing, and players have to take plays off...but that defense is not winning games if the offense craters.

When we see these g league guys over perform a lot of times its sheer effort. Strus and Duncan have stayed in motion and provided a ton of effort. If players are standing around it appears to show why they are g-league talent.



Posters are right, this team is frustrating, but it does show what 1 or 2 players can do for a team.


We have injuries same as last year......but....no Yurt.

Loosing Tuckers level of impact....

It clearly matters.

I think that is added with the team just being tired. Bam was just standing around on defense at one point. It is at LEAST the second time I noticed that... That is horrible...and sure as heck...3 or 4 possessions later..... I saw Herro do it.

I hope that is fatigue, and not an attitude shift. Hell we would rag LEBRON for that, lack of effort is unacceptable.

If the team will not spend the money to add the talent they need, they might as well dismantle the roster and tank. I get luxury tax and all that....but the product on the court right now is working. If this year is a wash (injuries or whatever) sell off lowery and heck maybe Butler and go into a rebuild on Bam and Tyler's timeline.

[Shewasfly]

We really don't win when Tyler has a great game. Really interesting to note. Could be confirmation bias on my part.

We can't play a 6'5" g-leaguer at pf. I don't understand how spo is the only coach in the NBA that doesn't realize this. I don't understand the need to not only try and reinvent the wheel, but to do so by using a square design, stubbornly.

Well to be fair, Herro only has good games when other top players are out of the lineup, and the team can't score so he takes up the majority of the possessions. If others would be cooking, he wouldn't need to score and would be limited in amount of possessions, Herro is also a negative defender, so if he is going up against another scorer, chances are he plays them to an even keel.

Not to mention that we started losing in the second half precisely when Herro stopped scoring in volume. The obsession the fan base has with finding a way to blame him for something even when he legitimately wasn’t the problem is wild.

When Herro was scoring we had the lead in the first half. When he stopped, we literally got blown out in the second half. But can’t let that get in the way of predetermined narratives that fit our weird biases.

[Shewasfly]

Can someone talk me through who the dominant or even average bigs are that Spo has been given that he hasn’t utilized? That he’s refused to play? He made Whiteside a focal point. He’s finding minutes for bum ass Dedmond for God’s sake. We literally have no bigs after that sans the corpse of UD. The only people overly committed to positionless basketball seem to be our FO, who refuses to field a roster with anyone over 6’8 besides Bam.

Until we actually give Spo big players who aren’t rookies and he refuses to play them, the stuff about him refusing to play big is unsubstantiated as far as I’m concerned. This comes down to horrible roster construction. He def should be playing Jokic more though. Not bc he will save anything like y’all are fooling yourselves to believe but bc why tf not. Team sucks anyway

[Tony15]

Can someone talk me through who the dominant or even average bigs are that Spo has been given that he hasn’t utilized? That he’s refused to play? He made Whiteside a focal point. He’s finding minutes for bum ass Dedmond for God’s sake. We literally have no bigs after that sans the corpse of UD. The only people overly committed to positionless basketball seem to be our FO, who refuses to field a roster with anyone over 6’8 besides Bam.

Until we actually give Spo big players who aren’t rookies and he refuses to play them, the stuff about him refusing to play big is unsubstantiated as far as I’m concerned. This comes down to horrible roster construction. He def should be playing Jokic more though. Not bc he will save anything like y’all are fooling yourselves to believe but bc why tf not. Team sucks anyway

Hmm....Yurt last year? You aren't wrong by the way, but after watching Spo run PJ Tucker to the ground in the first half of the season playing the 4 while he had a big he could've utilized just leads me to believe that no matter what....he's sticking with positionless BS because that's all he knows or cares to know. Fair point on Dedmon also, but his minutes are purely for sparing Bam....otherwise we're either playing Bam all 48 minutes or playing Caleb at the 5 lol because we all know Jovic ain't sniffing the court. Watching Dedmon makes me miss Kelly Olynyk sometimes haha....

[ShulaDon92]

He's not a knockdown shooter his 3pt% sucked in the ABA, part of that was him being the primary ball handler and no one to create for him, his best skills are his passing/moving without the ball currently. He could potentially be and most likely will be one but he's more a all around basketball player currently than he is shooter at the pro level.

The Timberwolves made the same mistake with Bjelica (he came over way to late but at 28) thinking he was a pure knockdown shooter when he was also more a all round player who could shoot a high %.

He’s not a knock down shooter but he shot 35.6% for MEGA over 25 games last year in the ABA. His career percentage was 36.1% if u include the 4 games he played in the previous year. So where are u getting that his 3 point % sucked in the ABA?

35.6% is a crap % is it not? He can shoot but his % don't back up him being a knockdown shooter at the pro level. He showed it in the junior comps and is clearly talented but again his best skills are not shooting currently.

He's advertised as a knockdown shooter. He should be shooting better, this slump was not expected.

[Pokuokic]

He’s not a knock down shooter but he shot 35.6% for MEGA over 25 games last year in the ABA. His career percentage was 36.1% if u include the 4 games he played in the previous year. So where are u getting that his 3 point % sucked in the ABA?

35.6% is a crap % is it not? He can shoot but his % don't back up him being a knockdown shooter at the pro level. He showed it in the junior comps and is clearly talented but again his best skills are not shooting currently.

He's advertised as a knockdown shooter. He should be shooting better, this slump was not expected.

If he were a knockdown shooter he would have been a top 10-12 pick, he has the potential to be one but is not one currently. It was bad advertising.