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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#661 » by Bostondave » Mon Jan 2, 2023 2:18 am

Here's a question for somebody, anybody, everybody. Why do you care so deeply that Tatum be voted MVP? I mean really. Why?

Why do I care so little and instead care about championship rings?
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Post#663 » by Bostondave » Mon Jan 2, 2023 11:43 am

Why do you care so passionately that he get some kinda nebulous individual honor?
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Post#664 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jan 6, 2023 3:34 am

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Consistency we were looking for from him last season. I can count on one hand the bad games he's had this season. There are off nights shooting the ball but since he's gotten to the line more and raised his defense/rebounding, he still contributes a ton to Cs winning. He's leveled up.
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#665 » by bisme37 » Fri Jan 6, 2023 5:59 pm

I love how JT has hit the level of still having huge nights when his shot isn't falling. A couple seasons ago that might have been an 8 point game. Now it's a 29 point triple double.
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#666 » by Tatumfor2 » Fri Jan 6, 2023 7:15 pm

The Comedian wrote:Speaking of strange individuals.


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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#667 » by Tatumfor2 » Fri Jan 6, 2023 7:24 pm

Bostondave wrote:Here's a question for somebody, anybody, everybody. Why do you care so deeply that Tatum be voted MVP? I mean really. Why?

Why do I care so little and instead care about championship rings?


MVPs get the calls. Every little bit helps. I doubt a single person here wants Tatum to win MVP instead of a championship. Do you really believe that?
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Post#668 » by shackles10 » Fri Jan 6, 2023 7:30 pm

I don’t know why a person can’t care about a player on the Celtics’ season while also caring about the teams season. Am I not a Celtics fan because I’d like their best player to be recognized by winning MVP? Such a strange take imo.
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Post#669 » by Feed Your Head » Fri Jan 6, 2023 11:02 pm

I don’t care if he wins mvp or not, though it’d be cool for him. All I care about is having a player who’s considered a legitimate mvp candidate at 24 years old.

Almost halfway into the season, and out of the top 20 usage guys in the league, only Demar, Kyrie, and Booker have a lower turnover rate than Tatum. I’d like to see us run the offense through him more, like last night. It will inevitably lead to some more turnovers, but the good of what it brings would far outweigh the extra half turnover a game or whatever it would be.
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Post#670 » by ConstableGeneva » Fri Jan 6, 2023 11:45 pm

Maybe they're trying to ease JT's regular season load, but Cs would be better off raising his usage and lowering JB's.

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JB usage - 31.3
JT usage - 29.2

In Celtics wins:
JB usage - 30.8
JT usage - 33.3
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#671 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Jan 7, 2023 12:17 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:Maybe they're trying to ease JT's regular season load, but Cs would be better off raising his usage and lowering JB's.

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EDIT:
In Celtics losses:
JB usage - 31.3
JT usage - 29.2

In Celtics wins:
JB usage - 30.8
JT usage - 33.3


It’s so very obvious, too lol.

Celtics record in Tatum’s top 25 usage games is 21-4.

Celtics record in Jaylen’s top 25 usage games is 14-11.

This should not be a 1A/1A offense, hell it shouldn’t be a 1A/1B offense. It needs to be a 1 and 2 offense, and it’s not me hating, it’s literally the numbers.
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#672 » by Tatumfor2 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 12:35 am

The Comedian wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Maybe they're trying to ease JT's regular season load, but Cs would be better off raising his usage and lowering JB's.

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EDIT:
In Celtics losses:
JB usage - 31.3
JT usage - 29.2

In Celtics wins:
JB usage - 30.8
JT usage - 33.3


It’s so very obvious, too lol.

Celtics record in Tatum’s top 25 usage games is 21-4.

Celtics record in Jaylen’s top 25 usage games is 14-11.

This should not be a 1A/1A offense, hell it shouldn’t be a 1A/1B offense. It needs to be a 1 and 2 offense, and it’s not me hating, it’s literally the numbers.


So... Trade Jaylen?
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Post#673 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jan 7, 2023 3:45 am

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Let's just hope all these accomplishments aren't going straight to his head.
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Post#674 » by themoneyteam2 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 6:32 am

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Let's just hope all these accomplishments aren't going straight to his head.


Huh? Getting a triple double in an NBA regular season game in the first week of January isn’t gonna go to his head lmaooooo
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Post#675 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jan 7, 2023 7:19 am

themoneyteam2 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
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Let's just hope all these accomplishments aren't going straight to his head.


Huh? Getting a triple double in an NBA regular season game in the first week of January isn’t gonna go to his head lmaooooo

Peep the pic. ;)
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Post#676 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Jan 7, 2023 11:41 am

ConstableGeneva wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:
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Let's just hope all these accomplishments aren't going straight to his head.


Huh? Getting a triple double in an NBA regular season game in the first week of January isn’t gonna go to his head lmaooooo

Peep the pic. ;)


No!!! Now you’re a Tatum hater too!!
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Post#677 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Jan 7, 2023 11:58 am

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ConstableGeneva wrote:
themoneyteam2 wrote:
Huh? Getting a triple double in an NBA regular season game in the first week of January isn’t gonna go to his head lmaooooo

Peep the pic. ;)


No!!! Now you’re a Tatum hater too!!

I won't be able to watch many Celtics games if he had that head fr.
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Post#678 » by Feed Your Head » Sat Jan 7, 2023 12:48 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Peep the pic. ;)


No!!! Now you’re a Tatum hater too!!

I won't be able to watch many Celtics games if he had that head fr.


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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#679 » by sam_I_am » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:20 pm

The Comedian wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Maybe they're trying to ease JT's regular season load, but Cs would be better off raising his usage and lowering JB's.

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EDIT:
In Celtics losses:
JB usage - 31.3
JT usage - 29.2

In Celtics wins:
JB usage - 30.8
JT usage - 33.3


It’s so very obvious, too lol.

Celtics record in Tatum’s top 25 usage games is 21-4.

Celtics record in Jaylen’s top 25 usage games is 14-11.

This should not be a 1A/1A offense, hell it shouldn’t be a 1A/1B offense. It needs to be a 1 and 2 offense, and it’s not me hating, it’s literally the numbers.


The mix seems pretty good actually. I agree that the JB usage needs to go down for the team to play it’s best and for him to limit TOs. Right now he is forcing it a bit for individual reasons. He has two competing goals: he wants to be all NBA to get his max contract and he wants to win a ring. Pushing the envelope to reach goal 1 is not always best for the team - a bit of a reminder of 2018 when the whole team was doing that.

JB doesn’t need to be a 27 ppg player every night for the Celtics to be at their best. If he averaged 20-21 (with the occasional 30-40 pt game when required and to keep his hero ball skills sharp) and deferred so guys like Grant White and Brogdon contributed more the team will perform at its best. However, he does need to be a 26 ppg guy to stay a top 15 vote getter for all star game and to make the all nba team in order to get paid the most by staying in Boston - which is best for franchise long term. So for now, I’m okay with him with too high a usage.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Re: Jayson Tatum Thread: Part Deuce – Player of the Month, Oct/Nov. 2022 

Post#680 » by BK_2020 » Sat Jan 7, 2023 2:30 pm

sam_I_am wrote:
The Comedian wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:Maybe they're trying to ease JT's regular season load, but Cs would be better off raising his usage and lowering JB's.

Image

EDIT:
In Celtics losses:
JB usage - 31.3
JT usage - 29.2

In Celtics wins:
JB usage - 30.8
JT usage - 33.3


It’s so very obvious, too lol.

Celtics record in Tatum’s top 25 usage games is 21-4.

Celtics record in Jaylen’s top 25 usage games is 14-11.

This should not be a 1A/1A offense, hell it shouldn’t be a 1A/1B offense. It needs to be a 1 and 2 offense, and it’s not me hating, it’s literally the numbers.


The mix seems pretty good actually. I agree that the JB usage needs to go down for the team to play it’s best and for him to limit TOs. Right now he is forcing it a bit for individual reasons. He has two competing goals: he wants to be all NBA to get his max contract and he wants to win a ring. Pushing the envelope to reach goal 1 is not always best for the team - a bit of a reminder of 2018 when the whole team was doing that.

JB doesn’t need to be a 27 ppg player every night for the Celtics to be at their best. If he averaged 20-21 (with the occasional 30-40 pt game when required and to keep his hero ball skills sharp) and deferred so guys like Grant White and Brogdon contributed more the team will perform at its best. However, he does need to be a 26 ppg guy to stay a top 15 vote getter for all star game and to make the all nba team in order to get paid the most by staying in Boston - which is best for franchise long term. So for now, I’m okay with him with too high a usage.

Jaylen can also stay in Boston by signing a UFA deal with us.

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