Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13)

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Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#1 » by Inigo Montoya » Sun Jan 8, 2023 11:30 am

The Jazz are 2 games under .500 and are 3 losses away from a top-5 pick so this game is another opportunity for a quality loss.

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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#2 » by FranchisePlayer » Sun Jan 8, 2023 6:48 pm

Hopefully Markkanen is not gassed for yesterday's showdown. If he is, this game will be ugly.

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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#3 » by red4hf » Sun Jan 8, 2023 11:37 pm

Kessler with a beastly 5 blocks in the first quarter.......
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#4 » by red4hf » Mon Jan 9, 2023 12:03 am

Hardy needs to just bench the starters for the second half...... They've played horribly.......
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#5 » by FJS » Mon Jan 9, 2023 11:30 am

Our start unit cannot defend. That is.
Vando cannot play C or PF. He is a glue player, and he can do a little bit of everything, but I can't stand to see how many offensive rebounds we concede.

Olynyk or Markkanen need Kessler around to improve a little bit.

And NAW actually try to defend, and this is an improvement about other guards in our roster.
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#6 » by FJS » Mon Jan 9, 2023 11:31 am

And what a weak Fraglant foul II on Clarkson... this is getting ridiculous.
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#7 » by Inigo Montoya » Mon Jan 9, 2023 12:16 pm

If we are chasing wins, Kessler should start imho. He's the only one who really makes a difference defensively.

I don't have an issue with the flagrant foul on Clarkson, to me it looked like a flagrant and we'd want the refs to call it this way if it happened to one of the Jazz players.

Olynyk was good offensively but he still made a lot of bad and sloppy passes. He got injured and may miss some time so Kessler may actually start in the next few games.

We are now 3 games under .500. The Lakers and Minnesota passed us in the standings (Wolves won 4 in a row).
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#8 » by FJS » Mon Jan 9, 2023 1:33 pm

I don't know, It's ok a flagrant type I, but 2...

The league is soft, but things like that make it softer.
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#9 » by FJS » Mon Jan 9, 2023 1:36 pm

The thing is we are sucking big time and still it's only 1,5 games to 6th spot.

West is weaker more and more. Suns, Blazers and us are downing without brakes... Wolves up, but I don't have any confidence in them.
Grizzlies are up... but you play them and frankly... there's not the difference between 2nd (tied with 1st) and 12th.
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#10 » by BigJimFinn » Mon Jan 9, 2023 1:53 pm

FJS wrote:I don't know, It's ok a flagrant type I, but 2...

The league is soft, but things like that make it softer.


The foul itself would have been F1, if he had just taken it and shown "my bad". It was the fake gangsta act he started immediately which gave the refs a reason to get him out of there before he could actually get something going between the teams.
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#11 » by Crunch 99 » Mon Jan 9, 2023 2:39 pm

BigJimFinn wrote:
FJS wrote:I don't know, It's ok a flagrant type I, but 2...

The league is soft, but things like that make it softer.


The foul itself would have been F1, if he had just taken it and shown "my bad". It was the fake gangsta act he started immediately which gave the refs a reason to get him out of there before he could actually get something going between the teams.


Yes, Clarkson certainly didn't help himself with his ongoing antics after the foul. I am wondering whether he could be suspended for the next game.

Wild conspiracy theory: Clarkson gets himself suspended and thus avoids playing traffic cone for Donovan Mitchell tomorrow. :lol:
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Re: Game 43: Utah Jazz (20-22) @ Memphis Grizzlies (25-13) 

Post#12 » by red4hf » Mon Jan 9, 2023 2:42 pm

FJS wrote:Our start unit cannot defend. That is.
Vando cannot play C or PF. He is a glue player, and he can do a little bit of everything, but I can't stand to see how many offensive rebounds we concede.

Olynyk or Markkanen need Kessler around to improve a little bit.

And NAW actually try to defend, and this is an improvement about other guards in our roster.


Vando isn't the problem with defensive rebounding, Olynyk is...... He can't rebound or box-out......

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