Robert Williams, aka "Timelord"

[jmr07019]

That's a lot of skill and shooting for the other team to concede over the course of a series. It cuts both ways.

They will concede 3’s to career 34% shooter Derrick White and do their best to not allow corner 3’s to Al and make him shoot from above the break. Derrick has really cooled off after his hot start. Down to 36% for the season and still in a slump. He shot 31% from 3 last post season. I’m not trying to crucify Derrick just wish Joe would adjust rotations.

How many minutes would you like to see Time Lord play in the playoffs? 20 mpg?

Brooklyn is last in defensive rebounding percentage in the entire NBA. Boston is fourth, tied with Cleveland and just 0.2% off Milwaukee's mark. Boston is 3rd in the NBA in field goals allowed in the restricted area behind Golden State and Miami.

Apparently those giant frontcourts can't even clean up the glass and protect the rim like the tiny Celtics so what good does all that size do for them exactly ?

Rob needs to play because he's a really good basketball player not because we supposedly need him to match other teams' size (we don't). White needs to play because he is one of the best role players in the entire league. Those two things are not exclusive. I don't know why you think they are.

Let’s make a bet. Over under 23 mpg in the post season for Rob assuming he is healthy enough to play. Considering Rob has yet to play 23 minutes in a game and 30 mpg is such a preposterous, unreasonable take it should be an easy win for you. Winner picks the losers avatar picture which will be kept for 6 months. Deal?

[Smart2Nesmith43]

They will concede 3’s to career 34% shooter Derrick White and do their best to not allow corner 3’s to Al and make him shoot from above the break. Derrick has really cooled off after his hot start. Down to 36% for the season and still in a slump. He shot 31% from 3 last post season. I’m not trying to crucify Derrick just wish Joe would adjust rotations.

How many minutes would you like to see Time Lord play in the playoffs? 20 mpg?

Brooklyn is last in defensive rebounding percentage in the entire NBA. Boston is fourth, tied with Cleveland and just 0.2% off Milwaukee's mark. Boston is 3rd in the NBA in field goals allowed in the restricted area behind Golden State and Miami.

Apparently those giant frontcourts can't even clean up the glass and protect the rim like the tiny Celtics so what good does all that size do for them exactly ?

Rob needs to play because he's a really good basketball player not because we supposedly need him to match other teams' size (we don't). White needs to play because he is one of the best role players in the entire league. Those two things are not exclusive. I don't know why you think they are.

Let’s make a bet. Over under 23 mpg in the post season for Rob assuming he is healthy enough to play. Considering Rob has yet to play 23 minutes in a game and 30 mpg is such a preposterous, unreasonable take it should be an easy win for you. Winner picks the losers avatar picture which will be kept for 6 months. Deal?

How did me saying Rob needs to play because he is a good basketball player turn into me thinking he won't see 23 MPG in the playoffs ? I'm so confused right now.

[jmr07019]

How did me saying Rob needs to play because he is a good basketball player turn into me thinking he won't see 23 MPG in the playoffs ? I'm so confused right now.

This was my first post

Last year Rob Williams played 30 mpg. This year he's at 20 mpg. How many mpg would you like to see Rob at in the playoffs? I would love 36 mpg but think it's asking a bit too much so my target is 30 mpg.

Your response led me believe you disagreed with the 30 mpg target. I once again asked how many mpg?

That's a lot of skill and shooting for the other team to concede over the course of a series. It cuts both ways.

They will concede 3’s to career 34% shooter Derrick White and do their best to not allow corner 3’s to Al and make him shoot from above the break. Derrick has really cooled off after his hot start. Down to 36% for the season and still in a slump. He shot 31% from 3 last post season. I’m not trying to crucify Derrick just wish Joe would adjust rotations.

How many minutes would you like to see Time Lord play in the playoffs? 20 mpg?

You wrote a response once again leading me to believe you disagreed with my take but didn't answer the question so I threw out a number. If you don't wanna put hard numbers to it or discuss what rotations should look like thats fine.

[zoyathedestroya]

Heard on Anything is Poddable that Timelord still has a minutes restriction (around 22 mins) despite Coach Joe saying he no longer has one. It's obvious they're being pretty cautious with him. Otherwise, Al shouldn't be playing 33 mins against the Bulls in January.

When it comes to rotations, Joe is more Ime than Brad, who had no issue playing 9-11 guys in the RS.

[shackles10]

Joe’s fighting for a job so I think that’s why he runs a shorter rotation. He realizes he might be more responsible for how well end of bench guys play than the players themselves would be.

[ballup]

Rob hasn't been as pogo sticky so I'm not sure if it's him being health hesitant or more mature on how to judge contests.

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[Homerclease]

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It’s almost as if Rob is way better than Blake/Kornet/Vonleh

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Pretty nuts that the difference between 22nd and 3rd in rebounding is Timelord and 5 boards per game.

[playa-hater]

I have set this for almost 2 years.. J Brown is our 2nd best player but Robert Williams is our 2nd most impactful player.. Not quite the same but I think it's still holding true....

[sam_I_am]

I have set this for almost 2 years.. J Brown is our 2nd best player but Robert Williams is our 2nd most impactful player.. Not quite the same but I think it's still holding true....

His impact hasn’t been that great in terms of wins and losses. The bench play fell off a cliff when he came back. I do assume that is the effect of both the reality of integrating a big piece back into the lineup and him getting used to Mazzulla’s system.

Before: Team record 22-7
After: Team record 9-5

Rob looks great but he hasn’t actually played great yet consistently. We need him to be better and I think it will happen as he gets more into mid season conditioning.

[Wes-J]

I'm still waiting for another Timelord level up. Wondering if we'll ever see that between having to manage him and the injuries that'll inevitably come.

[zoyathedestroya]

Cs 6-1 when Rob plays at least 20 minutes this season. 24-3 in his last 27 RS starts dating back to last season.

Just need Timelord to be healthy enough to play heavy minutes in the playoffs.

[playa-hater]

I have set this for almost 2 years.. J Brown is our 2nd best player but Robert Williams is our 2nd most impactful player.. Not quite the same but I think it's still holding true....

His impact hasn’t been that great in terms of wins and losses. The bench play fell off a cliff when he came back. I do assume that is the effect of both the reality of integrating a big piece back into the lineup and him getting used to Mazzulla’s system.

Before: Team record 22-7
After: Team record 9-5

Rob looks great but he hasn’t actually played great yet consistently. We need him to be better and I think it will happen as he gets more into mid season conditioning.

Our losses has far more to do with the decline of our team shooting than any impact rob made or did not make..

[sam_I_am]

I have set this for almost 2 years.. J Brown is our 2nd best player but Robert Williams is our 2nd most impactful player.. Not quite the same but I think it's still holding true....

His impact hasn’t been that great in terms of wins and losses. The bench play fell off a cliff when he came back. I do assume that is the effect of both the reality of integrating a big piece back into the lineup and him getting used to Mazzulla’s system.

Before: Team record 22-7
After: Team record 9-5

Rob looks great but he hasn’t actually played great yet consistently. We need him to be better and I think it will happen as he gets more into mid season conditioning.

Our losses has far more to do with the decline of our team shooting than any impact rob made or did not make..

Maybe so or maybe having a guy out there who is not a triple threat like everybody else isn’t ideal in Joe’s system. Either way, the Celtics with Rob at his peak played the kind of basketball that wins titles and I suspect that the style we played running out to a 22-7 record does not.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

How did me saying Rob needs to play because he is a good basketball player turn into me thinking he won't see 23 MPG in the playoffs ? I'm so confused right now.

This was my first post

Last year Rob Williams played 30 mpg. This year he's at 20 mpg. How many mpg would you like to see Rob at in the playoffs? I would love 36 mpg but think it's asking a bit too much so my target is 30 mpg.

Cool but that wasn't the post I quoted and responded to so I don't know how that's relevant.

That's a lot of skill and shooting for the other team to concede over the course of a series. It cuts both ways.

They will concede 3’s to career 34% shooter Derrick White and do their best to not allow corner 3’s to Al and make him shoot from above the break. Derrick has really cooled off after his hot start. Down to 36% for the season and still in a slump. He shot 31% from 3 last post season. I’m not trying to crucify Derrick just wish Joe would adjust rotations.

How many minutes would you like to see Time Lord play in the playoffs? 20 mpg?

You wrote a response once again leading me to believe you disagreed with my take but didn't answer the question so I threw out a number. If you don't wanna put hard numbers to it or discuss what rotations should look like thats fine.

I merely pointed out that there's more to basketball than just size and that Horford/Tatum are perfectly capable of handling the other frontcourts you mentioned (you know like they did last year in the playoffs, that is for the two pairings that were good enough to get there). Quite frankly I don't appreciate how you try to put words in my mouth. I never said anything about not playing Rob and you trying to twist my words that way isn't going to change that.

We can discuss playoff rotations once we get there. The Celtics and their competition have yet to qualify, the rosters aren't set because we aren't past the trade deadline and we have no idea who will be available if the Celtics do meet these teams in the playoffs. In the meantime there's zero reason to overtax Williams to chase regular season wins especially since the Celtics are comfortably in first place.

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I wonder if this is a good idea. Wouldn’t it be more taxing to his legs/knees if he needs to keep up with guards/wings? I also don’t think he’s challenged shooters enough when he gets switched. He raises his arm but is too far away (still better than the Kornet Kontest I guess).

[zoyathedestroya]

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Huge, for a team that’s been missing a ton of shots since December.

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[Andrew McCeltic]

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Ayton, Bagley, Jaren Jackson, Bamba, and WCJ went in the top 7 of the 2018 draft, Rob was 27th.

I'd take him over all of them.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Rob hasn't been as pogo sticky so I'm not sure if it's him being health hesitant or more mature on how to judge contests.

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Yeah, watching this too. He's bulked up, too, which is making him a better rebounder, but slow injury recovery, mindset, permanent decrease in quickness and vert, maturity are all possibilities. He's so smart defensively now, and so long, it hasn't reduced his impact.