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Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#661 » by VC15Era » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:32 pm

if at the end of the day we only trade OG and keep Fred/GTJ... In Masai we trust still?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#662 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:35 pm

VC15Era wrote:if at the end of the day we only trade OG and keep Fred/GTJ... In Masai we trust still?

No.

Trading OG would signal, or should signal, that we are going to be rebuilding...which I believe we should be doing.

That means that FVV is gone to the highest bidder as well. Siakam too if we know what's good for us.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#663 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:37 pm

God Squad wrote:I don't think FVV has any value right now. We probably value him more than other teams. OG as we assumed is garnering all the attention compared to FVV.

FVV has been an unequivocal let down.


I disagree. There could be discussions happening all over the NBA but we haven't heard of them yet.

Alternatively, he could have value but just not the value we all think he has. Either way, I'd rather move him now and take what we can get (within reason, of course) than gamble $200M that he regains whatever value we think he may have had before.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#664 » by JShuttlesworth » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:54 pm

Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead
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Post#665 » by HangTime » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:59 pm

Could we get Bones Hyland, in some kind of 3 team trade?
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Post#666 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:59 pm

I wonder if we will finally hear some leaks from the other side now that OG is available. Toronto historically never leaks, but we might start hearing the other teams rumors of what they offer
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#667 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:00 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Trading just OG while both Fred and Gary are gonna be free agents makes 0 sense

Why is this the correct assumption to make?

I'm not assuming that's what's gonna happen I'm just saying if that's the case it's a horrible decision
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Post#668 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:01 pm

HangTime wrote:Could we get Bones Hyland, in some kind of 3 team trade?

Denver wants a FRP for Bones according to reports.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#669 » by douggood » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:02 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead

people clamoring for draft picks, rebuilding through draft forgetting that they also poo poo offers including ayton, cam, jaxon hayes, kira lewis, ziare willaims etc etc who were all lotto picks.

drafting is not a panacea to all ills.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#670 » by God Squad » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:05 pm

Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?
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Post#671 » by T-d0t » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:07 pm

God Squad wrote:Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?

Probably NY since I know they have incompetent management so an unprotected pick from them is more valuable than from PHX
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Post#672 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:09 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Trading just OG while both Fred and Gary are gonna be free agents makes 0 sense

Why is this the correct assumption to make?

I'm not assuming that's what's gonna happen I'm just saying if that's the case it's a horrible decision


Not really, OG has a ton of value and has been rumoured to be unhappy with his role. The assets we get back for OG can accelerate this rebuild.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#673 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:Why is this the correct assumption to make?

I'm not assuming that's what's gonna happen I'm just saying if that's the case it's a horrible decision


Not really, OG has a ton of value and has been rumoured to be unhappy with his role. The assets we get back for OG can accelerate this rebuild.

It's not a rebuild if you keeping Fred
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#674 » by douggood » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

God Squad wrote:Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?

we can also presume memphis package, green + 1 youngish player (ziare williams, aldama, roddy etc) + picks by looking at cap sheets.

nyk probably are including Fournier + 3 picks
phx cam + (saric/shamet/crowder) + 2 picks

it all comes down to pick protections and such
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#675 » by God Squad » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:14 pm

T-d0t wrote:
God Squad wrote:Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?

Probably NY since I know they have incompetent management so an unprotected pick from them is more valuable than from PHX

That's my thinking as well. For me it'll all depend on New Yorks picks/protections. But then again, Phoenix isn't some juggernaut built for now and the future. I can definitely see them failing to reach expectations and trying to "retool". I can see the argument for both trades.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#676 » by God Squad » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:18 pm

douggood wrote:
God Squad wrote:Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?

we can also presume memphis package, green + 1 youngish player (ziare williams, aldama, roddy etc) + picks by looking at cap sheets.

nyk probably are including Fournier + 3 picks
phx cam + (saric/shamet/crowder) + 2 picks

it all comes down to pick protections and such

I'm even sure why we should deal with Memphis if that's their offer. Plus their picks are surely to be late 20s. Plus they're built for now & later. Just seems like a bad deal for us IMO. Especially compared to New York/Phoenix. Does anyone know what Portlands offer would be? They suck now, and likely suck in the future.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#677 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:29 pm

I dont see us going full blow out but I can easily see 2 of Trent/FVV/OG gone by deadline. If OG and Fred are out, we will get a nice package in order to fix this team and move forward.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#678 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:31 pm

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#679 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:32 pm

douggood wrote:
God Squad wrote:Are there any confirmed (or partially) trade packages from each team? So far we know New York and Phoenix's are interested in OG. So far we have the framework for a New York and Phoenix trade package.

Whos offer do y'all like better? Obviously hold out so they both can increase. But of the two, who would you rather deal with?

we can also presume memphis package, green + 1 youngish player (ziare williams, aldama, roddy etc) + picks by looking at cap sheets.

nyk probably are including Fournier + 3 picks
phx cam + (saric/shamet/crowder) + 2 picks

it all comes down to pick protections and such


Is Memphis an actual rumour or a Bill Simmons tweet?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II 

Post#680 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:35 pm

We're doing this Klutch Red Wedding. I can feel it. OG out. Trent for Poeltl. Fred for Orlando crap bag. Nurse canned in April. Koloko stays because he's cool with Pascal and Masai.

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