Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=4M5tf4ASdwO5HUp_Z6VIKA
Hell ya. I want all of this smoke.
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Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=4M5tf4ASdwO5HUp_Z6VIKA
t54zhao wrote:What kind of picks should we want in this trade
Orlando:
FVV
Toronto:
Suggs
Gary Harris
Raptors Realtor wrote:Dalek wrote:Denver has always wanted OG Anunoby to pair with Jokic since last season and this year rumors have been floated. You look at how good Aaron Gordon has become, OG gives them a real shot a title. Denver has no real draft capital, so it would have to be a deal for players, but luckily Denver has guys on long-term or rookie deals.
Michael Porter Jr.
Bones Hyland
Christian Braun
2029 FRP from Nuggets
OG Anunoby
Gary Trent Jr.
There is a huge risk to take on MPJ at his salary, but when healthy he is an elite scorer and only age 24. Bones Hyland is not the defender Trent is -- not even close, but he is a dynamic scorer. Braun is a really nice two-way prospect to add and the 2029 pick will have value once Jokic is done.
To me this is a no brainer for Denver if they want the title now. Toronto adds some guys to space the floor for Scottie, and can compete now if we retain Siakam.
Nah Porter is injury prone and on a terrible contract, and Bones although offensively intriguing is a nightmare on defense, and there are reports of some character issues.
Dalek wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:Dalek wrote:Denver has always wanted OG Anunoby to pair with Jokic since last season and this year rumors have been floated. You look at how good Aaron Gordon has become, OG gives them a real shot a title. Denver has no real draft capital, so it would have to be a deal for players, but luckily Denver has guys on long-term or rookie deals.
Michael Porter Jr.
Bones Hyland
Christian Braun
2029 FRP from Nuggets
OG Anunoby
Gary Trent Jr.
There is a huge risk to take on MPJ at his salary, but when healthy he is an elite scorer and only age 24. Bones Hyland is not the defender Trent is -- not even close, but he is a dynamic scorer. Braun is a really nice two-way prospect to add and the 2029 pick will have value once Jokic is done.
To me this is a no brainer for Denver if they want the title now. Toronto adds some guys to space the floor for Scottie, and can compete now if we retain Siakam.
Nah Porter is injury prone and on a terrible contract, and Bones although offensively intriguing is a nightmare on defense, and there are reports of some character issues.
Porter Jr. is an injury risk for sure but I see the 50/40/80 and the fact that Denver is such a pass heavy team, he could easily be a 22-25 PPG scorer on Toronto. I do think Denver has a smart front office and doesn't think the injury issues with MPJ will persist in his career, otherwise why risk maxing him out?
I don't know about Bones having character issues, but he was a great scorer in college and his game has translated well to the NBA. He just is a bit limited in the Denver system.
Overall, I am just curious about this deal because of Masai's history with Denver, their interest in OG and short title window. While MPJ and Bones aren't defensive players, they are more ballers like Scottie is. I think Toronto lacks that kind of creativity.
ItsDanger wrote:Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=4M5tf4ASdwO5HUp_Z6VIKA
When they took Sharpe, I assumed he would be traded. Doesn't match Dame timeline, Simons is blocking him.
Los_29 wrote:Dalek wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:
Nah Porter is injury prone and on a terrible contract, and Bones although offensively intriguing is a nightmare on defense, and there are reports of some character issues.
Porter Jr. is an injury risk for sure but I see the 50/40/80 and the fact that Denver is such a pass heavy team, he could easily be a 22-25 PPG scorer on Toronto. I do think Denver has a smart front office and doesn't think the injury issues with MPJ will persist in his career, otherwise why risk maxing him out?
I don't know about Bones having character issues, but he was a great scorer in college and his game has translated well to the NBA. He just is a bit limited in the Denver system.
Overall, I am just curious about this deal because of Masai's history with Denver, their interest in OG and short title window. While MPJ and Bones aren't defensive players, they are more ballers like Scottie is. I think Toronto lacks that kind of creativity.
Check out MPJ's contract. Once you do, you will have zero interest in him. LOL.
Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=4M5tf4ASdwO5HUp_Z6VIKA
Dalek wrote:ItsDanger wrote:Bruin wrote:?s=46&t=4M5tf4ASdwO5HUp_Z6VIKA
When they took Sharpe, I assumed he would be traded. Doesn't match Dame timeline, Simons is blocking him.
I don't see Sharpe that way long-term. He was BPA and killed in his draft workouts. Simons is more of a scoring PG but has to play a different role with Dame. Sharpe is a classic SG. Sharpe and Simons should work well together in time, and Dame is probably at the end of time with Portland if they don't start making a run for the title this year.
It would be one huge gamble to draft a lotto player for a future trade. Too much risk in that type of planning.
Dalek wrote:Los_29 wrote:Dalek wrote:
Porter Jr. is an injury risk for sure but I see the 50/40/80 and the fact that Denver is such a pass heavy team, he could easily be a 22-25 PPG scorer on Toronto. I do think Denver has a smart front office and doesn't think the injury issues with MPJ will persist in his career, otherwise why risk maxing him out?
I don't know about Bones having character issues, but he was a great scorer in college and his game has translated well to the NBA. He just is a bit limited in the Denver system.
Overall, I am just curious about this deal because of Masai's history with Denver, their interest in OG and short title window. While MPJ and Bones aren't defensive players, they are more ballers like Scottie is. I think Toronto lacks that kind of creativity.
Check out MPJ's contract. Once you do, you will have zero interest in him. LOL.
I know the max deal. It is brutal, but if he is healthy he is worth the money. He isn't just a three point shooter. He is 6'10 and can score from three levels. I have watched a few Nuggets games this year and he looks like he is getting more athletic. But, you are probably right and cost and risk might be too high.
Los_29 wrote:Dalek wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Check out MPJ's contract. Once you do, you will have zero interest in him. LOL.
I know the max deal. It is brutal, but if he is healthy he is worth the money. He isn't just a three point shooter. He is 6'10 and can score from three levels. I have watched a few Nuggets games this year and he looks like he is getting more athletic. But, you are probably right and cost and risk might be too high.
Even when he is healthy he's not worth that money. That's the problem.
WuTang_OG wrote:
levon wrote:Probably overstaying my welcome here but if I was Toronto, I'd shed FVV, re-sign GTJ, and I'd hold on to OG+ to buy instead of sell, sort of like the AD deal and their play for Durant last summer. Someone amazing is going to get disgruntled soon, it's the NBA. Luka's already given the Mavs a timeline.
ruckus wrote:Lol. Kyrie doing Kyrie things.