2023 Trade Deadline Thread: Conley/VanVleet/Lowry/etc. (Updated thread)

[ejftw]

I asked yesterday if a motivated Lowry could still be there? Turns out no if you can go by Heat fans. Sheesh they’re all but begging us to take him. Contract aside he’s out of shape again and has some lingering knee issue.

No way this is real.

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Whether we get a PG or not, if Dallas wants that swap, we have to do it, no questions asked.

[esqtvd]

"The Mavs have better hopes of dealing Wood, which, granted, might seem a little rash, seeing as how he just got here last summer. His numbers (18.1 points, 8.4 rebounds) also look more than respectable, particularly for a Mavs big man. Yet these rumors persist, suggesting other concerns.

Actually, we’ve known for months that Wood hasn’t been a great fit. Jason Kidd wouldn’t put him in the starting lineup early on despite evidence of offensive chemistry with Luka. The problem, as always with Wood, is his defense, or lack thereof. Kidd no doubt practiced a little tough love, dangling a starting role if Wood improved his D. He’s certainly athletic enough, and he appears at least somewhat willing. Yet his defensive rating this season is slightly worse than his career average."

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/mavericks/2023/02/08/should-mavs-move-christian-wood-at-trade-deadline-to-avoid-another-jalen-brunson-mistake/

[ejftw]

Am I the only one who thinks PG will convince Russ and the FO that he's a fit here.

[KL2]

Of course we’re going to be interested in Westbrick.

It’s going from bad to worse.

[Scoundreldays]

Am I the only one who thinks PG will convince Russ and the FO that he's a fit here.

I'm scared at the moment lol

[KL2]

He’s for sure going to recruit him. Now because of him we’re going to have Russ and Jackson. Can’t wait for that 5 guard lineup Lue is going to put out.

[esqtvd]

I think they think we can't win as presently comprised
I think Kawhi thinks we can't win as presently comprised

he doesn't like working this hard every night, you can tell


Kawhi has player option for 2024-25 when Ballmer's new Pleasure Dome opens

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[donemilio21]

Am I the only one who thinks PG will convince Russ and the FO that he's a fit here.

I'm scared at the moment lol

New PG experiment Westbrook over Wall.

I see the appeal to the FO. They make a move to get a new PG who is pretty bad but a former MVP for free, rather than giving up picks for another guard who might bolt in the off-season.

No one was gonna give an FRP for either Conley or Beasley. We got unlucky that Lakers were willing get both for a FRP.

[Ballings7]

I'd lean towards Russ' not working out here.. but who knows - I like his competitive spirit, but he isn't consistent. Unless he comes off the bench and finishes the game selectively.

So.. worst cases:

Westbrook
Mann
George
Kawhi
Zubac

Spacing takes a hit there. And then if they do...

Westbrook
George
Kawhi
Morris
Zubac

Not feeling it. Getting Westbrook would be top-level a desperation move..

[MartinToVaught]

I've always liked Russ, but I can't watch the Westbrook/Wall/Reggie lineups that Lue is going to insist on playing every single game no matter how bad they are.

This is really feeling like the end of Lob City all over again: terrible coaching, clueless front office, the rest of the league improving around us while we just get older and slower, and no way out without trading the stars and rebuilding.

[MartinToVaught]

He’s for sure going to recruit him. Now because of him we’re going to have Russ and Jackson. Can’t wait for that 5 guard lineup Lue is going to put out.

Handing roster spots to all of PG's friends is getting really old, especially when PG himself doesn't show up in any big games to warrant all this special treatment.

[Scoundreldays]

He’s for sure going to recruit him. Now because of him we’re going to have Russ and Jackson. Can’t wait for that 5 guard lineup Lue is going to put out.

Handing roster spots to all of PG's friends is getting really old, especially when PG himself doesn't show up in any big games to warrant all this special treatment.

Honestly if Russ comes we need to find a smart player to cancel out Russ' boneheaded plays. On the positive side we have decent spacing for him and he does bring high energy. But a big risk.

[Ballings7]

Not really sure what Gordon would do.. unless 1-2 of the scoring guards is going out in a deal (Jackson or Powell or Kennard), where Gordon would replace that overall scoring spark and general experience. Even so, there'd still be kind of a log jam like now?

I wouldn't mind him at all as a talent upgrade over Jackson or Kennard, though, he can still ball as a spark scorer, legit shooter and is steady. Like his game. Also can be offensive insurance if one of Kawhi/PG are out for 2-3 weeks or something, or a few games in the POs - you never know.

Gordon can't play the point and is a 37% career 3-point shooter [35% this year]. He can't replace either one.

Never said anything about Gordon playing PG.

I'd take Gordon's overall scoring talent and steadiness over Reggie at this point in a playoff series. Gordon's been on a low-lottery Houston team for a few years, and while has been a professional, he is not on a well balanced team that will get him better shots and options to pass to when the opportunity is there, or a disciplined veteran defensive team.

However, 2021 (playoffs and on)-2022 Luke Kennard, if he still has it in him - I would not take Gordon over him.

Reggie, I'm on the fence on if he's going to play like he did in the 2021 playoffs or not (lesser minutes or not, spark, clutch)... we'll see.

But one of those guys would likely be on the outs if they bring in Gordon in a trade.

Powell over Gordon? Definite no.

But I wouldn't mind Gordon if he came on, just would have to see who goes out for him.

[TucsonClip]

Absolutely not to Westbrook.

I do think we need a down hill PG, but he's not it.

[Ballings7]

I asked yesterday if a motivated Lowry could still be there? Turns out no if you can go by Heat fans. Sheesh they’re all but begging us to take him. Contract aside he’s out of shape again and has some lingering knee issue.

No way this is real.

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Whether we get a PG or not, if Dallas wants that swap, we have to do it, no questions asked.

I'd do that deal in a second.. need more size and talent up front to compete better against Denver and Memphis. Wood is a capable shot blocker at least.

I'd be surprised if Dallas helps out this team though.. I see Wood going to the East somewhere.

[esqtvd]

Not really sure what Gordon would do.. unless 1-2 of the scoring guards is going out in a deal (Jackson or Powell or Kennard), where Gordon would replace that overall scoring spark and general experience. Even so, there'd still be kind of a log jam like now?

I wouldn't mind him at all as a talent upgrade over Jackson or Kennard, though, he can still ball as a spark scorer, legit shooter and is steady. Like his game. Also can be offensive insurance if one of Kawhi/PG are out for 2-3 weeks or something, or a few games in the POs - you never know.

Gordon can't play the point and is a 37% career 3-point shooter [35% this year]. He can't replace either one.

Never said anything about Gordon playing PG.

I'd take Gordon's overall scoring talent and steadiness over Reggie at this point in a playoff series. Gordon's been on a low-lottery Houston team for a few years, and while has been a professional, he is not on a well balanced team that will get him better shots and options to pass to when the opportunity is there, or a disciplined veteran defensive team.

However, 2021 (playoffs and on)-2022 Luke Kennard, if he still has it in him - I would not take Gordon over him.

Reggie, I'm on the fence on if he's going to play like he did in the 2021 playoffs or not (lesser minutes or not, spark, clutch)... we'll see.

But one of those guys would likely be on the outs if they bring in Gordon in a trade.

Powell over Gordon? Definite no.

But I wouldn't mind Gordon if he came on, just would have to see who goes out for him.

Reggie's only value to the Clippers at this point is at the 1. Mann, Kennard and especially Powell have the 2 covered. But none of them can play PG worth a lick.

I'd take Gordon's overall scoring talent and steadiness over Reggie at this point in a playoff series.

Plus PG is the starting 2, so we're really logjammed there. And Mr. June was not just good he was off the hook.

No player has made more 3s this postseason than Jackson, who has made 46 of his 56 3s in June while shooting 43.4 percent from distance. Jackson has averaged 19.8 points per game in June on 51 percent from the field, and the Clippers have outscored opponents by 48 points in Jackson’s 115 fourth-quarter minutes this month.

https://theathletic.com/2682087/2021/06/30/how-reggie-jackson-aka-mr-june-has-helped-clippers-get-through-postseason-this-team-has-empowered-me/

[LamarWho]

Russ will be in a Clippers uniform next week, I can totally see it. It'll be fun to see the "who's got the dumbest TO tonight" contest between Russ and PG every game.

[KL2]

Russ will be in a Clippers uniform next week, I can totally see it. It'll be fun to see the "who's got the dumbest TO tonight" contest between Russ and PG every game.

The pain.

[KL2]

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[nickhx2]

well you don't need more than one heart to live so maybe they can give us hartenstein back?!