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2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm

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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#241 » by MasterGMer » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:05 am

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MasterGMer wrote:I agree. JI is a total X Factor. But if we do play him 30+ minutes, which position should we play him? Paolo is 4. Franz is 3. So we play Paolo at 5 and JI at 4? Or JI at 5? Paolo and Franz are going to start (Hopefully). If we do play JI big minutes, which position should we play him?


JI now imo is best suited for 4/5 but has usually played 3/4 so we'll see. I also don't mind Franz playing 2/3 since I think he can stay with a good number of SGs and Paolo doesn't always play like a 4.


If Franz plays 2, that means Gary Harris will be on the bench, who is also our best 3 point shooter. I honestly like this lineup.

Fultz/Franz/JI/Paolo/Wendell

But where can we find shooting? Fultz is horrible at 3 and JI is streaky. Paolo is suffering from long range and Wendell is 1 for 11 today

I like the idea of defense. But on offense, I think this lineup might suffer. Just my opinion
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#242 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:08 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Was this as painful as you guys to watch on tv as it was for me to watch live?


Yes it was. Sorry you had to watch that. Hopefully you had fun nonetheless.

It was actually pretty fun. We fans really didn’t have anything to cheer for in the second half but it was great seeing the team. It was a sight to see for sure.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#243 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Was this as painful as you guys to watch on tv as it was for me to watch live?

Worse watching it on TV IMO. At least you had the atmosphere and the in-person entertainment with everything going on. I actually hate going to games as I get more distracted and I miss all of the camera angles. Hope you had a great time though. Tickets (and parking and food) aren't cheap :lol:

The atmosphere was pretty great and the entertainers really did keep us engaged. The game on the other hand…
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Post#244 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:19 am

Good loss. WCJ foul trouble & struggles, along with somewhat questionable decision making by Coach Mose (tanking commands from the FO) lost us the game.

Nice to see Paolo & Franz get some pts on the board
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Post#245 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:20 am

My observations from the game:
First, Paolo is huge. I can’t even begin to explain to you guys how big this dude is. He seemed like the biggest guy in the court. It is ridiculous.

Secondly, he is a lot better defender then I gave him credit for. He is really good. Very good at stopping by drives, great man to man defender not so much team. Nobody was really noticed in this game on either team until Hali took over. Watching Paolo with the second unit was weird, I think Franz have better chemistry with them.

The team gave up in the 3rd quarter. They defended the paint in the the first half and came out absolutely flat in the second. We missed JI’s defense so much. He has been given us a 3rd quarter spark and we needed that today.

This team CANNOT shoot. It is really strange watching it live, everything is short or drift left or right. They allowed their shooting woes to affect this game. Indiana realized that we had no rim protector and decided to have a layup drill in the second half. It was bad.

Markelle was the only one who cared and. WCJ’s foul trouble was evident. We needed a rebounder and well, we got what we got.

I think we all know this but we need 3 point shooting and and a rim protector badly. That has to be our main focus in the off season.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#246 » by SD2042 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:26 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Was this as painful as you guys to watch on tv as it was for me to watch live?



It can be painful one way, teachable moments, and a hugh reality check. For me, it continues to show how far this team has to go in this rebuilding process. There are a lot of issues that need to be address. Plus this loss is good for the Magic to help their chances in the draft lottery and helps keep Indiana away from the top five in the draft lottery if possible.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#247 » by MasterGMer » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:29 am

ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:My observations from the game:
First, Paolo is huge. I can’t even begin to explain to you guys how big this dude is. He seemed like the biggest guy in the court. It is ridiculous.

Secondly, he is a lot better defender then I gave him credit for. He is really good. Very good at stopping by drives, great man to man defender not so much team. Nobody was really noticed in this game on either team until Hali took over. Watching Paolo with the second unit was weird, I think Franz have better chemistry with them.

The team gave up in the 3rd quarter. They defended the paint in the the first half and came out absolutely flat in the second. We missed JI’s defense so much. He has been given us a 3rd quarter spark and we needed that today.

This team CANNOT shoot. It is really strange watching it live, everything is short or go the left or right. They allowed their shooting woes to affect this game. Indians realized that we had no rim protector and decided to have a layup drill in the second half. It was bad.

Markelle was the only one who cared and. WCJ’s foul trouble was evident. We needed a rebounder and well, we got what we got.

I think we all know this but we need 3 point shooting and and a rim protector badly. That has to be our main focus in the off season.


Effort is definitely the big reason. But they need to box out. We also have ZERO RIM PROTECTION, ZERO!!

Plus we could not make 3s. We were shooting 20% from 3. Are you serious?

This team might be young. But if we ever want to be in the Playoff, we need to play better, all of them.

This loss is bad. With a tough road stretch coming up. We could waive good bye to the Play In Dream
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Post#248 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:36 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:My observations from the game:
First, Paolo is huge. I can’t even begin to explain to you guys how big this dude is. He seemed like the biggest guy in the court. It is ridiculous.

Secondly, he is a lot better defender then I gave him credit for. He is really good. Very good at stopping by drives, great man to man defender not so much team. Nobody was really noticed in this game on either team until Hali took over. Watching Paolo with the second unit was weird, I think Franz have better chemistry with them.

The team gave up in the 3rd quarter. They defended the paint in the the first half and came out absolutely flat in the second. We missed JI’s defense so much. He has been given us a 3rd quarter spark and we needed that today.

This team CANNOT shoot. It is really strange watching it live, everything is short or go the left or right. They allowed their shooting woes to affect this game. Indians realized that we had no rim protector and decided to have a layup drill in the second half. It was bad.

Markelle was the only one who cared and. WCJ’s foul trouble was evident. We needed a rebounder and well, we got what we got.

I think we all know this but we need 3 point shooting and and a rim protector badly. That has to be our main focus in the off season.


Effort is definitely the big reason. But they need to box out. We also have ZERO RIM PROTECTION, ZERO!!

Plus we could not make 3s. We were shooting 20% from 3. Are you serious?

This team might be young. But if we ever want to be in the Playoff, we need to play better, all of them.

This loss is bad. With a tough road stretch coming up. We could waive good bye to the Play In Dream

Very true.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#249 » by eyriq » Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:02 am

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eyriq wrote:Franz and Paolo with the riveting post game interview
Not watching, what do you mean?
I was being sarcastic haha, they were pretty annoyed it seemed
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#250 » by pepe1991 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 6:41 am

This is type of game where team who has massive size adventage should just destroy Pacers. But Magic have no funcional benefits of their size.

This is Pacers starting 5:
6'11
6'5
6'5
6'4
6'3

Their bench is made out of : 6'10, 6'8. 6'0, 6'5 and 6'5 guys.

Those guys aside of Turner and Smith are normal sized people .

In sense they are anti - Magic team. Bunch of 6'3-6'5 people who can shoot.


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Post#251 » by drsd » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:42 am

mattyBoi wrote:For two months now the Magic have been playing .500 basketball, last 8 games have alternated Ws and Ls back and forth. Just cant get ahead.


This was a very bad loss. A win here and Orlando upgrades to the sixth worst team, and only 3 back from the play-in. Instead we got this.

Let's exclude that Carter had probably the worst game of his career, that is he was bad on both sides of the ball, and let's exclude that G-Harris is again proving the Magic is playing 4 on 5 in half-court, this game is yet another example that Suggs cannot play SG. If he cannot be off-the ball on the bench, he certainly should not be off-the ball as a starter.

Yes Fultz has small warts in his game, but he is Orlando's best PG. And then, for the bench keep either Anthony or Suggs. Move on from the other.
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#252 » by drsd » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:45 am

This loss is simply: the Pacers bench crushed the Magic bench. Really nice games from Mathurin and Nwora, unfortunately.




The Magic did get some Goga in this game!

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Post#253 » by drsd » Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:49 am

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ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Was this as painful as you guys to watch on tv as it was for me to watch live?



It can be painful one way, teachable moments, and a hugh reality check. For me, it continues to show how far this team has to go in this rebuilding process. There are a lot of issues that need to be address.


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This bad loss simply reveals that Orlando needs a starting and back-up SG. It was a nice lesson for management. This are looking up!


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Post#254 » by pepe1991 » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:12 am

Haliburton 14 assists. Magic 16....
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Post#255 » by zaymon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:47 am

1. Fultz is not a pg. Haliburton is a pg. Fultz is a player without position who tries to mask himself as a selfless pg most of the time but pumps his stats when the game is lost like a chucker. Disgusting really.

2. Mosley realized that playing Fultz and Banchero together without shooters is a bad idea. Well done Jamal, only took you 50+ games to get it.

3. In theory WCJ is perfect next to Wagner and Banchero but i am starting to feel deep down he is a loser. Cant keep his composure, loses focus, acts like he is 5 with emotions getting the best of him sometimes. I wrote it some time ago, but maybe Wagner/Banchero/Isaac is the way to go next season. Its scary to depend on JI health though.

4. Indiana glued to our only shooters. Gary missed some open ones, but also he didnt have much space most of the game, and there were no actions to get him open. Its hard to score when your pg cant create open look for anyone, and there are no actions drawn for you. Still not a good game offensively but he locked Hield for most of the game.

5. Bol is scared to shoot and has zero awareness.

6. Someone needs to teach Paolo how a quality possesion looks. We have coaching staff ?
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Re: 2022-2023 Regular Season Game 61: Indiana Pacers (26-35) at Orlando Magic (25-35) - 7pm 

Post#256 » by Ralof » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:32 am

Nothing to worry about the game itself,pacers are probably the best young team in nba,even better than thunder,they are simply amazing and exactly how you wanna build an nba franchise.
real young cornerstone(perfect offensive engine) + multiple amazing shooters+a center like turner+another good young prospect in mathurin + another top 10 coming +a super coach;just kudos to them.

very good Banchero game,avoiding those terrible long 2s and iso,attaccking in transition and taking the ball next to the rim as much as possible at halfcourt,that should be his game,with more pick and roll action as a roller.
loved also his defense,his glimpses of rim protection are quite underated,could be a really team player if he dedicate 100% to this,to be an all-arounder.

we paid for G.Harris and Wendell bad shooting night,it happens,anyway good effort,just hat off to this pacers team.
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Post#257 » by Ralof » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:38 am

pepe1991 wrote:This is type of game where team who has massive size adventage should just destroy Pacers. But Magic have no funcional benefits of their size.

This is Pacers starting 5:
6'11
6'5
6'5
6'4
6'3

Their bench is made out of : 6'10, 6'8. 6'0, 6'5 and 6'5 guys.

Those guys aside of Turner and Smith are normal sized people .

In sense they are anti - Magic team. Bunch of 6'3-6'5 people who can shoot.


Watching Fultz and Haliburton is like watching Ferrari vs FIat Meriva. They are both made in italy, that's where any similarities end.


they are on the right side of the(nba) story.
3 point shooting,spacing,super fast pace,small ball,ecc.

we are on the WeHam part of nba story,tall ball,long,athletic,can't shoot.
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Post#258 » by drsd » Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:38 am

MasterGMer wrote:If Franz plays 2, that means Gary Harris will be on the bench, who is also our best 3 point shooter. I honestly like this lineup.


What I "like" about this is that Suggs is no longer bricking shots as the back-up 2-guard. What I don't "like" about this is that this makes Suggs a 3rd stringer who would get basically no minutes playing time.

How does that help Suggs' development?

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Post#259 » by Skybox » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:12 pm

pepe1991 wrote:This is type of game where team who has massive size adventage should just destroy Pacers. But Magic have no funcional benefits of their size.

This is Pacers starting 5:
6'11
6'5
6'5
6'4
6'3

Their bench is made out of : 6'10, 6'8. 6'0, 6'5 and 6'5 guys.

Those guys aside of Turner and Smith are normal sized people .

In sense they are anti - Magic team. Bunch of 6'3-6'5 people who can shoot.


Watching Fultz and Haliburton is like watching Ferrari vs FIat Meriva. They are both made in italy, that's where any similarities end.


In theory, we should be trade partners based on redundancy and needs.
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Post#260 » by Bergmaniac » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:10 pm

Great loss for the tank (and resting Isaac in the second game after the ASB which wasn't a back to back strongly implies that front office wouldn't mind several more of these). Pretty painful to watch though. Pacers' ball movement and player movement was miles better, we should have lost by more tbh. Haliburton is incredible.

Wendell had a nightmare, Harris bricked everything after his early 3. This game is a textbook example that Fultz is very, very far from an elite playmaker. His effort was again very good, but the gap between him and Haliburton in vision and passing skills is vast. Even McConnell is significintly better at these areas than him. Paolo had a decent statline in the end, but his jumpshot continues to be MIA and we were actually a lot better offensively when he was on the bench. At least we actually run a few pick and rolls with him as the roll mаn for a change.

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