TOP 10 NBA players this season

Ugalde · Post #21 » by **Ugalde** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:50 am

BIGJ1ER wrote:
Bum Adebayo wrote:
BIGJ1ER wrote:
Is this a troll list?

No Curry, Giannis outside the 10, WAGNER as an HM?!?!? Kyrie top 10???????

I actually like JJJ as an HM shout, and think he's been wildly underrated since he took AD's AS spot, but I'm not genuinely not sure if you're trolling.

Wagner has been the 12th best player this season, thanks to his amazing defense, very underrated.
As for the others, I have Giannis at 11 and curry at 31.

His Amazing defence? He's ok on that end but what makes you say he's amazing? If you're choosing a great defender then why not Bam?

What logical reasoning is there for having Curry at 31? I'd love to hear it

lol bro why are you responding to him? just block him and call it a day.

rate_ · Post #22 » by **rate_** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:06 am

These are the TOP 10 players in average of ranks in EPM, RAPTOR, LEBRON, GmSc/Poss, & BPM rates:

TOP 10 in PER (from b-ref):

TOP 10 in Win Shares (b-ref):

The 1st rankings looks very accurate compared to the rest of the lists I see here. And those metrics have a low prediction error, especially compared to PER and Win Shares.

JasonStern · Post #23 » by **JasonStern** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:59 am

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
JasonStern wrote:Dame is towards the bottom of the top ten, but definitely top ten. And the Blazers rewarded him with... Ugh.

I understand if you don't have Dame in your top ten if every player was healthy and played every game, but he has had one hell of a season being the #1 option on an otherwise bad team.

does winning games not matter anymore,

How many wins do you think a team like Portland (with Drew Eubanks as a starting C for 20 games) should win?

Not saying team record shouldn't play a factor. But Jerami Grant was the Pistons best player. And on the Blazers, he has been fairly average. If the best player on a bad team (despite defenses focusing on them) narrative was 100% true, where are the Gordon Hayward 50+ point games?

metalinguss · Post #24 » by **metalinguss** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:17 am

Jokic
Embiid
Luka
Giannis
Tatum
Steph
KD
Dame
SGA
LeBron

HMs: Butler, AD, Mitchell, Zion

NBA4Lyfe · Post #25 » by **NBA4Lyfe** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 8:56 am

where are you getting your stats from, james harden has clearly been a top 10 player this year

Read on Twitter

?s=20

phillynative · Post #26 » by **phillynative** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:32 am

Embiid

Giannis
Jokic
Tatum
Luka
Mitchell
KD
Shai
Lillard
Harden

SkyHookFTW · Post #27 » by **SkyHookFTW** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:39 am

Jokic (1a)
Embiid (1b)
Giannis
Steph
Luka
Jimmy
Dame
KD
Tatum
AD

HM: SGA, Harden, JJJ

mariller · Post #28 » by **mariller** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:42 am

JasonStern wrote:
NBA4Lyfe wrote:
JasonStern wrote:Dame is towards the bottom of the top ten, but definitely top ten. And the Blazers rewarded him with... Ugh.

I understand if you don't have Dame in your top ten if every player was healthy and played every game, but he has had one hell of a season being the #1 option on an otherwise bad team.

does winning games not matter anymore,

How many wins do you think a team like Portland (with Drew Eubanks as a starting C for 20 games) should win?

Not saying team record shouldn't play a factor. But Jerami Grant was the Pistons best player. And on the Blazers, he has been fairly average. If the best player on a bad team (despite defenses focusing on them) narrative was 100% true, where are the Gordon Hayward 50+ point games?

It is really tiring that Portland fans cannot correlate (or choose to ignore) the level of Dame's contract and possibility for Portland to field quality roster. You really cannot sign a supermax and then **** on your team for not making roster better.

Jadoogar · Post #29 » by **Jadoogar** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:50 pm

Giannis
Jokic
Embiid
Luka
Tatum
_______
Curry
KD
________ (games played, otherwise would be in the top tier)
SGA
Anthony Davis
Donovon Mitchell

_NoMas · Post #30 » by **_NoMas** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:51 pm

(No order):

Tatum
Luka
Giannis
Embiid
Jokic
KD
Lebron
SGA
Dame
Curry

HMs: AD, Kawhi, Sabonis, Mitchell, Jimmy

Post #31 » by **cupcakesnake** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:32 pm

Jokic
Embiid, Giannis
Luka, Tatum, Butler, Lillard, Shai
Curry, Durant

AD and Lebron can fight Curry and Durant for those last 2 spots. None of them have hit 50 games yet and most of them aren't done missing games. I might just give it to whichever 2 of these 4 finish with the most games.

Honourable mention: Mitchell, Siakam, Kawhi, Sabonis, Bam, Harden.

NZB2323 · Post #32 » by **NZB2323** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:33 pm

rate_ wrote:These are the TOP 10 players in average of ranks in EPM, RAPTOR, LEBRON, GmSc/Poss, & BPM rates:

TOP 10 in PER (from b-ref):

TOP 10 in Win Shares (b-ref):

The 1st rankings looks very accurate compared to the rest of the lists I see here. And those metrics have a low prediction error, especially compared to PER and Win Shares.

Aren’t all of those stats per game stats or per minute stats? It’s hard for me to put AD, Curry, and Durant, who have only played 42 games, ahead of Tatum who has played 63 games.

I guess you could say those stats are more predictive, but Tatum outplayed Durant in the playoffs last year and made the Finals, and AD got injured the last time he was in the playoffs.

I can give the benefit of the doubt to Curry, but not AD and Durant.

iggymcfrack · Post #33 » by **iggymcfrack** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:47 pm

1. Jokic

(gap)

2. Embiid
3. Giannis
4. Tatum
5. Luka

(gap)

6. Curry
7. Dame
8. Jimmy Buckets
9. KD
10. SGA

iggymcfrack · Post #34 » by **iggymcfrack** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:57 pm

Edited my list to move KD from 7 down to 9. He’s now officially played less games than Anthony Davis and it’s not like it’s a fluke. He misses a ton of time every year. Plus I’m really not sure if he’s even better than Dame and Jimmy when healthy. Dame’s been on a tear all season and his advanced metrics are incredible. Jimmy has pretty similar box stats to KD and we all know that he’s miles ahead as a defender. Much better record of coming up clutch in the playoffs too.

HardenGoat · Post #35 » by **HardenGoat** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:19 pm

NBA4Lyfe wrote:where are you getting your stats from, james harden has clearly been a top 10 player this year

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Sixers have two players in the top 10. Bench is better. They are rounding into form at the right time. We might be witnessing something really special this year!

timO · Post #36 » by **timO** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:54 pm

joker
biid
luka
anteto
shai
butler
tatum
hali
ja
mitchell

WillyJakkz · Post #37 » by **WillyJakkz** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:02 pm

rate_ wrote:In no order

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
AD
Steph
Luka
Jimmy
KD
Dame
Tatum

HM: SGA, LeBron, Haliburton, Kawhi, Spida, Ja

Lol Lillard and Butler over LeBron. Old Man Logan is having a much better season than those 2.

JasonStern · Post #38 » by **JasonStern** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:11 pm

mariller wrote:It is really tiring that Portland fans cannot correlate (or choose to ignore) the level of Dame's contract and possibility for Portland to field quality roster. You really cannot sign a supermax and then **** on your team for not making roster better.

Google Neil Olshey.

rate_ · Post #39 » by **rate_** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:16 pm

WillyJakkz wrote:
Spoiler:
rate_ wrote:In no order

Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
AD
Steph
Luka
Jimmy
KD
Dame
Tatum

HM: SGA, LeBron, Haliburton, Kawhi, Spida, Ja

Lol Lillard and Butler over LeBron. Old Man Logan is having a much better season than those 2.

In what way? Most of the advanced metrics vs LeBron favors Jimmy/Dame. These are the same metrics that people use for Jokic over Embiid.

CobraCommander · Post #40 » by **CobraCommander** » Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:11 pm

Doranku wrote:Jokic
Embiid
Giannis
Luka
Tatum
Steph
SGA
Jimmy
KD
Dame

Perfect list except one...and it’s weird

You a browns fan and you pick Jimmy over Mitchell? Did you take your talents and fandom to south beach but never return?

I could see you saying AD but Jimmy?