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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#101 » by Archx » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:25 pm

Bob8 wrote:What have I said? SD is legal ancestor of Communist party. They have got all their assets, buildings...You described someone, who was few years ago member of SD and have a position in their government as far right, because he liked some Jansa's tweets. Wtf?

Obsession with Jansa is laughable. People rather pay draconian taxes, because they're afraid that Dark Prince will somehow harm them.


My reply wasn't directed to you it was to the other guy. I said i have no clue who the twitter guy was and all i did was quickly glanced at his tweets, thats all. People jump parties all the time and change their political agenda. It's hard to tell anymore who supports what or whom.

Also, i couldn't give less **** about Jansa or anyone else in our political space, that dude should be buried under the prison somewhere anyway.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#102 » by XTraderXL » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:30 pm

Archx wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
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There are more ex communists in SDS than any other party, that includes their leader who was so extreme that they kicked him out of the party in the 80's. It is well documented and on record. And in a tweet below he supported Janša. I honestly don't care who he is but doesn't seem trustworthy. If this was true what he was saying, it would have been huge news and Luka wouldn't take it as easy as he probably did.

My best guess is, Igor was just chasing a ring, that's all.


Back then if you wanted to become anything in politics or business you had to be in the communist party. That doesnt mean you shared their ideology, it was just a membership of convenience.

It is unsurprising you dont know that though. You lack the basic knowledge on pretty much anything 8-)


You're just here to cause drama again, aren't you? I do have a basic knowledge of 80's political system, otherwise i stopped carring about politics long time ago. But read again what Bob said and what i said and put it into a context.

It's weird saying i lack basic knowledge on everything then you proceed to demand a trade for Doncic and you can't figure out that this is not NBA2k game. No one is trading Giannis or Embiid or Tatum, etc... And no team would be dumb enough to completely massacre their roster to get Luka because that would put them in the same situation as Mavs are in right now. If you're so smart and intelligent, why is that so hard for you to understand?


I stopped taking you seriously when you claimed Trump was responsible for the market crash when Covid started 3 years ago :banghead: Thats when you showed all your "knowledge". You dont have even basic understanding of how things work.

And about trading Luka.... More than half of NBA teams are ran by stupid and incompetent people so there are plenty of teams that would trade for Luka in a second. Smart FO would trade him now that they can still get good return. They will get less in 2 years when he demands a trade by himself.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#103 » by arkuo » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:31 pm

Luka cant win as a number 1. Its like saying Spanoulis will win an NBA chamoionship as a #1. No he won't. He needs a super charged 1B like Lebron had with Wade. Kyrie playing crazy good basketball next to him is ideally his best case. You cant surround Luka with 4 3&D players then start complaining that his usage rate is high again. You gotta pick a side. With Jrue and Brook Lopez on the team, Luka will go back to dribbling for 19 seconds again while four dumb asses just watch him from the 3 point line and his fans complain why his usage rate is high.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#104 » by XTraderXL » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:32 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:What have I said? SD is legal ancestor of Communist party. They have got all their assets, buildings...You described someone, who was few years ago member of SD and have a position in their government as far right, because he liked some Jansa's tweets. Wtf?

Obsession with Jansa is laughable. People rather pay draconian taxes, because they're afraid that Dark Prince will somehow harm them.


My reply wasn't directed to you it was to the other guy. I said i have no clue who the twitter guy was and all i did was quickly glanced at his tweets, thats all. People jump parties all the time and change their political agenda. It's hard to tell anymore who supports what or whom.

Also, i couldn't give less **** about Jansa or anyone else in our political space, that dude should be buried under the prison somewhere anyway.



You cant be serious. You invoked politics by saying the Tweeter guy was some far right winger and now you are lying that you dont care about politics. You really are something LOL
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#105 » by Mavrelous » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:33 pm

arkuo wrote:Luka cant win as a number 1. Its like saying Spanoulis will win an NBA chamoionship as a #1. No he won't. He needs a super charged 1B like Lebron had with Wade. Kyrie playing crazy good basketball next to him is ideally his best case. You cant surround Luka with 4 3&D players then start complaining that his usage rate is high again. You gotta pick a side. With Jrue and Brook Lopez on the team, Luka will go back to dribbling for 19 seconds again while four dumb asses just watch him from the 3 point line and his fans complain why his usage rate is high.


Dude, Luka was Myles Turner instead of Dwight Powell away from a ring last year...
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#106 » by arkuo » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:35 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:Luka cant win as a number 1. Its like saying Spanoulis will win an NBA chamoionship as a #1. No he won't. He needs a super charged 1B like Lebron had with Wade. Kyrie playing crazy good basketball next to him is ideally his best case. You cant surround Luka with 4 3&D players then start complaining that his usage rate is high again. You gotta pick a side. With Jrue and Brook Lopez on the team, Luka will go back to dribbling for 19 seconds again while four dumb asses just watch him from the 3 point line and his fans complain why his usage rate is high.


Dude, Luka was Myles Turner instead of Dwight Powell away from a ring last year...


We dont know that man. Warriors wiped their floor with their jerseys 4-1. Hard to say if getting 1 guy can win it all. Wiggins also found his game again thanks to the Mavs not defending him. Hard to tell.

I think i like the new setup better with a 1A and 1B star. Then fill out the holes with players that file a role. The coach, well not so much.

That setup is way better than having a 1A and four number 3s just looking around. That's not sustainable.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#107 » by Archx » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:38 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
Archx wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Spoiler:


Back then if you wanted to become anything in politics or business you had to be in the communist party. That doesnt mean you shared their ideology, it was just a membership of convenience.

It is unsurprising you dont know that though. You lack the basic knowledge on pretty much anything 8-)


You're just here to cause drama again, aren't you? I do have a basic knowledge of 80's political system, otherwise i stopped carring about politics long time ago. But read again what Bob said and what i said and put it into a context.

It's weird saying i lack basic knowledge on everything then you proceed to demand a trade for Doncic and you can't figure out that this is not NBA2k game. No one is trading Giannis or Embiid or Tatum, etc... And no team would be dumb enough to completely massacre their roster to get Luka because that would put them in the same situation as Mavs are in right now. If you're so smart and intelligent, why is that so hard for you to understand?


I stopped taking you seriously when you claimed Trump was responsible for the market crash when Covid started 3 years ago :banghead: Thats when you showed all your "knowledge". You dont have even basic understanding of how things work.
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I said it indirectly affected the market because of what he was saying. I was following stocks and what analysts were talking about. I apologize for not listening to you, it was a mistake by me for listening to experts, my bad.

XTraderXL wrote:You cant be serious. You invoked politics by saying the Tweeter guy was some far right winger and now you are lying that you dont care about politics. You really are something LOL


I honestly don't understand why you're so personally affected by this. I said "it looks like". I didn't claim anything, you made that up. You're trying too hard now and it makes you sound cringe.

That's why i don't talk or care about politics unless someone specifically brings it up.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#108 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:40 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:What have I said? SD is legal ancestor of Communist party. They have got all their assets, buildings...You described someone, who was few years ago member of SD and have a position in their government as far right, because he liked some Jansa's tweets. Wtf?

Obsession with Jansa is laughable. People rather pay draconian taxes, because they're afraid that Dark Prince will somehow harm them.


My reply wasn't directed to you it was to the other guy. I said i have no clue who the twitter guy was and all i did was quickly glanced at his tweets, thats all. People jump parties all the time and change their political agenda. It's hard to tell anymore who supports what or whom.

Also, i couldn't give less **** about Jansa or anyone else in our political space, that dude should be buried under the prison somewhere anyway.


You describe him as far right. That's why I have reacted.

Jansa maybe should have been in the prison, but only after hundreds of leftist, who have stolen multiple times more. But hey if people want socialism, they should have it. Just no crying after please.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#109 » by Mavrelous » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:44 pm

arkuo wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
arkuo wrote:Luka cant win as a number 1. Its like saying Spanoulis will win an NBA chamoionship as a #1. No he won't. He needs a super charged 1B like Lebron had with Wade. Kyrie playing crazy good basketball next to him is ideally his best case. You cant surround Luka with 4 3&D players then start complaining that his usage rate is high again. You gotta pick a side. With Jrue and Brook Lopez on the team, Luka will go back to dribbling for 19 seconds again while four dumb asses just watch him from the 3 point line and his fans complain why his usage rate is high.


Dude, Luka was Myles Turner instead of Dwight Powell away from a ring last year...


We dont know that man. Warriors wiped their floor with their jerseys 4-1. Hard to say if getting 1 guy can win it all. Wiggins also found his game again thanks to the Mavs not defending him. Hard to tell.


It's not 1 guy, THJ was down and Green still underdeveloped, take same roster from last year, add this year Green and THJ and replace Powell with Turner and it's a win.
Championship is also a lot about luck, Mavs don't matchup well against the Warriors, but Warriors themselves wouldn't have been there if Grizzlies were a tad more experienced, the very same Warriors were lottery team the year before.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#110 » by XTraderXL » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:46 pm

Archx wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Archx wrote:
You're just here to cause drama again, aren't you? I do have a basic knowledge of 80's political system, otherwise i stopped carring about politics long time ago. But read again what Bob said and what i said and put it into a context.

It's weird saying i lack basic knowledge on everything then you proceed to demand a trade for Doncic and you can't figure out that this is not NBA2k game. No one is trading Giannis or Embiid or Tatum, etc... And no team would be dumb enough to completely massacre their roster to get Luka because that would put them in the same situation as Mavs are in right now. If you're so smart and intelligent, why is that so hard for you to understand?


I stopped taking you seriously when you claimed Trump was responsible for the market crash when Covid started 3 years ago :banghead: Thats when you showed all your "knowledge". You dont have even basic understanding of how things work.
.


I said it indirectly affected the market because of what he was saying. I was following stocks and what analysts were talking about. I apologize for not listening to you, it was a mistake by me for listening to experts, my bad.

XTraderXL wrote:You cant be serious. You invoked politics by saying the Tweeter guy was some far right winger and now you are lying that you dont care about politics. You really are something LOL


I honestly don't understand why you're so personally affected by this. I said "it looks like". I didn't claim anything, you made that up. You're trying too hard now and it makes you sound cringe.

That's why i don't talk or care about politics unless someone specifically brings it up.



Sure, lie some more :)
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#111 » by Archx » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:46 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:What have I said? SD is legal ancestor of Communist party. They have got all their assets, buildings...You described someone, who was few years ago member of SD and have a position in their government as far right, because he liked some Jansa's tweets. Wtf?

Obsession with Jansa is laughable. People rather pay draconian taxes, because they're afraid that Dark Prince will somehow harm them.


My reply wasn't directed to you it was to the other guy. I said i have no clue who the twitter guy was and all i did was quickly glanced at his tweets, thats all. People jump parties all the time and change their political agenda. It's hard to tell anymore who supports what or whom.

Also, i couldn't give less **** about Jansa or anyone else in our political space, that dude should be buried under the prison somewhere anyway.


You describe him as far right. That's why I have reacted.

Jansa maybe should have been in the prison, but only after hundreds of leftist, who have stolen multiple times more. But hey if people want socialism, they should have it. Just no crying after please.


Well i did say it "IT LOOKS LIKE", i never claimed anything. I was just guessing, i have no clue who he is and i never thought someone would take this so personally and seriously lol. I guess talking politics is even more sensible than i imagined.

Agreed. There's many people on both sides that should be locked up.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#112 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:46 pm

Archx wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
Archx wrote:
You're just here to cause drama again, aren't you? I do have a basic knowledge of 80's political system, otherwise i stopped carring about politics long time ago. But read again what Bob said and what i said and put it into a context.

It's weird saying i lack basic knowledge on everything then you proceed to demand a trade for Doncic and you can't figure out that this is not NBA2k game. No one is trading Giannis or Embiid or Tatum, etc... And no team would be dumb enough to completely massacre their roster to get Luka because that would put them in the same situation as Mavs are in right now. If you're so smart and intelligent, why is that so hard for you to understand?


I stopped taking you seriously when you claimed Trump was responsible for the market crash when Covid started 3 years ago :banghead: Thats when you showed all your "knowledge". You dont have even basic understanding of how things work.
.


I said it indirectly affected the market because of what he was saying. I was following stocks and what analysts were talking about. I apologize for not listening to you, it was a mistake by me for listening to experts, my bad.

XTraderXL wrote:You cant be serious. You invoked politics by saying the Tweeter guy was some far right winger and now you are lying that you dont care about politics. You really are something LOL


I honestly don't understand why you're so personally affected by this. I said "it looks like". I didn't claim anything, you made that up. You're trying too hard now and it makes you sound cringe.

That's why i don't talk or care about politics unless someone specifically brings it up.


You have brought Jansa in the debate from 0. Reading your posts is obviously that you hate him, which is ok, but just don't act like you're some neutral person. I hate our bird too and I proudly admit it. ;)
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#113 » by Archx » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:51 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Spoiler:
Archx wrote:
XTraderXL wrote:
I stopped taking you seriously when you claimed Trump was responsible for the market crash when Covid started 3 years ago :banghead: Thats when you showed all your "knowledge". You dont have even basic understanding of how things work.
.


I said it indirectly affected the market because of what he was saying. I was following stocks and what analysts were talking about. I apologize for not listening to you, it was a mistake by me for listening to experts, my bad.

XTraderXL wrote:You cant be serious. You invoked politics by saying the Tweeter guy was some far right winger and now you are lying that you dont care about politics. You really are something LOL


I honestly don't understand why you're so personally affected by this. I said "it looks like". I didn't claim anything, you made that up. You're trying too hard now and it makes you sound cringe.

That's why i don't talk or care about politics unless someone specifically brings it up.


You have brought Jansa in the debate from 0. Reading your posts is obviously that you hate him, which is ok, but just don't act like you're some neutral person. I hate our bird too and I proudly admit it. ;)


Heh, i never said i was neutral i only said i don't care or follow politics like i used to. Life is much simpler that way :P

But yes i do hate Jansa, that's true. I only brought him up because i saw this guy linked his tweet or whatever. But like i said, i never claimed he's 100% supporting him or whatever, you took it way too seriously then for some reason lol.
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Post#114 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 1:59 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Spoiler:
Archx wrote:
I said it indirectly affected the market because of what he was saying. I was following stocks and what analysts were talking about. I apologize for not listening to you, it was a mistake by me for listening to experts, my bad.



I honestly don't understand why you're so personally affected by this. I said "it looks like". I didn't claim anything, you made that up. You're trying too hard now and it makes you sound cringe.

That's why i don't talk or care about politics unless someone specifically brings it up.


You have brought Jansa in the debate from 0. Reading your posts is obviously that you hate him, which is ok, but just don't act like you're some neutral person. I hate our bird too and I proudly admit it. ;)


Heh, i never said i was neutral i only said i don't care or follow politics like i used to. Life is much simpler that way :P

But yes i do hate Jansa, that's true. I only brought him up because i saw this guy linked his tweet or whatever. But like i said, i never claimed he's 100% supporting him or whatever, you took it way too seriously then for some reason lol.


The word far right is very problematic. You can't use it even use for Jansa, whose politics is far from far right, and for sure not for some ex SD member.
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Post#115 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:04 pm

XTraderXL wrote:
Archx wrote:I see that Mavs defense without Luka has been really spectacular lately, right? Some of you wanted to trade him, i guess a guy like Thybull would fix all the problems. :lol:

2nd game in a row they were relying on a 20yo rookie to carry them in the most important phase of the year, while some of us said at the season's start that Kidd's game schemes won't be sustainable entire season. You can't play your best player entire 2nd half most of the time like Kidd was doing early on.

This season is such a failure from coaching and team management perspective. After this loss they'll be 0.5 games away from missing the playoffs entirely.



Yeah, conveniently forget that the Mavs would get back players that would replace Luka. For me there is no question the team would get better if they traded Luka. He cant even get them to a 50% record. How do you not improve after getting back a few solid/good players and FRPs?


Are you serious? If we played PO last 3 years is because of Luka.
Looks like you cane from the Moon :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nobody can win alone in this NBA.

If you trade Luka Doncic then you have to find another player like him.... Not so smart idea my friend :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

I would like to remember another Mark Cuban quote from last season (After GSW destroyed us):

"When we lost in the Conference Finals, I don't think it was for a lack of talent," Cuban told Bleacher Report's Taylor Rooks on Wednesday.

After 6months he traded for Irving.
This is our clear minded owner.

I'm still waiting for the moment when no bull will come out of his mouth....probably in vain.
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Re: RS 22/23 - Mavs vs Grizzlies (Mond, 8:30PM EST) 

Post#116 » by Archx » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:05 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Spoiler:


You have brought Jansa in the debate from 0. Reading your posts is obviously that you hate him, which is ok, but just don't act like you're some neutral person. I hate our bird too and I proudly admit it. ;)


Heh, i never said i was neutral i only said i don't care or follow politics like i used to. Life is much simpler that way :P

But yes i do hate Jansa, that's true. I only brought him up because i saw this guy linked his tweet or whatever. But like i said, i never claimed he's 100% supporting him or whatever, you took it way too seriously then for some reason lol.


The word far right is very problematic. You can't use it even use for Jansa, whose politics is far from far right, and for sure not for some ex SD member.


That is true, but if anyone asks, my opinion of him is so spectaculary low that i will absolutely use any dumb or wrong word i can find to describe him and i won't lose any sleep over it ;) Because it's amazing to watch how his supporters get triggered.
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Post#117 » by Bob8 » Tue Mar 14, 2023 2:18 pm

Archx wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Archx wrote:
Heh, i never said i was neutral i only said i don't care or follow politics like i used to. Life is much simpler that way :P

But yes i do hate Jansa, that's true. I only brought him up because i saw this guy linked his tweet or whatever. But like i said, i never claimed he's 100% supporting him or whatever, you took it way too seriously then for some reason lol.


The word far right is very problematic. You can't use it even use for Jansa, whose politics is far from far right, and for sure not for some ex SD member.


That is true, but if anyone asks, my opinion of him is so spectaculary low that i will absolutely use any dumb or wrong word i can find to describe him and i won't lose any sleep over it ;) Because it's amazing to watch how his supporters get triggered.


Btw, I'm not Jansa's supporter. But effect of our bird prime minister on my tax return will be spectacular, not in a good way. So I would choose Jansa, like all other Slovenians, who aren't connected to the state payroll, should, every time over whatever socialist party.
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Post#118 » by JWillTheFreak » Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:09 pm

The Mavs were top 4 in the west early on in the season with Luka so obviously you can win with him, yes he was being overplayed but they were winning... also if they didn't choke bunch of games early on there ranking could've been better... Once Luka started missing games with ankle, heel and we got kyrie the mavs team went down hill. This narrative to trade Luka is laughable, I like how he gets all the blame but yet the whole team been inconsistent. Mavs just need a solid big man to protect the paint and rebound and they will be in good shape... then add a solid wing defender and you have a winning team. It's easier to to find players to fit the roles than replacing player like Luka.
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Post#119 » by Captain_Obvious » Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:08 pm

Captain_Obvious wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
Captain_Obvious wrote:Kidd should be gone at the end of the day

Who is available?


It's too late for that now, this season is over, Cuban and Nico **** up following this fool's advise.
They went and signed McGee on his advise when they needed cap flexibility to recover from losing Brunson.
They listened to him and didn't pursue Brunson replacement, panicked before season tip off and signed Campazzo.
They sat idly by and watched him roll out a line up of Luka with Campazzo off ball with Powell on the floor in NOP, this was a head scratcher on some other level when they were trying to make a comeback.
They sat idly by when he put Wood in the doghouse and criticized him in a press conference 2 games into the season, as if the locker room needed this toxicity.
They watched Luka and Dinwiddie being run to the ground without any attempt to get creative with Kemba and Hardy.
They watched him play Luka on the st leg of a B2B with 4 guys missing, to then sit him on the 2nd night when the missing guys played, ensuring the team lost both games in POR.
When Nash got fired, there was a chance to bring back Kokoskov, they let the opportunity pass.

Now they have Kyrie a FA, when his tenure here was an absolute mess.
It takes a special kind of genius to go from having arguabely the best player in the league and max contract slot in cap space, to being luxury tax team of a team with no backup guard, no big wing, and no center in just 18 months.

You know I don't really buy the too late argument. All it takes is a run in the last 10 games and you are back in the hunt.

I also remember Cuban said he regretted not firing Avery Johnson (in 2008) before the post season as he saw the doom coming. Admittingly, I fully expect Cuban do to the same mistake over and over again. I he followed his own advice...

nvm only 13 games left - it is rather late for a change. I thought maybe 20 games left.

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