Jordan Love Thread - All Aboard the Love Train

Matches Malone · Post #81 » by **Matches Malone** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:48 pm

I think it's going to come down to consistency with Love. I think he's passed the point of looking how he did in the chiefs game. His footwork was atrocious in that game and kept throwing off his back foot or not planting on his throws enough. Fast forward to this past season and he looked night/day different footwork-wise. If he can keep that consistent, I think he'll be good to go.

Carioca · Post #82 » by **Carioca** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 7:55 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I think it's going to come down to consistency with Love. I think he's passed the point of looking how he did in the chiefs game. His footwork was atrocious in that game and kept throwing off his back foot or not planting on his throws enough. Fast forward to this past season and he looked night/day different footwork-wise. If he can keep that consistent, I think he'll be good to go.

No to mention MLF really screwed the pooch on the game plan--no adjustments to Spagnuolo's blitz package at all. You knew they were going to send pressure at a first-time starting QB, but MLF didn't have a plan. Next to watching MLF this year ask Aaron on the sidelines if he wanted to punt during that Lion's game, that was mind boggling to see.

LittleRooster · Post #83 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:07 pm

Matches Malone wrote:I think it's going to come down to consistency with Love. I think he's passed the point of looking how he did in the chiefs game. His footwork was atrocious in that game and kept throwing off his back foot or not planting on his throws enough. Fast forward to this past season and he looked night/day different footwork-wise. If he can keep that consistent, I think he'll be good to go.

Clements has been great for Love like he was for Rodgers early in his career

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Carioca · Post #84 » by **Carioca** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:30 pm

LittleRooster wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:I think it's going to come down to consistency with Love. I think he's passed the point of looking how he did in the chiefs game. His footwork was atrocious in that game and kept throwing off his back foot or not planting on his throws enough. Fast forward to this past season and he looked night/day different footwork-wise. If he can keep that consistent, I think he'll be good to go.

Clements has been great for Love like he was for Rodgers early in his career

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Adding Clements to the staff last year may end being as big of a plus as adding Bisaccia. I was so pleased to see he was remaining on staff and not retiring or headed for NY, I also think his presence has played an important role in the jump from JLove last season.

TheProdigy · Post #85 » by **TheProdigy** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:30 pm

M-C-G wrote:I think we will know pretty quickly if 'it' is there with him. If 3 out of 4 games we are looking like we did against the Chiefs and don't have any answers, going to be pretty hard to build around Love/MLF combo. But if we are seeing 3 out of 4 games where he is playing like he did against the Eagles, we are going to be a playoff team.

There is a vast middle ground between how Love looked against the Chiefs vs. how he looked against the Eagles. I think it's pretty likely that his performance falls somewhere in the middle instead of the extremes.

I predict in year 1: 30 TDs, 16 Ints, 4,000 yards, 65% completion %, 7.8 yards per attempt

Carioca · Post #86 » by **Carioca** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:35 pm

TheProdigy wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I think we will know pretty quickly if 'it' is there with him. If 3 out of 4 games we are looking like we did against the Chiefs and don't have any answers, going to be pretty hard to build around Love/MLF combo. But if we are seeing 3 out of 4 games where he is playing like he did against the Eagles, we are going to be a playoff team.

There is a vast middle ground between how Love looked against the Chiefs vs. how he looked against the Eagles. I think it's pretty likely that his performance falls somewhere in the middle instead of the extremes.

I predict in year 1: 30 TDs, 16 Ints, 4,000 yards, 65% completion %, 7.8 yards per attempt

That's true, I think it's hard as a fan carrying the G to not get overly optimistic about the Eagles performance recency bias and all. But it showed an unexpectedly positive growth curve that I think has us all pretty excited about the future.

Your stats outlook may be a bit optimistic, but I like where you're coming from!

M-C-G · Post #87 » by **M-C-G** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:10 pm

Finn wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I think we will know pretty quickly if 'it' is there with him. If 3 out of 4 games we are looking like we did against the Chiefs and don't have any answers, going to be pretty hard to build around Love/MLF combo. But if we are seeing 3 out of 4 games where he is playing like he did against the Eagles, we are going to be a playoff team.

I would hope that any player gets more of an opportunity than that.

I wasn’t clear, more like for every ‘quarter’ of the season I want to see him have more good than bad.

If by the end of the season only 1/4th of his games are good, I’m going to be concerned and probably arrive at the conclusion a Love/MLF combo might not work.

On the contrary if it is working more often than not, we might have something really good on our hands.

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TheProdigy · Post #88 » by **TheProdigy** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:39 pm

Carioca wrote:
TheProdigy wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I think we will know pretty quickly if 'it' is there with him. If 3 out of 4 games we are looking like we did against the Chiefs and don't have any answers, going to be pretty hard to build around Love/MLF combo. But if we are seeing 3 out of 4 games where he is playing like he did against the Eagles, we are going to be a playoff team.

There is a vast middle ground between how Love looked against the Chiefs vs. how he looked against the Eagles. I think it's pretty likely that his performance falls somewhere in the middle instead of the extremes.

I predict in year 1: 30 TDs, 16 Ints, 4,000 yards, 65% completion %, 7.8 yards per attempt

That's true, I think it's hard as a fan carrying the G to not get overly optimistic about the Eagles performance recency bias and all. But it showed an unexpectedly positive growth curve that I think has us all pretty excited about the future.

Your stats outlook may be a bit optimistic, but I like where you're coming from!

Maybe it is optimistic but 16 interceptions is alot in today's NFL. I expect him to be less accurate than Rodgers and struggle a bit more with recognizing defenses. On the other hand, I think he will benefit by embracing LaFleur's offensive scheme much more than Rodgers did.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #89 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:50 pm

The NFCN boasted three bottom five defenses this past season. So Love will have no trouble putting up some pretty stats. Hell, a division title isn't out of the question imo.

MoMM · Post #90 » by **MoMM** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:58 pm

I hope he plays well, but we go 3-14, so we can have higher picks in 2024 lol

Post #91 » by **humanrefutation** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:06 pm

I knew after Rodgers's first start that he was going to be really good.

Love's first start has come and gone, obviously, and that was under different circumstances.

But I think we'll get a good sense really quickly as to whether he's going to be good. That doesn't mean he has to win games for us. Rather, he just needs to show that he can make the right reads, make great throws, and handle pressure well. Show everyone what made the Packers decide to move on.

Treebeard · Post #92 » by **Treebeard** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:25 pm

Does Love start games in this pre-season? The experience vs injury risk debate

Matches Malone · Post #93 » by **Matches Malone** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:28 pm

MoMM wrote:I hope he plays well, but we go 3-14, so we can have higher picks in 2024 lol

If we go 3-14 then we get Caleb Williams. Win-Win 8-)

XtremeDunkz · Post #94 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 pm

Treebeard wrote:Does Love start games in this pre-season? The experience vs injury risk debate

Love will 100% play preseason.

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MVP2110 · Post #95 » by **MVP2110** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:43 pm

Treebeard wrote:Does Love start games in this pre-season? The experience vs injury risk debate

I'd guess he'll start 1 or 2 in the preseason but won't play nearly as long as previously

stillgotgame · Post #96 » by **stillgotgame** » Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:06 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:The NFCN boasted three bottom five defenses this past season. So Love will have no trouble putting up some pretty stats. Hell, a division title isn't out of the question imo.

Vegas has us last.

https://lombardiave.com/2023/03/16/packers-worst-odds-nfc-north-2023/

LUKE23 · Post #97 » by **LUKE23** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:20 am

I really don’t care about our record next year as this will be a couple year rebuild through the draft after our cap casualties and just trying to get younger in general. Love needs to look like the future. Rodgers looked like the future but we were 6-10 his first year. I’m fine with that happening again.

MVP2110 · Post #98 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:22 am

LUKE23 wrote:I really don’t care about our record next year as this will be a couple year rebuild through the draft after our cap casualties and just trying to get younger in general. Love needs to look like the future. Rodgers looked like the future but we were 6-10 his first year. I’m fine with that happening again.

Absolutely. This team isn't a Superbowl contender next year doesn't matter. If they sneak into the playoffs that's great but next season should be more about evaluating who will be apart of our next contending team which obviously includes Love

JayMKE · Post #99 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:04 pm

I hate the idea of investing so many years in the project player sitting on the bench only for them to get more chances, I haven't been a fan of this project from the beginning so I can't pretend to be excited or optimistic. I def agree its going to be apparent whether or not Love is a special player pretty quickly even if the Packers aren't very good, sunk cost is the worst possible reason to build around a guy and he has to show something that makes me believe he can be an MVP or lead this team to a Superbowl otherwise its time to ABORT and move on to the NEXT guy. Mediocre and just okay is not enough.

TroyD92 · Post #100 » by **TroyD92** » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:02 pm

I think this is the year we see the truth of the state of this packers team. Love is a single part, but if MLF goes 3-14 he should be gone, Gute should probably be gone if not on the chopping block. There’s a lot of uncertainty for me as far as how much was Rodgers mvp level play hiding glaring issues with the organization from Murphy down. Love is the first litmus test