Og ANUNOBY

[yoyojw17]

Just for the hell of it, I went back and watched all of DeRozan and LaVine's field goal attempts in the play in game with small notes on what happened.

DeRozan
against Anunoby
-19 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving dunk MADE (bad D - over help by OG on LaVine created open path)
-3PT MISSED (good D)
-19 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by OG, but couldn't finish over Poeltl)
-driving layup MADE and 1 (good D, better O)
-10 foot floater MISSED (good D)
-17 foot jumper MISSED (good D - blocked by OG)
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by OG, but couldn't finish over Poeltl)
-driving layup MADE (good D, better O)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - over help by OG on LaVine created open path)
-20 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MADE (good D, better O)
-7 foot floater MADE (good D, better O)
TOTAL: 6-14

against Barnes
-12 foot floater MADE (OREB putback)
-16 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving dunk MADE (bad D - FVV and Poeltl botch Lavine/Vucevic pick and roll, OG rotates correctly, LaVine hits DeRozan for uncontested dunk when Barnes makes final rotation too late)
TOTAL: 2-3

against Trent Jr.
-18 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
TOTAL: 1-1

against Poeltl
-10 foot floater MADE (OREB putback)
TOTAL: 1-1


LaVine
against VanVleet
-18 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
-driving layup MADE (bad D, FVV and Poeltl nearly collide giving LaVine an open lane)
-driving layup MISSED (good D, funneled LaVine into good Barnes help D)
-corner 3PT MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by FVV, LaVine gets and 1 on Poeltl help D)
-20 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
-missed 3PT (good D, end of quarter deep heave)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by FVV)
TOTAL: 5-8

against Siakam
-stepback 3PT MISSED (good D)
-reverse layup MADE (bad D - Siakam totally lost sight of his man on a scramble play)
-21 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 1-3

against Anunoby
-stepback 3PT MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 0-1

against Achiuwa
-driving 5 foot floater MISSED (good D)
TOTAL 0-1

against Barnes
-transition layup MADE (not much Barnes can do off a turnover)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by Barnes, LaVine gets and 1 on Siakam help D)
-spot up 3PT MADE (bad D - Barnes over helps on DDR drive, easy kick to LaVine for 3PT)
-20 foot stepback MADE (good D, better O)
-pull up 3PT MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 4-5

against Boucher
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by Boucher, but Poeltl rotates over and blocks the shot)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - Boucher gives up too much ground in drop PnR coverage, LaVine attacks him and scores and 1)
TOTAL 1-2

against Trent
-pull up 3PT MADE (bad D - GTJ gave up too much ground in transition, LaVine pulled up with minimal contest)
-OREB tip in MISSED (Trent got a body on him, but LaVine just missed a relatively uncontested put back)
TOTAL 1-2

Nice package.

To summarize, of DDR's 14 shots against OG, 4 (regardless of make or miss) of them were against OG's bad defense.

Sounds like an "All World" defender and NBA DPOY to me.

Lol, he ended being 4/10 against OG in situations where he didn't over help in driving.

That's pretty good considering that he was guarding an offensive allstar.

Lol, first you said LaVine torched him which wasn't true. Then you said Demar killed him but only scored 8 points on him off 4/10 shooting in situations he didnt over help.

I don't know man...

annnnnnd it's a small sample size. lol

[AaronB]

Just for the hell of it, I went back and watched all of DeRozan and LaVine's field goal attempts in the play in game with small notes on what happened.

DeRozan
against Anunoby
-19 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving dunk MADE (bad D - over help by OG on LaVine created open path)
-3PT MISSED (good D)
-19 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by OG, but couldn't finish over Poeltl)
-driving layup MADE and 1 (good D, better O)
-10 foot floater MISSED (good D)
-17 foot jumper MISSED (good D - blocked by OG)
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by OG, but couldn't finish over Poeltl)
-driving layup MADE (good D, better O)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - over help by OG on LaVine created open path)
-20 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MADE (good D, better O)
-7 foot floater MADE (good D, better O)
TOTAL: 6-14

against Barnes
-12 foot floater MADE (OREB putback)
-16 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
-driving dunk MADE (bad D - FVV and Poeltl botch Lavine/Vucevic pick and roll, OG rotates correctly, LaVine hits DeRozan for uncontested dunk when Barnes makes final rotation too late)
TOTAL: 2-3

against Trent Jr.
-18 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
TOTAL: 1-1

against Poeltl
-10 foot floater MADE (OREB putback)
TOTAL: 1-1


LaVine
against VanVleet
-18 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
-driving layup MADE (bad D, FVV and Poeltl nearly collide giving LaVine an open lane)
-driving layup MISSED (good D, funneled LaVine into good Barnes help D)
-corner 3PT MISSED (good D)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by FVV, LaVine gets and 1 on Poeltl help D)
-20 foot jumper MADE (good D, better O)
-missed 3PT (good D, end of quarter deep heave)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by FVV)
TOTAL: 5-8

against Siakam
-stepback 3PT MISSED (good D)
-reverse layup MADE (bad D - Siakam totally lost sight of his man on a scramble play)
-21 foot jumper MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 1-3

against Anunoby
-stepback 3PT MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 0-1

against Achiuwa
-driving 5 foot floater MISSED (good D)
TOTAL 0-1

against Barnes
-transition layup MADE (not much Barnes can do off a turnover)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - blew by Barnes, LaVine gets and 1 on Siakam help D)
-spot up 3PT MADE (bad D - Barnes over helps on DDR drive, easy kick to LaVine for 3PT)
-20 foot stepback MADE (good D, better O)
-pull up 3PT MISSED (good D)
TOTAL: 4-5

against Boucher
-driving layup MISSED (bad D - blew by Boucher, but Poeltl rotates over and blocks the shot)
-driving layup MADE (bad D - Boucher gives up too much ground in drop PnR coverage, LaVine attacks him and scores and 1)
TOTAL 1-2

against Trent
-pull up 3PT MADE (bad D - GTJ gave up too much ground in transition, LaVine pulled up with minimal contest)
-OREB tip in MISSED (Trent got a body on him, but LaVine just missed a relatively uncontested put back)
TOTAL 1-2

Nice package.

To summarize, of DDR's 14 shots against OG, 4 (regardless of make or miss) of them were against OG's bad defense.

Sounds like an "All World" defender and NBA DPOY to me.

Lol, he ended being 4/10 against OG in situations where he didn't over help in driving.

That's pretty good considering that he was guarding an offensive allstar.

Lol, first you said LaVine torched him which wasn't true. Then you said Demar killed him but only scored 8 points on him off 4/10 shooting in situations he didnt over help.

I don't know man...

Nothing says "all world" DPOY like 4 of 14 bad defensive plays.

One more thing. ... nothing says "all world" DOPY like the phrase "pretty good considering".

These are not my words. I don't have any axe to grind. OG is a nice player and I hope he does well and makes himself and his family a lot of money.

But this whole "all world defender" mantra is a joke. He is a good defender. I have never denied that.

But "all world defender"? Using your words, I would say as a defender he is "pretty good, considering".

[AaronB]

Nice package.

To summarize, of DDR's 14 shots against OG, 4 (regardless of make or miss) of them were against OG's bad defense.

Sounds like an "All World" defender and NBA DPOY to me.

Lol, he ended being 4/10 against OG in situations where he didn't over help in driving.

That's pretty good considering that he was guarding an offensive allstar.

Lol, first you said LaVine torched him which wasn't true. Then you said Demar killed him but only scored 8 points on him off 4/10 shooting in situations he didnt over help.

I don't know man...

annnnnnd it's a small sample size. lol

True that ... unfortunately it was the most important game of the year.

A true "all-world defender" would have seized the moment and risen to the occasion.

What Toronto got (in the words of his biggest fans) was "pretty good considering".

"Pretty good considering" does not sound like "all-world" DPOY language, and those are not my words but rather the words of the very people defending his "all-world" DOPY status.

[AaronB]

I think we have all come to an agreement.

Instead of calling OG an "all-world" defender.

Let's call him a "pretty good considering" defender.

Those are the words of his fanpeople, and I can get on board with that description.

[Knightro]

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[cedric76]

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Waiting on AaronB s take on that lol

How will he be able to spin this one?

7th best? 6 players in the world are better than you so you are not a "all world" defender

I m not even gonna mention that he is 1st among SG/SF

[JF5]

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Waiting on AaronB s take on that lol

How will he be able to spin this one?

7th best? 6 players in the world are better than you so you are not a "all world" defender

I m not even gonna mention that he is 1st among SG/SF

And he was tied with Jrue Holiday as the best perimeter defender in voting, essentially. With the top 6 all being big men who usually have more impact naturally on the defensive end.

So yeah... He's definitely not an all world defender.

[AaronB]

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Waiting on AaronB s take on that lol

How will he be able to spin this one?

7th best? 6 players in the world are better than you so you are not a "all world" defender

I m not even gonna mention that he is 1st among SG/SF

And he was tied with Jrue Holiday as the best perimeter defender in voting, essentially. With the top 6 all being big men who usually have more impact naturally on the defensive end.

So yeah... He's definitely not an all world defender.

Agreed, 7th place is not "All World" defender. I think we can agree that he is "pretty good considering" (not my words)

[cedric76]

Waiting on AaronB s take on that lol

How will he be able to spin this one?

7th best? 6 players in the world are better than you so you are not a "all world" defender

I m not even gonna mention that he is 1st among SG/SF

And he was tied with Jrue Holiday as the best perimeter defender in voting, essentially. With the top 6 all being big men who usually have more impact naturally on the defensive end.

So yeah... He's definitely not an all world defender.

Agreed, 7th place is not "All World" defender. I think we can agree that he is "pretty good considering" (not my words)

Best at your position but not "all world" defender, lol, keep digging

[AaronB]

And he was tied with Jrue Holiday as the best perimeter defender in voting, essentially. With the top 6 all being big men who usually have more impact naturally on the defensive end.

So yeah... He's definitely not an all world defender.

Agreed, 7th place is not "All World" defender. I think we can agree that he is "pretty good considering" (not my words)

Best at your position but not "all world" defender, lol, keep digging

Actual Points

JJJ ... 391
Lopez ... 309
Mobley ... 101
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OG. ... 8

Nothing says "all world" than 8 points out of over 900 available

However, I am happy to accept your side's "pretty good considering".

[pepe1991]

LONG POST ALERT. Mainly on Raptors, feel free to skip

I took some time to figure wtf is wrong with Raptors. They are group of individually good defenders ,but as a team they had like 11th defensive rating and given that whole roster was built to "defend" that's pretty damn pathetic.

Vleet, Poetl, Siakam, OG, Barnes are all viewed as good defenders. Sure.

Boucher, Achuwia, Porter, Koloko are of same mold of "should be plus defenders". But again, once you see Raptors play whole game(s) you'll figure they haven't been elite defensive team ever since Lowry Kawhi, and Marc Gasol left.

I'm not saying they don't win games because they are not "elite " defensive team, i'm saying they are not capable of winning games because they overvalued importance of individual defense and whole "+6'8 + defender, positionless basketball" mantra/agenda/ideology had spectacular backfire on both ends.

Nick Nurse defensive strategy is way too complicated and way too phyiscally demanding to be playable 82 games. Amount of running on defense he expect for that team to chase off shooters is something his players aren't capable of repeating on consistant bases.
This is not first time that i'm saying it, and i will continue to repeat it, but to me switch everything has become gimmick.
You can see on regular bases defense switching just for sake of it, so you are sending your smallest defender to 7 footer not because you are forced to do so, but because your coach is flexing in a mirror that morning with " oh my God, i'm so modern, i switch" ego. LIke... yea...good for you. it's almost like other team is attacking missmatch and you are just too dumb to understand that you are being exploited, instad you are proud of fact you are being played. Also since his whole defense is predicated on point of a attack , switch and crazy amount of running, he can't "trust" many players to execute it, therfore he is killing his starters playing them 35-40 min a game.
Before they got Poetl as rim defender, things were caotic on defense. They had 3 "elite " wing defender but apsolutley nobody at 6'8-6'9 size in nba can defend rim at that size nor is trained to do so but Draymoond Green. So Barnes- OG- Siakam would redirect traffic into one side , expecting other guy to defend rim, failing to understand, under that structure "other guy" is , like them, not used to actually meet person at rim, rather defend weak side by isolating corner shooter and/or sagging just enough to get rebound, but not to actually act as help defender. Nurse tried to "fix" this by playing Siakam on defense at C. Complete and utter mess.

On offense...oh boy. From armchair average Joe fan perspective you can nail nail in a coffin by just saying buzzwords of " no first option". And you are probably right.
Siakam is definition of supporting star and co-star, but now he is asked to be " a guy", But as "a guy" he isn't that versitale, he is robotic, not fluid athlete and his jumpshot was always shaky, even in season when they won whole thing, he had sucess mainly by playing close to basket, in dunker spot, at PF as Gasol was streaching floor. And objectivlly, second most important player of that team wasn't him, but Lowry.

To compensate for it in present day, you have Vleet playing Lowry wannabe role and he pretty much sucks at. I don't belive in clutch, but i belive that 6'0 PG with below average atheltics can't get shots up in moments when team focuses him. Vleet shoots epic 29,8% FG and 25% for 3 in "clutch" for a season. Last year he shot 33% FG but he shot 40% for 3. He still was awful in playoffs shooting 35% FG overall.
Second compensation move was to play Barnes at PG and ohhhh boy that was pain. This is what happends when you don't understand difference between playmaking and passig. Stationary passing isn't playmaking. Barnes can make right pass off catch and occesionally make right play off ball, but once you put ball in his hands and teams figure he can't shoot pass 15 feet you get Ben Simmons effect. PicK&roll is usless because it creates no space, pop won't happen and paint is clogged with bodies that don't respect ballhandler ( hello Fultz fans...).

Plain it simple, each and every Nurse "adjustment" created more problems than it was viable solution.


Vleet, Siakam, OG, Trent & Barnes have average TS% of 55%. That's already below league's average.
Once you remove FTA from formula, and look at their eFG, it's 51% in league where average is 54,5%.
Than you add 3% ( Vleet, OG, Siakam, Barnes, Trent take 28 FGA from 3 point line ) and their percentage of those shots is 34%. Again, below leagu'es average.

And i won't even go into whole "anti -guard" movment that Raptors are doing. Outside of Trent and Vleet, they have zero actual nba guards. They don't draft/ sign them because of +6'8 defense mantra. (I guess they kind a forgot they won championship playing Vleet, Lowry and Powell...)

At the end of a day, positions exist to help teams and to help players, but also to help coaches. When Nurse was given roster that had clear ,defined position ( PG Lowry, SG Green SF Kawhi PF Siakam and C Gasol) that roster worked, and they were elite on both ends because their vocal leaders were two HOF level veterans in Gasol & Lowry who were still good enough to help and execute tasks in front of them.
Ever since Kawhi left and Nurse and Ujiriy "ideology" of positionless basketball was implemented, Raptors are complete and utter mess. It's hilarious that they refused to play center for like 3 years just to get Poetl in desparate attemp to even make playoffs.

I guess to sum it up: they drafted/signed/ traded for mainly "versitale defenders" to be hispters of nba, and ignored that "versitale wing defenders" still need center to actual anchor defense. And once they "solved" that with Poetl that runned into situation where starting 5 lacked any offensvie versitality and shooting.
Therfore they are dumpster fire isolation team ( 41% FG) , wothless spot ups team ( 24th percentile), wortlhess pick&roll team ( team's handlers 17th percentile) etc. They 100% suck at everything that normal guards are good at, and not because Vleet and Trent suck, but because they task their "versitale defenders" to do stuff on offense guards should be doing. And average nba guard , with ball, is sooooooo much more skilled than average wing that it's not even funny, because skill is only thing that got him in nba, where standing at 6'9 you can just have right physical profile and specific skillset to get in nba. ( Achuwia , Garuba,Biyombo & company...)

[AaronB]

Nice post.

I rarely read your posts. I have a philosophy: I will read long posts and I will read boring posts, but I won't read long and boring posts, which I often categorize your long posts. However, your "Banned in Boston" warning label drew me in.

I have hinted a number of times in this thread that OG's famed "all-world" moniker was achieved while playing in a defensive philosophy that is unsustainable in the NBA. No doubt OG put up great steal numbers in that system.

However, once they traded for Poeltl, OG's steal numbers went down and are very close to Fultz's. I really like Fultz as a defender, but he is clearly not "all-world".

Also, what was really clear in the excellent Knightro post is that OG is a little lost in a traditional defense scheme. This is to be expected as OG basically has not played a traditional Defense for several years and was then expected to play it in the biggest game of the year. Actually, he did "pretty good considering".

OG is in fact a "pretty good considering" defender. I did not come up with that moniker (one of OG's fanboys did), but I thought it is spot on in describing OG's defense on many levels.

[msmoore66]

Did OG hurt you somehow?

I actually agree with your general POV on this. Just seems very odd how passionate about him you are.

[AaronB]

Did OG hurt you somehow?

I actually agree with your general POV on this. Just seems very odd how passionate about him you are.

I actually like OG as a player and have said so the entire time.

It is just that any time someone goes off the plantation of "OG is an all-world defensive god" his fanbois and fangrrrs get really riled up. Fun hornet nest to stir up to take my mind off of my income taxes.

[msmoore66]

Did OG hurt you somehow?

I actually agree with your general POV on this. Just seems very odd how passionate about him you are.

I actually like OG as a player and have said so the entire time.

It is just that any time someone goes off the plantation of "OG is an all-world defensive god" his fanbois and fangrrrs get really riled up. Fun hornet nest to stir up to take my mind off of my income taxes.

Ha, fair play. Income taxes are painful.

[ill-Will03]

LONG POST ALERT. Mainly on Raptors, feel free to skip

I took some time to figure wtf is wrong with Raptors. They are group of individually good defenders ,but as a team they had like 11th defensive rating and given that whole roster was built to "defend" that's pretty damn pathetic.

Vleet, Poetl, Siakam, OG, Barnes are all viewed as good defenders. Sure.

Boucher, Achuwia, Porter, Koloko are of same mold of "should be plus defenders". But again, once you see Raptors play whole game(s) you'll figure they haven't been elite defensive team ever since Lowry Kawhi, and Marc Gasol left.

I'm not saying they don't win games because they are not "elite " defensive team, i'm saying they are not capable of winning games because they overvalued importance of individual defense and whole "+6'8 + defender, positionless basketball" mantra/agenda/ideology had spectacular backfire on both ends.

Nick Nurse defensive strategy is way too complicated and way too phyiscally demanding to be playable 82 games. Amount of running on defense he expect for that team to chase off shooters is something his players aren't capable of repeating on consistant bases.
This is not first time that i'm saying it, and i will continue to repeat it, but to me switch everything has become gimmick.
You can see on regular bases defense switching just for sake of it, so you are sending your smallest defender to 7 footer not because you are forced to do so, but because your coach is flexing in a mirror that morning with " oh my God, i'm so modern, i switch" ego. LIke... yea...good for you. it's almost like other team is attacking missmatch and you are just too dumb to understand that you are being exploited, instad you are proud of fact you are being played. Also since his whole defense is predicated on point of a attack , switch and crazy amount of running, he can't "trust" many players to execute it, therfore he is killing his starters playing them 35-40 min a game.
Before they got Poetl as rim defender, things were caotic on defense. They had 3 "elite " wing defender but apsolutley nobody at 6'8-6'9 size in nba can defend rim at that size nor is trained to do so but Draymoond Green. So Barnes- OG- Siakam would redirect traffic into one side , expecting other guy to defend rim, failing to understand, under that structure "other guy" is , like them, not used to actually meet person at rim, rather defend weak side by isolating corner shooter and/or sagging just enough to get rebound, but not to actually act as help defender. Nurse tried to "fix" this by playing Siakam on defense at C. Complete and utter mess.

On offense...oh boy. From armchair average Joe fan perspective you can nail nail in a coffin by just saying buzzwords of " no first option". And you are probably right.
Siakam is definition of supporting star and co-star, but now he is asked to be " a guy", But as "a guy" he isn't that versitale, he is robotic, not fluid athlete and his jumpshot was always shaky, even in season when they won whole thing, he had sucess mainly by playing close to basket, in dunker spot, at PF as Gasol was streaching floor. And objectivlly, second most important player of that team wasn't him, but Lowry.

To compensate for it in present day, you have Vleet playing Lowry wannabe role and he pretty much sucks at. I don't belive in clutch, but i belive that 6'0 PG with below average atheltics can't get shots up in moments when team focuses him. Vleet shoots epic 29,8% FG and 25% for 3 in "clutch" for a season. Last year he shot 33% FG but he shot 40% for 3. He still was awful in playoffs shooting 35% FG overall.
Second compensation move was to play Barnes at PG and ohhhh boy that was pain. This is what happends when you don't understand difference between playmaking and passig. Stationary passing isn't playmaking. Barnes can make right pass off catch and occesionally make right play off ball, but once you put ball in his hands and teams figure he can't shoot pass 15 feet you get Ben Simmons effect. PicK&roll is usless because it creates no space, pop won't happen and paint is clogged with bodies that don't respect ballhandler ( hello Fultz fans...).

Plain it simple, each and every Nurse "adjustment" created more problems than it was viable solution.


Vleet, Siakam, OG, Trent & Barnes have average TS% of 55%. That's already below league's average.
Once you remove FTA from formula, and look at their eFG, it's 51% in league where average is 54,5%.
Than you add 3% ( Vleet, OG, Siakam, Barnes, Trent take 28 FGA from 3 point line ) and their percentage of those shots is 34%. Again, below leagu'es average.

And i won't even go into whole "anti -guard" movment that Raptors are doing. Outside of Trent and Vleet, they have zero actual nba guards. They don't draft/ sign them because of +6'8 defense mantra. (I guess they kind a forgot they won championship playing Vleet, Lowry and Powell...)

At the end of a day, positions exist to help teams and to help players, but also to help coaches. When Nurse was given roster that had clear ,defined position ( PG Lowry, SG Green SF Kawhi PF Siakam and C Gasol) that roster worked, and they were elite on both ends because their vocal leaders were two HOF level veterans in Gasol & Lowry who were still good enough to help and execute tasks in front of them.
Ever since Kawhi left and Nurse and Ujiriy "ideology" of positionless basketball was implemented, Raptors are complete and utter mess. It's hilarious that they refused to play center for like 3 years just to get Poetl in desparate attemp to even make playoffs.

I guess to sum it up: they drafted/signed/ traded for mainly "versitale defenders" to be hispters of nba, and ignored that "versitale wing defenders" still need center to actual anchor defense. And once they "solved" that with Poetl that runned into situation where starting 5 lacked any offensvie versitality and shooting.
Therfore they are dumpster fire isolation team ( 41% FG) , wothless spot ups team ( 24th percentile), wortlhess pick&roll team ( team's handlers 17th percentile) etc. They 100% suck at everything that normal guards are good at, and not because Vleet and Trent suck, but because they task their "versitale defenders" to do stuff on offense guards should be doing. And average nba guard , with ball, is sooooooo much more skilled than average wing that it's not even funny, because skill is only thing that got him in nba, where standing at 6'9 you can just have right physical profile and specific skillset to get in nba. ( Achuwia , Garuba,Biyombo & company...)

Coming from a raptors fan, this a great and accurate take. Thanks for this. I’d suggest maybe even posting this in the raps forum. I think people would appreciate the perspective from an outsider.

[cedric76]

6+ Harris+Cole (or Denver pick) for OG

Og is a defensive breast that can defend 1- 5 ( he even defended jokic this season) , he could defend 2-4 for us.

He could share his minutes between SG and SF


Fuitz,suggs, Cole
OG, suggs,houstan
Franz, OG,11
PB,JI, BOL ,11
Wcj, goga, Moe

11 I d gamble on GG Jackson

[fendilim]

6+ Harris+Cole (or Denver pick) for OG

Og is a defensive breast that can defend 1- 5 ( he even defended jokic this season) , he could defend 2-4 for us.

He could share his minutes between SG and SF


Fuitz,suggs, Cole
OG, suggs,houstan
Franz, OG,11
PB,JI, BOL ,11
Wcj, goga, Moe

11 I d gamble on GG Jackson

i like breasts. But what’s a defensive breast..?

[drsd]

6+ Harris+Cole (or Denver pick) for OG

Og is a defensive breast that can defend 1- 5 ( he even defended jokic this season) , he could defend 2-4 for us.

He could share his minutes between SG and SF


Fuitz,suggs, Cole
OG, suggs,houstan
Franz, OG,11
PB,JI, BOL ,11
Wcj, goga, Moe

11 I d gamble on GG Jackson

As OG Anunoby is a lock to opt out of his contract next year, it is plausible the Raptors trade him now. Unlikely, but plausible.

That he can guard SGs and hit the long-ball implies that he could play SG full time. So: he sure is an upgrade over Harris!

If he was gettable for 6+ Harris+ Denver pick, I see the Magic starting as:

Fultz/Anthony
Anunoby/Suggs
F-Wagner/Bol/Houstan
Banchero/Isaac/Okeke
Carter/Bitadze

Draft a SG at 11, resign M-Wagner and sign "some-dude" and the 3rd stringers are locked.

I like, but don't love this team. Certainly the trade is worth making.

[MagicFan101]

If we plan to run more of the offense through Franz and Paolo, then OG would be a smart longterm option at SG.

I would be perfectly fine cashing in on him if the price is right.

PG is still a bit of a question mark longterm but we have some answer for today to take that next step.