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REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0)

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What was most bad?

Celts defense in first half/overall
19
16%
Celts mistakes late
17
15%
We lost to the Sixers without Embiid
21
18%
A particular player was the ass of shame
4
3%
That nasty beard
7
6%
Everything I'm just pissed
21
18%
Justin Jackson
4
3%
Other/Coach/Team
24
21%
 
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#201 » by PierceFan4ever » Tue May 2, 2023 3:02 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:Yall have been spoiled having Tatum! Yall take greatness for granted!! It's going to be a miserable forum if he chooses to leave! He wasn't the problem, not even close!! Of all the people yall got to, yall really fixed your fingers to talk about tatum?? There were 3 guys who were very bad well before we get to any jay. then before tatum I'd go with jb turnovers and lacking aggression. when you go low, tatum goes ham, so thank all of you kindly!!!

Quoted for truth.

Horse Hockey is more like it.

True Superstars do not disappear down the stretch...especially in a home playoff game.

Tatum and Brown playing hot potato with the ball late in the fourth tells you everything you need to know.

Celtics have no Alpha dog on this team.


These dudes think too much. They don’t play free. It wasn’t this bad before but it’s really showing in these playoffs. Look at Jimmy butler having fun out there and closing games. Our guys look like it’s life or death in the clutch. No one wanting the big moment to win the game which stars need to do. Look what Steph curry did game 7 against the kings taking 38 shots. Jaylen brown taking 10 shots is pathetic.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#202 » by MagicBagley18 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:02 am

Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.


At this point even joes supporters have to have doubts about this- the difference is just some think it’s growing pains and other think he sucks.

Don’t blame anyone for either opinion
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#203 » by Green89 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:03 am

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MagicBagley18 wrote:It was negated by the meltdown but the plays he made down the stretch is exactly why smart stays out there in crunch time


I've posted his crunch time net rating before. It's not good and far below either White or Brogdon.


Didn’t care then don’t care now…time and time again throughout the years he’s made timely plays and it covers multiple coaching regimes.

Big white fan but tonight’s also not the night to make the case for him in clutch time


Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats. :crazy: There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.

Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#204 » by Shak_Celts » Tue May 2, 2023 3:03 am

Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.

I got some things to say but I'm going to hold them because I'm already down. I need a pick-me-up!
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#205 » by Higgs Boston » Tue May 2, 2023 3:03 am

Mazzulla beat rivers and is the worst coach in the playoffs.
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Post#206 » by FrodoFraggins » Tue May 2, 2023 3:03 am

We lost [AT HOME] to the Sixers without Embiid
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#207 » by GrandTheftRondo » Tue May 2, 2023 3:04 am

Setshot33 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Read on Twitter

As a franchise, they've went from Larry Bird in the huddle saying "Give me the ball and tell everyone to get out of the way" to

Nah...let Marcus shoot it...cause Jayson don't want any of that smoke.

Just hilarious.

Blame multiple coaches over the years who give Smart free rein like he’s Steph Fkn Curry.
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Post#208 » by Feed Your Head » Tue May 2, 2023 3:04 am

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Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.

I got some things to say but I'm going to hold them because I'm already down. I need a pick-me-up!


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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#209 » by seiffert82 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:06 am

The Celtics have a style, which is clearly driven by the coach, but lack poise and direction at the end of close games. We often underestimate our opposition (the fans do too).

Interestingly though, we respond well to adversity. Will be interesting to see what happens.



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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#210 » by Setshot33 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:09 am

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
Setshot33 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:
Read on Twitter

As a franchise, they've went from Larry Bird in the huddle saying "Give me the ball and tell everyone to get out of the way" to

Nah...let Marcus shoot it...cause Jayson don't want any of that smoke.

Just hilarious.

Blame multiple coaches over the years who give Smart free rein like he’s Steph Fkn Curry.

Nah.

Blame it on a passive "superstar" who tells you he wants to be the man but is too weak to demand the ball in crunch time.
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Post#211 » by Green89 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:10 am

Shak_Celts wrote:
Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.

I got some things to say but I'm going to hold them because I'm already down. I need a pick-me-up!


Uh, oh, I'm going to spoiler my post because it definitely isn't a pick me up.

Spoiler:
The Sixers have had 3 other playoff series in the Embiid era where he missed a game and the opposing team failed to win that game. In all 3 series, the Sixers prevailed.
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Re: REALLY?? Yep, We Lost To Philly! Loss vs PHI 5/1 (PHI leads 1-0) 

Post#212 » by Marvel » Tue May 2, 2023 3:11 am

Setshot33 wrote:
Mr_Mojo_Risin wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:Yall have been spoiled having Tatum! Yall take greatness for granted!! It's going to be a miserable forum if he chooses to leave! He wasn't the problem, not even close!! Of all the people yall got to, yall really fixed your fingers to talk about tatum?? There were 3 guys who were very bad well before we get to any jay. then before tatum I'd go with jb turnovers and lacking aggression. when you go low, tatum goes ham, so thank all of you kindly!!!

Quoted for truth.

Horse Hockey is more like it.

True Superstars do not disappear down the stretch...especially in a home playoff game.

Tatum and Brown playing hot potato with the ball late in the fourth tells you everything you need to know.

Celtics have no Alpha dog on this team.

That 1 - 4 in the clutch though

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Post#213 » by Green89 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:11 am

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Smart had a shot at the rim.
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Post#214 » by lon3lytoaster » Tue May 2, 2023 3:11 am

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Feed Your Head wrote:The closest thing to a damning statement you’ll get from me is yeah, I do have some concerns about Joe’s feel for the game lol.


At this point even joes supporters have to have doubts about this- the difference is just some think it’s growing pains and other think he sucks.

Don’t blame anyone for either opinion


Growing pains are the occasional miscommunication, bad play call or bad coverage. What’s terrifying about Mazzulla is he legitimately has no idea what’s going on at any time, even in retrospect because the same things keep happening.

I honestly think he just tries to mime Brad and Udoka without having a super great understanding of why certain things do or don’t work. Also has to be one of the worst motivators we’ve ever had.
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Post#215 » by MagicBagley18 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:11 am

Green89 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
I've posted his crunch time net rating before. It's not good and far below either White or Brogdon.


Didn’t care then don’t care now…time and time again throughout the years he’s made timely plays and it covers multiple coaching regimes.

Big white fan but tonight’s also not the night to make the case for him in clutch time


Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats. :crazy: There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.

Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.


I saw multiple big plays tonight…
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Post#216 » by JaMarco » Tue May 2, 2023 3:14 am

Celtics still have no idea how to close out games offensively. They try to "run the clock out", which doesn't work ever. They play scared. They play to not lose instead of playing to win. This team just isn't a championship team, period.
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Post#217 » by Green89 » Tue May 2, 2023 3:15 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Didn’t care then don’t care now…time and time again throughout the years he’s made timely plays and it covers multiple coaching regimes.

Big white fan but tonight’s also not the night to make the case for him in clutch time


Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats. :crazy: There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.

Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.


I saw multiple big plays tonight…


But the end result was a loss, as was the Atlanta loss where we relied on him too heavily on final possessions.
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Post#218 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Tue May 2, 2023 3:15 am

MagicBagley18 wrote:
Green89 wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
Didn’t care then don’t care now…time and time again throughout the years he’s made timely plays and it covers multiple coaching regimes.

Big white fan but tonight’s also not the night to make the case for him in clutch time


Yup, let's coach on what a guy's done "throughout the years" and ignore recent stats. :crazy: There should be no "automatic" here or "he's earned it" junk. Smart is not the same on defense this season, and he's just not good on offensive possessions in a game's final seconds.

Even with his below DPOY defense, I'd still have him out there on the defensive end. Just not on the offensive side. If the game dictates it with no stoppage that's one thing, but it's another thing when you have him out there after a Timeout, and a whole other level if the play called involves him.


I saw multiple big plays tonight…


Multiple turnovers too...
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Post#219 » by Shak_Celts » Tue May 2, 2023 3:15 am

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Post#220 » by snowman » Tue May 2, 2023 3:18 am

I hate to say this, and I TRULY hope I'm wrong. But I believe we will never win a championship with Smart as the starting point guard. Too many dumb decisions, too many times trying to make a high lite play, and too much flopping or fake hustle plays. I'm not saying he needs to go, but he would be better coming off the bench, but if we could get good value, I would move him. Also, what I mean by fake hustle plays, is diving on the floor when you have no chance at the ball or flopping on a drive trying to draw a foul and putting the team in a 4 on 5 disadvantage on the defensive end. He can be a truly great defensive player, but he needs to make great plays to make up for the bonehead ones. I mean he had as many turnovers as the entire sixer team tonight and his defense on Harden was nowhere near where it should have been.

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