Antinomy wrote:rilamann wrote:Bucks might have been swept in the Brooklyn series if you replace Holiday with Bledsoe, they certainly don't win the series.
That said, Holiday is such a weird player, he's one of the only guys I have ever seen who is overrated, but somehow simultaneously has a reputation for being underrated. I was actually having this conversation (not on here) with someone about a month ago.
And when I say Holiday is overrated, I am not saying he sucks, he's a good player and he did help us win a championship. I just don't think he's as good as a lot of people think. He builds his reputation on Tuesday nights in January. He's not a high BBIQ guy who you can trust to show up in significant games.
The Buck's biggest downfall was their lack of basketball IQ and Holiday is one of the main culprit as far as guys actually on the court. Holiday and Giannis.
I know I am not the only one whose initial reaction in real was WTF ARE YOU DOING??? when Holiday first went to throw the valley-oop. It worked out, but imagine if that decision had resulted in a turnover.
Would be interesting to see Holiday play with a true PG, I'll give him that argument. But with the way Jimmy Butler completely snatched and obliterated Holiday's soul, I'm not even sure how Holiday can show his face in a Bucks uniform again.
Well, they almost went down 3-0 had it not been for Giannis+Khris combining for 68 of our 86 points.
And in the potential “sweep” Game 4, Jrue shot 6/16 & did nothing of note.
Regarding the Miami series:
I knew we weren’t winning Game 5 when we won the tip, Jrue caught the ball, turned & immediately launched a three pointer that bricked 4 seconds into the game.
That set the tone for rest of the night.
Coming off that Game 4 fourth quarter disaster, it was clear he didn’t learn a thing.
Holiday hit the game winner in game 3 vs Brooklyn to keep us out of an 0-3 hole. Then he had a flurry of big baskets in the 4th quarter of game 7 that saved our ass. But yeah, other than that he hasn't done a whole lot in big games. The steal on Booker in game 5 of the Finals was huge, but the valley-oop was a ridiculously dumb decision that just happened to work out. That sequence was Jrue Holiday in a nutshell.
When Holiday jacked up that garbage 3pt shot literally 3 or 4 seconds into game 5, I almost lost it.
You don't want to read too much into body language, but when the Bucks were in the tunnel right before they came out for game 5 vs the Heat, they looked like a defeated team that knew they were toast and just wanted to get it over with.
Before I seen that, I actually thought the Bucks would come out fired up and show some pride and kick Miami's ass in game 5. I thought they'd lose game 6, but I really thought they would show some pride at home in game 5. When I seen them in the tunnel right before they came out onto the court, I lost all my confidence in them.
