Austin Reaves

RichCollab · Post #81 » by **RichCollab** » Sun May 7, 2023 2:04 am

RookieStar wrote:Well.... seems Reaves value/price will keep going down every PO games. lol

Yeah. I have cooled to the idea of signing him.

Skybox · Post #82 » by **Skybox** » Sun May 7, 2023 2:28 am

Is DLo the guy for us?

Post #83 » by **eyriq** » Sun May 7, 2023 2:29 am

Skybox wrote:Is DLo the guy for us?

Keyonte is

RookieStar · Post #84 » by **RookieStar** » Sun May 7, 2023 2:43 am

Skybox wrote:Is DLo the guy for us?

HECK NO!!!

KillMonger · Post #85 » by **KillMonger** » Sun May 7, 2023 4:25 am

RichCollab wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Well.... seems Reaves value/price will keep going down every PO games. lol

Yeah. I have cooled to the idea of signing him.

Why have you cooled?

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drsd · Post #86 » by **drsd** » Mon May 8, 2023 3:53 pm

Austin Reaves had a eFG% of 61.6%. His scoring efficiency is stellar. Is is also an above average rebounder and passer from the SG slot.

Reaves was worth 129 points per 100 positions. That's ridiculous! That's a Curry stat line.

Ducklett · Post #87 » by **Ducklett** » Tue May 9, 2023 5:00 am

I would love Reeves but it seems unlikely.

drsd · Post #88 » by **drsd** » Tue May 9, 2023 6:42 am

Reaves goes for an efficient 21 in a Lakers win, and all the media talks about is Walker.

MasterGMer · Post #89 » by **MasterGMer** » Tue May 9, 2023 6:56 am

Ducklett wrote:I would love Reeves but it seems unlikely.

Why not? If we offer what Lakers couldn’t, we get Austin Reaves

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drsd · Post #90 » by **drsd** » Tue May 9, 2023 9:59 am

MasterGMer wrote:
Ducklett wrote:I would love Reeves but it seems unlikely.

Why not? If we offer what Lakers couldn’t, we get Austin Reaves

It is rumored that Austin Reaves will look to a 4-year 100M contract. It is hard to see how the Lakers could match above that line. So, if the Magic was willing to go 4-years on 120M, I think that gets him.

I accept many here will say "that's too much". But relative to the new cap that's coming, it won't be.

Orlando needs to find its SG of the future soon. And this is the salary range Orlando should be looking at.

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tiderulz · Post #91 » by **tiderulz** » Tue May 9, 2023 3:43 pm

drsd wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
Ducklett wrote:I would love Reeves but it seems unlikely.

Why not? If we offer what Lakers couldn’t, we get Austin Reaves

It is rumored that Austin Reaves will look to a 4-year 100M contract. It is hard to see how the Lakers could match above that line. So, if the Magic was willing to go 4-years on 120M, I think that gets him.

I accept many here will say "that's too much". But relative to the new cap that's coming, it won't be.

Orlando needs to find its SG of the future soon. And this is the salary range Orlando should be looking at.

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by rules, i dont think they can offer that much.

KillMonger · Post #92 » by **KillMonger** » Tue May 9, 2023 10:18 pm

drsd wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
Ducklett wrote:I would love Reeves but it seems unlikely.

Why not? If we offer what Lakers couldn’t, we get Austin Reaves

It is rumored that Austin Reaves will look to a 4-year 100M contract. It is hard to see how the Lakers could match above that line. So, if the Magic was willing to go 4-years on 120M, I think that gets him.

I accept many here will say "that's too much". But relative to the new cap that's coming, it won't be.

Orlando needs to find its SG of the future soon. And this is the salary range Orlando should be looking at.

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But is reeves that guy? I don't think so.... We've only seen reeves being the wide open option.... The benefit of the gravity of a lebron James and AD..... Also getting that LA whistle doesn't hurt

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drsd · Post #93 » by **drsd** » Wed May 10, 2023 6:22 am

KillMonger wrote:But is reeves that guy?

This is a critical question as Reaves on Orlando might be used like G-Harris. Then: why would the Magic pay him 25-30M a year to be an 8ppg guy?

I don't think so.... We've only seen reeves being the wide open option.... The benefit of the gravity of a lebron James and AD..... Also getting that LA whistle doesn't hurt

One would hope that next year Banchero and F-Wagner are both magnets of defenders. If so, Orlando needs permitter shooting at the SG position.

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KillMonger · Post #94 » by **KillMonger** » Wed May 10, 2023 9:12 am

drsd wrote:
KillMonger wrote:But is reeves that guy?

This is a critical question as Reaves on Orlando might be used like G-Harris. Then: why would the Magic pay him 25-30M a year to be an 8ppg guy?

I don't think so.... We've only seen reeves being the wide open option.... The benefit of the gravity of a lebron James and AD..... Also getting that LA whistle doesn't hurt

One would hope that next year Banchero and F-Wagner are both magnets of defenders. If so, Orlando needs permitter shooting at the SG position.

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I mean technically we got one.... We just don't get the ball to Harris enough, not enough volume..... Reeves is not as good of a shooter as Harris but he is a bit more dynamic.... The problem I'm having is trying to wrap my head around the kind of money we would have to pay reeves to get him.... Only for his role here to be not quite what the price tag says his role should be.... I Mean on the totem pole he'd be below paolo/Franz/Fultz/Dell at the least.... I guess with salaries ballooning this would be the new normal?

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Skybox · Post #95 » by **Skybox** » Wed May 10, 2023 12:52 pm

I just don’t see star power in Reaves. He’s good, but people throwing around $30m figures for a SG who might peak at 16ppg with weak D? I’d much rather take a shot at Simons or even Poole, in that price range (or less), who have shown they can put up gaudy ppg, even in the shadow of HOFers. I consider Reaves a complementary player, not a leading man…and that’s leading man money.

MasterGMer · Post #96 » by **MasterGMer** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:06 pm

Skybox wrote:I just don’t see star power in Reaves. He’s good, but people throwing around $30m figures for a SG who might peak at 16ppg with weak D? I’d much rather take a shot at Simons or even Poole, in that price range (or less), who have shown they can put up gaudy ppg, even in the shadow of HOFers. I consider Reaves a complementary player, not a leading man…and that’s leading man money.

IMO, I think he could be the third option on this Magic squad. But not paying too much

I think range between 25M and 30M can get him.

Yes, he is a complementary piece, but a perfect complementary piece

Skybox · Post #97 » by **Skybox** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:40 pm

MasterGMer wrote:
Skybox wrote:I just don’t see star power in Reaves. He’s good, but people throwing around $30m figures for a SG who might peak at 16ppg with weak D? I’d much rather take a shot at Simons or even Poole, in that price range (or less), who have shown they can put up gaudy ppg, even in the shadow of HOFers. I consider Reaves a complementary player, not a leading man…and that’s leading man money.

IMO, I think he could be the third option on this Magic squad. But not paying too much

I think range between 25M and 30M can get him.

Yes, he is a complementary piece, but a perfect complementary piece

that's too much for him...no doubt that will get him, unless he takes over in the next two rounds, that's a gross overpay.

ogmagicfan · Post #98 » by **ogmagicfan** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:56 pm

The Magic would be best served to stay away from Reaves.

He isn't a good jump shooter by any means, a vast majority of his 3's are wide open due to playin with Bron & AD. He doesn't shoot 3's at a high volume either. During the playoffs he's been absolute sh*t outside of a couple games, and alot of the time it's becsuse he cant hit the open 3's defenses are giving him

For 25-30 million, that's insane. I wouldn't even pay 20 million for him if we're being honest. MLE range is what he should go for.

He's a mediocre defender who benefits from playing with the best defender in the NBA (AD), he's a mediocre jump shooter, & he's an awful fit for our team

I can't help but find it funny how some people who were against/heavily questioning FVV for 30-35 mil are for Austin Reaves at 25-30 mil when FVV is not only far better, but a way better fit

tiderulz · Post #99 » by **tiderulz** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:56 pm

Skybox wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
Skybox wrote:I just don’t see star power in Reaves. He’s good, but people throwing around $30m figures for a SG who might peak at 16ppg with weak D? I’d much rather take a shot at Simons or even Poole, in that price range (or less), who have shown they can put up gaudy ppg, even in the shadow of HOFers. I consider Reaves a complementary player, not a leading man…and that’s leading man money.

IMO, I think he could be the third option on this Magic squad. But not paying too much

I think range between 25M and 30M can get him.

Yes, he is a complementary piece, but a perfect complementary piece

that's too much for him...no doubt that will get him, unless he takes over in the next two rounds, that's a gross overpay.

meawhile Poole is getting paid $30mil+ and GS cant rely on him in games and doesnt play any defense. If you wanted Simons i could live with that, but not Poole

Skybox · Post #100 » by **Skybox** » Wed May 10, 2023 3:42 pm

tiderulz wrote:
Skybox wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
IMO, I think he could be the third option on this Magic squad. But not paying too much

I think range between 25M and 30M can get him.

Yes, he is a complementary piece, but a perfect complementary piece

that's too much for him...no doubt that will get him, unless he takes over in the next two rounds, that's a gross overpay.

meawhile Poole is getting paid $30mil+ and GS cant rely on him in games and doesnt play any defense. If you wanted Simons i could live with that, but not Poole

Totally understand that take...at this point, I prefer Simons to Poole and have grave concerns about Poole but can't just throw away the knowledge that Poole is still very young, and has scored prolifically at times-not that long ago. I know it's in him, he's not out of the league, he's just struggling at the moment. His offensive upside dwarfs Reaves, IMO, even though Reaves looks pretty good today.

Simons' contract suddenly looks great, Poole's not so much-but he's capable of earning it again, Reaves-depends on the deal. I just don't think Reaves upside is that high and if people are suddenly talking 25-30m...I'm way out on Reaves. I don't want to chase and spend 15m+ on a FA guard who isn't likely to score 20ppg. If we're not looking at a third "Big 3" guy, I'd just as soon spend a lot less on a DDV or NAW type and hope for solid rotation piece at around MLE or less.