Official NBA General Discussion 2022-23 V4.0

WaltFrazier · Post #41 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:49 am

Wiggins making up for Klay's lack of production

WaltFrazier · Post #42 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:52 am

Lebron hits Wiggs in the face on drive no call. Guess he didn't draw blood like with Ish Stewart

Los_29 · Post #43 » by **Los_29** » Thu May 11, 2023 2:56 am

WaltFrazier wrote:SVG - runner/floater is a shot every guard has to have. But not our undersized point guard, he tries to go right to the rim with a layup

Do you think a floater is a higher percentage shot than a layup?

Didn't Nurse hate the floater? It will be interesting to see the changes our new coach makes.

What's interesting is that Fred actually shot the same percentage as Lamelo Ball at the rim while having half as many attempts. Meanwhile he shot much better at the rim than Trae and shot just 2% worse at the rim than Maxey with half as many attempts.

Just shows you that some people on here have their mind already made up. It goes back to that style over substance. They don't even care if the ball goes in as long as the player looks fast while doing it.

Randle McMurphy · Post #44 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:15 am

Wiggins and Draymond actually showed up for this one. Looks like that will be the difference.

WaltFrazier · Post #45 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:18 am

Los_29 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:SVG - runner/floater is a shot every guard has to have. But not our undersized point guard, he tries to go right to the rim with a layup

Do you think a floater is a higher percentage shot than a layup?

Didn't Nurse hate the floater? It will be interesting to see the changes our new coach makes.

What's interesting is that Fred actually shot the same percentage as Lamelo Ball at the rim while having half as many attempts. Meanwhile he shot much better at the rim than Trae and shot just 2% worse at the rim than Maxey with half as many attempts.

Just shows you that some people on here have their mind already made up. It goes back to that style over substance. They don't even care if the ball goes in as long as the player looks fast while doing it.

Ask SVG what he meant. I assume he means it's a shot a guard needs because he gets blocked too often by bigger guys at the rim. So you need to soot over them from a bit farther back. It's not style vs substance it's Fred getting blocked at the rim so often.

HumbleRen · Post #46 » by **HumbleRen** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:22 am

Los_29 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:SVG - runner/floater is a shot every guard has to have. But not our undersized point guard, he tries to go right to the rim with a layup

Do you think a floater is a higher percentage shot than a layup?

Didn't Nurse hate the floater? It will be interesting to see the changes our new coach makes.

What's interesting is that Fred actually shot the same percentage as Lamelo Ball at the rim while having half as many attempts. Meanwhile he shot much better at the rim than Trae and shot just 2% worse at the rim than Maxey with half as many attempts.

Just shows you that some people on here have their mind already made up. It goes back to that style over substance. They don't even care if the ball goes in as long as the player looks fast while doing it.

Maxey on shots less than 5 feet - 57%

FVV on shots less than 5 feet - 51%

Maxey on shots from 5-9 feet - 46%

FVV on shots from 5-9 feet - 35%

Maxey on shots from 10-14 feet - 47%

FVV on shots from 10-14 feet - 40%

Hm, yeah FVV needs a floater lol.

WaltFrazier · Post #47 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:22 am

Nike trying to rehab Ja's image with this oddball commercial

WaltFrazier · Post #48 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:42 am

Like him or not Draymond is playing hard tonight, running the floor, scoring

Brinbe · Post #49 » by **Brinbe** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:47 am

make ad and lebron play as many mins as possible

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #50 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Thu May 11, 2023 3:51 am

The floater is an awful shot, there is a distinction between a floater and a push shot in that the floater is released while the body is in motion while a push shot is released when you are more set/stable and can control the trajectory more easily with muscle memory so it will fall at a much higher % than a floater. If Brunson can do it there's no reason Fred shouldn't be able to but here we are at almost 30 years old and Fred hasn't learned **** because he's delusional and believes that he can get to the hole and finish with the best of them when we fans watch him hoist up awful shots and get rejected constantly. He keeps doing it again and again and failing again and again, it's quite sad. It's no secret by now that when he gets hot from deep you press him and force him to drive into traffic (which usually results in awful, high degree of difficulty shots or blocked shots), drive into and out of traffic (overdribbling) or force him to kick out to one of our awful shooters which usually happens with little time left on the clock.

As much as getting better shooters would help Fred, he'd still be a 1 level scorer who can't put pressure on a defense with his mere presence on the court like Maxey can unless he becomes an elite 3 point shooter but the guy hasn't shot the ball at a 40% clip even once during his career as a starter. Fred was 122nd in the league in 3pt FG% this year.

Randle McMurphy · Post #51 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:20 am

Another Warriors playoff run might have just been saved by injury. AD could very well have a concussion from that elbow.

Los_29 · Post #52 » by **Los_29** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:23 am

SVG - “Drives create offensive rebounds.”

KL78192020 · Post #53 » by **KL78192020** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:25 am

what happened to AD? missed it.

Basketball_Jones · Post #54 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:26 am

AD out next game for sure. Gonna be a game 7

Basketball_Jones · Post #55 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:30 am

Curry’s been the best player this series. That normally bodes well

HumbleRen · Post #56 » by **HumbleRen** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:36 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:AD out next game for sure. Gonna be a game 7

I think he'll be good to go next game. AD is pretty dramatic when he gets hurt, he usually bounces back quickly when its an upper body injury.

Randle McMurphy · Post #57 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:39 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:Curry’s been the best player this series. That normally bodes well

I would say AD was and by a fair margin (he's the Lakers' entire defense).

But seeing as he probably won't be playing again this series given he was wheeled out on a wheelchair with a towel on his head (concussion), it doesn't much matter. It's gonna be LeBron fighting uphill against the Warriors once again with the much worse roster, except this time he's 39 years old and playing on a bad foot.

WuTang_CMB · Post #58 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:44 am

GS -7 lock

HumbleRen · Post #59 » by **HumbleRen** » Thu May 11, 2023 4:45 am

Still sticking with Lakers in 6.

AD will play and drop 30/15 on their head tops.

Brinbe · Post #60 » by **Brinbe** » Thu May 11, 2023 5:11 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Curry’s been the best player this series. That normally bodes well

I would say AD was and by a fair margin (he's the Lakers' entire defense).

But seeing as he probably won't be playing again this series given he was wheeled out on a wheelchair with a towel on his head (concussion), it doesn't much matter. It's gonna be LeBron fighting uphill against the Warriors once again with the much worse roster, except this time he's 39 years old and playing on a bad foot.

yep. lebron is contributing in spots but he's largely being carried instead of doing the carrying.

gonna hinge on dlo and reaves' (and whatever random roleplayer) shooting if ad is out. warriors need to keep up that same pace they had in this one. run it down their throats and make lebron work on that foot.