This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's.

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Re: This is OBVIOUSLY Steph's era- not Lebron's. 

Post#501 » by art_tatum » Sat May 13, 2023 12:34 pm

First of all you can tell who the stars are by who showed up in game 6. Only Lebron steph and AD.
Warriors need a whole new roster.

Don't see how winning a 2nd round series changes things when both teams weren't that good in the reg season.

Historians will clearly define it as
Lebrons super team era
Then Steph's 3ball era.

It's not about who's the best individual player (Which would be prime lebron).
It's about what's dominating the nba in terms of titles and influence/style of play.

Clearly it's been the latter since 2015 ish.
Though now Its neithers era.

Bought to be the joker era if the refs don't mess it up.
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Post#502 » by thebigbird » Sat May 13, 2023 12:39 pm

art_tatum wrote:First of all you can tell who the stars are by who showed up in game 6. Only Lebron steph and AD.
Warriors need a whole new roster.

Don't see how winning a 2nd round series changes things when both teams weren't that good in the reg season.

Historians will clearly define it as
Lebrons super team era
Then Steph's 3ball era.

It's not about who's the best individual player (Which would be prime lebron).
It's about what's dominating the nba in terms of titles and influence/style of play.

Clearly it's been the latter since 2015 ish.
Though now Its neithers era.

Bought to be the joker era if the refs don't mess it up.

Lmao yeah Steph sure showed up by shooting 29% from 3 and getting hunted mercilessly on defense. :lol:

Night night, Steph.
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Post#503 » by art_tatum » Sat May 13, 2023 12:43 pm

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art_tatum wrote:First of all you can tell who the stars are by who showed up in game 6. Only Lebron steph and AD.
Warriors need a whole new roster.

Don't see how winning a 2nd round series changes things when both teams weren't that good in the reg season.

Historians will clearly define it as
Lebrons super team era
Then Steph's 3ball era.

It's not about who's the best individual player (Which would be prime lebron).
It's about what's dominating the nba in terms of titles and influence/style of play.

Clearly it's been the latter since 2015 ish.
Though now Its neithers era.

Bought to be the joker era if the refs don't mess it up.

Lmao yeah Steph sure showed up by shooting 29% from 3 and getting hunted mercilessly on defense. :lol:

Night night, Steph.

Like I said that's how the historians of the game will define it in terms of eras. Hard to see it otherwise.
Especially when they are rock hard to categorize. Same with bball docs. Stans for either player won't change a thing on a forum
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Post#504 » by thebigbird » Sat May 13, 2023 12:46 pm

art_tatum wrote:
thebigbird wrote:
art_tatum wrote:First of all you can tell who the stars are by who showed up in game 6. Only Lebron steph and AD.
Warriors need a whole new roster.

Don't see how winning a 2nd round series changes things when both teams weren't that good in the reg season.

Historians will clearly define it as
Lebrons super team era
Then Steph's 3ball era.

It's not about who's the best individual player (Which would be prime lebron).
It's about what's dominating the nba in terms of titles and influence/style of play.

Clearly it's been the latter since 2015 ish.
Though now Its neithers era.

Bought to be the joker era if the refs don't mess it up.

Lmao yeah Steph sure showed up by shooting 29% from 3 and getting hunted mercilessly on defense. :lol:

Night night, Steph.

Like I said that's how the historians of the game will define it in terms of eras. Hard to see it otherwise.
Especially when they are rock hard to categorize. Same with bball docs. Stans for either player won't change a thing on a forum

No, they won’t. Curry is 1-2 in the playoffs against LeBron without KD (also got knocked out in the play-in a couple years back), and is 2-7 in his last 9 playoff games against LeBron without KD (not counting the play-in game). The facts are clear - when Steph faces LeBron on an even playing field, he loses. Even when he’s playing 38 year old torn tendon in his foot LeBron.
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Post#505 » by The Master » Sat May 13, 2023 12:49 pm

Jerry Maine wrote:My gut feeling is these two will meet each other one last time in the next couple of playoffs. And despite my guys losing I have really enjoyed seeing them compete yet again. Both utterly brilliant players, with daylight between them and anyone else from this generation of players

This. I think that media and fanbases made this year's matchup something more than it actually was, so obviously lot of negativity poured out based on that throughout the process.

Curry is 35yo, LeBron will be 39yo on December - to even suggest that this was some legacy battle was insane. I'm not a fan of Curry, because it's hard to like Warriors as a LeBron's fan even without KD - but it should be an epilogue to two all-time great careers, not some online bashing on one of them based on a specific outcome. Just a pure example how toxic NBA environment is when people can't acknowledge greatness of both and just be happy with two legends on their last legs competing for the last (?) time, without some bs about legacies and other wonders. Imagine how dumb is one's basketball's evaluation if this person believes that 20 year of career of a specific player would've been interpreted differently if he had lost one playoff series at age ~39.

Obviously, I was happy as hell, I hate this Warriors' team, sorry not sorry - but no, this loss shouldn't change anything in Steph Curry's perception. Being a superstar for 8-9 years and anchoring one of the all-time greats dynasties is ~top10 of alltime career whether you like it or not.
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Post#506 » by Jerry Maine » Sat May 13, 2023 12:49 pm

Curry is also 3-2 vs Bron in the playoffs
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Post#507 » by art_tatum » Sat May 13, 2023 12:52 pm

thebigbird wrote:
art_tatum wrote:
thebigbird wrote:Lmao yeah Steph sure showed up by shooting 29% from 3 and getting hunted mercilessly on defense. :lol:

Night night, Steph.

Like I said that's how the historians of the game will define it in terms of eras. Hard to see it otherwise.
Especially when they are rock hard to categorize. Same with bball docs. Stans for either player won't change a thing on a forum

No, they won’t. Curry is 1-2 in the playoffs against LeBron without KD (also got knocked out in the play-in a couple years back), and is 2-7 in his last 9 playoff games against LeBron without KD (not counting the play-in game). The facts are clear - when Steph faces LeBron on an even playing field, he loses. Even when he’s playing 38 year old torn tendon in his foot LeBron.


Lol are you Counting games. What's the record without AD. What's KDs record against Lebron in the playoffs? Does that make it KDs era? No
None of that matters unless it's a doc about the Lebron curry rivalry ( which there will be)

What does their record have to do with how the nba has changed over the years. Lebron won half his titles in the heatles area. Then the 3 ball era came and teams copied gsw who won 4 titles in 7/8 years.
Im not even criticizing Lebron my initial post said prime lebrons the better player.
Im just answering the topics question. Im not a Lebron or curry Stan.
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Post#508 » by Jerry Maine » Sat May 13, 2023 1:02 pm

Epic rivalry

Unless you're a stan
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Post#509 » by Homer38 » Sat May 13, 2023 1:05 pm

It was always stupid to think that the legacy was at stake for LBJ or Curry in this playoff series as Stephan A. Smith said for LBJ

They are two legends, it would be more fun if we could appreciate their career more instead of making comparisons as the OP or other wanted to do...
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Post#510 » by Jerry Maine » Sat May 13, 2023 1:17 pm

Bird and magic got 8 chips between them and despite magic getting two more they're pretty much considered equals all time.

All but the hardest Curry stan would rate Curry above Bron all time, but their rivalry is anyway a classic.

Bron needs another chip to take bragging rights when all is said and done, they're playing for rings, not poll results on an Internet forum
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Post#511 » by infinite11285 » Sat May 13, 2023 2:20 pm

Dmagic wrote:ill go ahead and say it now when it comes to overall greatness. rodman and pippen are close to lebron on the list.


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Post#512 » by Stan » Sat May 13, 2023 4:52 pm

:lol:
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Post#513 » by homecourtloss » Sat May 13, 2023 4:59 pm

infinite11285 wrote:
Dmagic wrote:ill go ahead and say it now when it comes to overall greatness. rodman and pippen are close to lebron on the list.


:o


:lol: :lol:

Goomba3666 wrote:4 rings with the SAME franchise in 7 years.

Won rings with different sets of roles players whom he all made look better. Basically everyone 'fit in'.

Wiggins, who Lebron had traded away to get Kevin Love, FLOURISHED alongside a guy that beat Lebron 3x in the finals in Curry.

Literally has made EVERY TEAMMATE better by merely just his presence on the floor. From superstars like KD, to players like McGee/Nick Young/Draymond/Zaza Pachulia, to players to Poole & Gary Payton Jr. Unlike Bron, he really makes teammates better and fundamental pieces to the team regardless of the level they're at.

And most of all - NO EXCUSES. This team had major injuries earlier in the season and mid season, but weathered the storm. Him, nor his teammates, aren't in ENDLESS trade rumors during those losing slumps unlike every team Lebron is on. Truly fosters a positive work environment.

The Steph Era. Happy to be a part of it.


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lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#514 » by dcstanley » Sat May 13, 2023 5:08 pm

Onus wrote:
nikster wrote:
Marrrcuss wrote:Ok, im going to concede Miami even though i thought outside the big 3, they sucked.

When else was it "stacked" ?

I agree. Just didn't think that argument would fly with this guy so I kept it simple lol

Imagine Klay Thompson as your 2nd best scorer and considering that team stacked. People are complaining about Jamal Murray as a 2nd option yet he's been offensively better than Klay in the playoffs. Yea Steph's teams are stacked. When Steph has a legit 2nd option like KD no one stood a chance. When Lebron has a legit 2nd option like Wade, Kyrie, and AD everyone else still beat him.

Lebron in his 20th season with a torn tendon in his foot just outplayed healthy Steph in his 14th season in a playoff series (yet another series where Steph is outclassed by Lebron). Thoughts?
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Post#515 » by dcstanley » Sat May 13, 2023 5:16 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
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Onus wrote:Imagine Klay Thompson as your 2nd best scorer and considering that team stacked. People are complaining about Jamal Murray as a 2nd option yet he's been offensively better than Klay in the playoffs. Yea Steph's teams are stacked. When Steph has a legit 2nd option like KD no one stood a chance. When Lebron has a legit 2nd option like Wade, Kyrie, and AD everyone else still beat him.


LeBron had a healthy Kyrie for two years and he went 1-1 (the 1 loss comes against the most stacked team ever).

AD has been healthy for two playoff runs with LeBron - they won the ring in 2020 and now are in a good position in the 2nd round.

The only time LeBron had a healthy 2nd option and he lost was in 2011 (outside of 2017). I love how Warriors fans talk about Curry beating Lebron and aggregate 2018 in there. Like 2018 Finals might have been the most lopsided ever in terms of talent, but yeah hurr durr Curry>>>>LeBron.

Curry has never been better or close to LeBron as a player. It is what it is.


Bron fans never could come up with reasons though, that's why they resort to muzzling people who point out the obvious. You should know shouldn't you?

I demand an explanation as to why the best player of his era couldn't outplay a 40 year old playing with a torn tendon in his foot.
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Post#516 » by WarriorGM » Sat May 13, 2023 7:20 pm

dcstanley wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:
LeBron had a healthy Kyrie for two years and he went 1-1 (the 1 loss comes against the most stacked team ever).

AD has been healthy for two playoff runs with LeBron - they won the ring in 2020 and now are in a good position in the 2nd round.

The only time LeBron had a healthy 2nd option and he lost was in 2011 (outside of 2017). I love how Warriors fans talk about Curry beating Lebron and aggregate 2018 in there. Like 2018 Finals might have been the most lopsided ever in terms of talent, but yeah hurr durr Curry>>>>LeBron.

Curry has never been better or close to LeBron as a player. It is what it is.


Bron fans never could come up with reasons though, that's why they resort to muzzling people who point out the obvious. You should know shouldn't you?

I demand an explanation as to why the best player of his era couldn't outplay a 40 year old playing with a torn tendon in his foot.


Who was their best teammate? Whose team got 20+ more free throws in three wins?
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Post#517 » by Homer38 » Sat May 13, 2023 7:21 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
dcstanley wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Bron fans never could come up with reasons though, that's why they resort to muzzling people who point out the obvious. You should know shouldn't you?

I demand an explanation as to why the best player of his era couldn't outplay a 40 year old playing with a torn tendon in his foot.


Who was their best teammate?


Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018
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Post#518 » by WarriorGM » Sat May 13, 2023 8:05 pm

Homer38 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
dcstanley wrote:I demand an explanation as to why the best player of his era couldn't outplay a 40 year old playing with a torn tendon in his foot.


Who was their best teammate?


Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018


I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.
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Post#519 » by Homer38 » Sat May 13, 2023 8:10 pm

WarriorGM wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Who was their best teammate?


Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018


I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.


Compare the roster,top to bottom.....
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Post#520 » by WarriorGM » Sat May 13, 2023 8:21 pm

Homer38 wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
Better that the best teammate of LBJ in 2015 and 2018


I don't recall anyone on the 2015 Cavaliers going -27 and -26 in less than 25 minutes in two games or going 3 of 19. Kevin Love in 2018 was far better than that.


Compare the roster,top to bottom.....


Wiggins with his rib injury? Looney and GPII with the vomit inducing bug? True there was probably some young talent on the bench the coach refused for some reason to play the whole season but it does raise the question of whether Kerr is as good a coach as people say. Be careful this might boomerang on you especially if Jimmy Butler can bring a 34 year old Kevin Love to a championship.

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