Trade Thread Tread pt.2 2023-24 - (Off-season)

[CelticFaninLBC]

I want allen still.
Or wcjr

Those are ideal front court guys.

Still think Brown and Timelord for Harland and allen could be a thing.

Brown, brogdon and Kornet
For
Garland, allen and wade

Garland/pritchard
Smart/white
Tatum/??
??/gallo
Allen/horford

Still needing a starting pf and a backup sf.
But have draft and taxpayers mle.

Look to houston for 1 of their many pfs.

Surely Jaylen would love to resign with Cleveland.

[Larry_Russell]

I want allen still.
Or wcjr

Those are ideal front court guys.

Still think Brown and Timelord for Harland and allen could be a thing.

Brown, brogdon and Kornet
For
Garland, allen and wade

Garland/pritchard
Smart/white
Tatum/??
??/gallo
Allen/horford

Still needing a starting pf and a backup sf.
But have draft and taxpayers mle.

Look to houston for 1 of their many pfs.

Don't see that as likely... Garland>Brown and Allen>RWilliams.

Dont let the hate blind you. Garland is not better than brown.

[Larry_Russell]

I want allen still.
Or wcjr

Those are ideal front court guys.

Still think Brown and Timelord for Harland and allen could be a thing.

Brown, brogdon and Kornet
For
Garland, allen and wade

Garland/pritchard
Smart/white
Tatum/??
??/gallo
Allen/horford

Still needing a starting pf and a backup sf.
But have draft and taxpayers mle.

Look to houston for 1 of their many pfs.

Surely Jaylen would love to resign with Cleveland.

Mitchell is one of browns closest friends...so probably yeah.

[Larry_Russell]

Brogdon and timelord to Orlando (imo upgrade lineup)

Brogdon
Suggs
Wagner
Banchero
Timelord

Pick #6

#11 to Houston
Now have 4 and 11 and 20 and a little more capspace (trade for vets)

Carter jr, eason and marting Jr to Boston

Smart/pritchard
Brown/white
Tatum/martin
Eason/gallo
Wcjr/horford

Sound reasonable?

[lon3lytoaster]

Read on Twitter

You’re probably at the wrong house if you get the door slammed on you six times

[playa-hater]

So true.

And why would the Celtics want young inexperienced players for JB when the Celts are gunning for Banner 18?


If and only if there is that deal the Celts can't refuse and it's also what JB wants, Cs are going to trade JB for a veteran star player who's in his prime.

Lottery pick and young players only sets back the Celtics at this point in time.

That is nothing more than a Bad narrative.. I mean look how well Rookie Murray on Sac helped the team. The Narrative was 7 undrafted players (3 starters) can't beat a team of lottery picks.. yet.

Getting potentially 3 young talents > paying Brown 300 million shouldn't be a debate.

PLUS. how well has it been working with our "veteran core" lately? the last 3 seasons??

You want to win, well JB was fully healthy and was horrible. Having Low IQ players who are turnover prone is not the answer. Factor in his defense was putrid so many times. How much video/game evidence does one need before they see this??

Addition Brown may love playing for Houston so even if you don't think the talent is equal, the odds of getting much better return is not likely. But a better "fit" may go along way to making Boston a better team.

At worst you trade for young talent like Smith, Eason, and the #4 pick. You've cut needed salary, and now have young cost-controlled trade assets that Brad can work with. This would take MAJOR cojones, that I don't know Brad has. But if he did, he would be legend.

I am guessing the Owners would love this trade as well.

[The Corey's]

Read on Twitter

You’re probably at the wrong house if you get the door slammed on you six times

Holy **** what a burn

[BK_2020]

I don't get this "Don't break up the team if you keep failing but not completely failing." Should we have kept Semi, Theis, and paid $30 mil. a year to keep Hayward just because they were on teams that kept coming close? The decision to trade Jaylen or not should not lean on what the team as a whole did. It should be based on what Jaylen offers to the team and the likelihood of better allocation of assets.
The Celtics were at the door step for many years now. For almost every single one of those regular seasons and post seasons, Jaylen Brown has posted some of the worst on/off on the Celtics. His skillset of medium-tier volume scoring on average efficiency is possibly the most cancerous of all archetypes in basketball. There's no reason to think that Jaylen Brown is the reason we've been at the door step so often and that Jaylen Brown is critical or even beneficial to going beyond.

[BK_2020]

I want allen still.
Or wcjr

Those are ideal front court guys.

Still think Brown and Timelord for Harland and allen could be a thing.

Brown, brogdon and Kornet
For
Garland, allen and wade

Garland/pritchard
Smart/white
Tatum/??
??/gallo
Allen/horford

Still needing a starting pf and a backup sf.
But have draft and taxpayers mle.

Look to houston for 1 of their many pfs.

Don't see that as likely... Garland>Brown and Allen>RWilliams.

Dont let the hate blind you. Garland is not better than brown.

Garland pros:
3 point shooting with range out to 30 feet
Midrange game including floaters and runners
Almost 10 assists per 75, just under 3:1 assist to turnover ratio as a primary ballhandler
Great at running the PnR
Only 23 years old

Jaylen pros:
Good at midrange shots where he runs into the middle of the floor, bounces on three players, then turns around and jumps back 5 feet to shoot.
Almost 27 years old

I think it's debatable who's better now but not debatable who has more trade value.

[TSmith0197]

Don't see that as likely... Garland>Brown and Allen>RWilliams.

Dont let the hate blind you. Garland is not better than brown.

Garland pros:
3 point shooting with range out to 30 feet
Midrange game including floaters and runners
Almost 10 assists per 75, just under 3:1 assist to turnover ratio as a primary ballhandler
Great at running the PnR
Only 23 years old

Jaylen pros:
Good at midrange shots where he runs into the middle of the floor, bounces on three players, then turns around and jumps back 5 feet to shoot.
Almost 27 years old

I think it's debatable who's better now but not debatable who has more trade value.

I’m onboard with trading JB but your take is trash. At least give a real assessment on JB.

[bucknersrevenge]

Dont let the hate blind you. Garland is not better than brown.

Garland pros:
3 point shooting with range out to 30 feet
Midrange game including floaters and runners
Almost 10 assists per 75, just under 3:1 assist to turnover ratio as a primary ballhandler
Great at running the PnR
Only 23 years old

Jaylen pros:
Good at midrange shots where he runs into the middle of the floor, bounces on three players, then turns around and jumps back 5 feet to shoot.
Almost 27 years old

I think it's debatable who's better now but not debatable who has more trade value.

I’m onboard with trading JB but your take is trash. At least give a real assessment on JB.

What's the real assessment of JB?

[TSmith0197]

Garland pros:
3 point shooting with range out to 30 feet
Midrange game including floaters and runners
Almost 10 assists per 75, just under 3:1 assist to turnover ratio as a primary ballhandler
Great at running the PnR
Only 23 years old

Jaylen pros:
Good at midrange shots where he runs into the middle of the floor, bounces on three players, then turns around and jumps back 5 feet to shoot.
Almost 27 years old

I think it's debatable who's better now but not debatable who has more trade value.

I’m onboard with trading JB but your take is trash. At least give a real assessment on JB.

What's the real assessment of JB?

I’m not the JB hater. Why don’t you ask the Gods Gift to basketball evaluations BK2020.

[NotAKnicksFan]

Jaylen for ja morant
Then brogdon for rozier
Then sign dillon brooks

Morant / Rozier
White / Rozier
Brooks / danillo
Tatum / danillo
Rob williams / horford

More tweeks but more or less

[BK_2020]

I’m onboard with trading JB but your take is trash. At least give a real assessment on JB.

What's the real assessment of JB?

I’m not the JB hater. Why don’t you ask the Gods Gift to basketball evaluations BK2020.

You got issues bro lmao. Anytime you find yourself personally attacking random internet people you should really reassess your life and also realize there's always the option of ignoring someone.
Here's a fun meme to brighten up your day.

[Ben-N1ce]

Jaylen isn't getting traded for at least a year. Think of other trades. That being said Jaylen is overrated. His actual impact on the court...there are plenty of non max players with better or comparable impact without question.

[BK_2020]

I don't know if it's been mentioned or not but Marcus Smart plus picks for Myles Turner might be a possible path to upgrade our front court. Marcus Smart only because salaries match and Brogdon already came from there. Indy probably doesn't want Smart so either make it a 3 way with more picks going to Indy or Indy holds on to him as an asset.

[Celts17Pride]

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“Ime gets fired, Rob Williams goes down, if you asked anyone at that point, ‘Hey if the Celtics get to the seventh game of the East finals, will this year be a success?’ they’d say yes. Of course,” the exec said last weekend. “Now, you want to fire the coach? Or better yet, you want to trade one of the best 15 players in the game? They will trade Jaylen Brown—if they have to. If he says, ‘I am not staying here.’ But not before that. He’d have to ask out.

“What do you think you’re gonna get for Jaylen that is gonna improve you? Trae Young? Jordan Poole? Throw out a name, and the answer is almost definitely, no. No, it’s not there. Giannis (Antetokounmpo), (Nikola) Jokic, Luka (Doncic). Maybe those guys. But really, no one else.”



It's common sense. This forum needs someone to kick around. For many years it was Marcus Smart, now it's Jaylen Brown. Would be interesting to see if Smart and Brown were gone who the next player would be that this forum would kick around.

100% guarantee it would be someone.

[NotAKnicksFan]

Does a core of ja morant and tatum work ?

Trade for myles turner to replace horford

Morant - white
Smart - white
Rozier - tatum
Tatum - gallo
Turner / rob williams

Tell me this team doesnt wipe out miami in 4 games max

[hugepatsfan]

It doesn’t have to be one extreme or the other. People like our only options are to either completely blow it up and trade everyone or to do nothing and just run it back.

You have to acknowledge the good things that keep getting us to the brink of a championship and also the things that keep holding us back. When you keep falling short every player should be up for discussion but how far we keep getting (even if not all the way) is the result of what our guys contribute so you don’t want to just give them away either.

Trading Brown for a high pick or still young players probably isn’t the best way to go. But moving him for a comparable or maybe even lesser player in the name of roster balance? Fair game IMO. As good as Smart and White are there’s certainly duplication there and maybe one of them could be moved for a piece elsewhere. Brogdon brought some skills to this team we lacked but moving him shouldn’t be off the table. Rob is a huge part of what we do but his availability is concerning. Grant has had good moments but a price limit needs to be set on him.

I’d say the only guys that don’t make sense to move are Tatum and Horford. Tatum for obvious reasons. Horford because it’s just not likely he’d ever be more than salary throw in and we could cobble together that money elsewhere without losing a still solid contributor.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

More info on Jaylen: Supposedly buying side-by-side condos at the St. Regis in the Seaport,
planning to knock down the walls, and convert them into one large unit. Cr: Greg Hill