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Re: Amen & Ausar Thompson - Potential 2022 NBA Draft Guys 

Post#381 » by PerkinsFor3 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 8:12 pm

Rafael122 wrote:Have yall seen that clip of Amen's form during the Blazers workout? Getting MKG flashbacks...

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Post#382 » by Lockdown504090 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 9:10 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:Have yall seen that clip of Amen's form during the Blazers workout? Getting MKG flashbacks...

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amen thompson can be a 30 percent shooter and still be an all star, hes that good. Hes mentally tougher than ben simmons, so i expect him to keep rebuilding the shot.

I will say, he cancelled his pro day due to that video clip. sum1 just posted tho.
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Post#383 » by K_chile22 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 12:41 am

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Rafael122 wrote:Have yall seen that clip of Amen's form during the Blazers workout? Getting MKG flashbacks...

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amen thompson can be a 30 percent shooter and still be an all star, hes that good. Hes mentally tougher than ben simmons, so i expect him to keep rebuilding the shot.

I will say, he cancelled his pro day due to that video clip. sum1 just posted tho.


Seen people saying this on twitter but I don't think it's true. They never had a pro day planned. Pro days are organized by agents to use their big time players to get teams in the door and see the rest of their clientele. The Thompson twins agent is their father. That's why there's no pro day
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Post#384 » by Lockdown504090 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 3:35 am

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PerkinsFor3 wrote:Justise Winslow

amen thompson can be a 30 percent shooter and still be an all star, hes that good. Hes mentally tougher than ben simmons, so i expect him to keep rebuilding the shot.

I will say, he cancelled his pro day due to that video clip. sum1 just posted tho.


Seen people saying this on twitter but I don't think it's true. They never had a pro day planned. Pro days are organized by agents to use their big time players to get teams in the door and see the rest of their clientele. The Thompson twins agent is their father. That's why there's no pro day

That’s a good detail to have. I’ve seen amen shoot it a little better, so I think he’s going through a stage of rebuilding the shot. I think he just can’t go well at full speed yet. What I saw was him with a. Wider base. I will say though. Some skill trainer is friggen with his shot…. Nobody shoots off to the side like that.
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Post#385 » by mattao313 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 5:45 am

Why don't these Youngs guys that cant shoot rebuild their shoot before getting drafted, I never understand why it so many of these prospects with terrible jumpers. Hire someone to fix that jumper a lot of these guys get money now or have access to a lot of coaches.

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Post#386 » by The Moose » Sat Jun 3, 2023 12:01 pm

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The Moose wrote:KOC still has them both in the top 5 though, which isn't smart.
And he still has Amen 4, Ausar 5 on the ringer big board despite what he tweeted


I don't think KOC is one of those guys that updates his mock every 2-3 days. Draft is in 3 weeks so I'm guessing he updates it 2 or 3 times before then.


Yeah, I'm talking about his big board though, which he updates pretty regularly

He actually tweeted last week that he was moving Ausar over Amen on his board, he then did switch Ausar over Amen at 4/5. A couple of days later though he deleted that tweet and moved his rankings back, and now again he is tweeting that he is moving Ausar over Amen, except hasn't done so yet.

I can't really keep up with KOC, he never had Klintman on his top 40 board for the entire season, until suddenly Klintman went from unranked to 15, after the season had already ended. He should just be upfront that his big board is mainly based on the intel he hears around the league
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Post#387 » by EMG518 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 2:30 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:
The Moose wrote:KOC still has them both in the top 5 though, which isn't smart.
And he still has Amen 4, Ausar 5 on the ringer big board despite what he tweeted


I don't think KOC is one of those guys that updates his mock every 2-3 days. Draft is in 3 weeks so I'm guessing he updates it 2 or 3 times before then.


Yeah, I'm talking about his big board though, which he updates pretty regularly

He actually tweeted last week that he was moving Ausar over Amen on his board, he then did switch Ausar over Amen at 4/5. A couple of days later though he deleted that tweet and moved his rankings back, and now again he is tweeting that he is moving Ausar over Amen, except hasn't done so yet.

I can't really keep up with KOC, he never had Klintman on his top 40 board for the entire season, until suddenly Klintman went from unranked to 15, after the season had already ended. He should just be upfront that his big board is mainly based on the intel he hears around the league



I think he probably just doesn't have everyone scouted and that"s why you see someone that isn't ranked all of a sudden at 15. His boards are too different imo for it to be based off of intel, he had Killian Hayes at #1.
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Post#388 » by Rafael122 » Sat Jun 3, 2023 6:00 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:
I don't think KOC is one of those guys that updates his mock every 2-3 days. Draft is in 3 weeks so I'm guessing he updates it 2 or 3 times before then.


Yeah, I'm talking about his big board though, which he updates pretty regularly

He actually tweeted last week that he was moving Ausar over Amen on his board, he then did switch Ausar over Amen at 4/5. A couple of days later though he deleted that tweet and moved his rankings back, and now again he is tweeting that he is moving Ausar over Amen, except hasn't done so yet.

I can't really keep up with KOC, he never had Klintman on his top 40 board for the entire season, until suddenly Klintman went from unranked to 15, after the season had already ended. He should just be upfront that his big board is mainly based on the intel he hears around the league



I think he probably just doesn't have everyone scouted and that"s why you see someone that isn't ranked all of a sudden at 15. His boards are too different imo for it to be based off of intel, he had Killian Hayes at #1.


Was it KOC or Russillo who was riding that Hayes bus? Good lord that was a bad take.
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Post#389 » by jezzerinho » Sat Jun 3, 2023 9:32 pm

The Moose wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:
The Moose wrote:KOC still has them both in the top 5 though, which isn't smart.
And he still has Amen 4, Ausar 5 on the ringer big board despite what he tweeted


I don't think KOC is one of those guys that updates his mock every 2-3 days. Draft is in 3 weeks so I'm guessing he updates it 2 or 3 times before then.


Yeah, I'm talking about his big board though, which he updates pretty regularly

He actually tweeted last week that he was moving Ausar over Amen on his board, he then did switch Ausar over Amen at 4/5. A couple of days later though he deleted that tweet and moved his rankings back, and now again he is tweeting that he is moving Ausar over Amen, except hasn't done so yet.

I can't really keep up with KOC, he never had Klintman on his top 40 board for the entire season, until suddenly Klintman went from unranked to 15, after the season had already ended. He should just be upfront that his big board is mainly based on the intel he hears around the league


Theyre all at it frankly. Too much groupthink.
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Post#390 » by Big J » Sun Jun 4, 2023 2:33 am

Rafael122 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
The Moose wrote:
Yeah, I'm talking about his big board though, which he updates pretty regularly

He actually tweeted last week that he was moving Ausar over Amen on his board, he then did switch Ausar over Amen at 4/5. A couple of days later though he deleted that tweet and moved his rankings back, and now again he is tweeting that he is moving Ausar over Amen, except hasn't done so yet.

I can't really keep up with KOC, he never had Klintman on his top 40 board for the entire season, until suddenly Klintman went from unranked to 15, after the season had already ended. He should just be upfront that his big board is mainly based on the intel he hears around the league



I think he probably just doesn't have everyone scouted and that"s why you see someone that isn't ranked all of a sudden at 15. His boards are too different imo for it to be based off of intel, he had Killian Hayes at #1.


Was it KOC or Russillo who was riding that Hayes bus? Good lord that was a bad take.


Even though he was wrong it was honestly it was a fresh of breath air. Too many guys just look at consensus and move a guy up or down 1 spot here or there so that they don't look stupid after the fact.
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Post#391 » by kobyz » Sun Jun 4, 2023 7:15 pm

Does Amen have Penny Hardway potential?
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Post#392 » by Notanoob » Mon Jun 5, 2023 9:24 am

Rafael122 wrote:Was it KOC or Russillo who was riding that Hayes bus? Good lord that was a bad take.

It was KOC who loved him. Guy just has never learned to shoot well enough for his other skills to matter, crying shame.

Speaking of guys who can't score, someone on reddit posted some synergy stats for Ausar Thompson - he was 15-37 on layups during half-court offense, just 40%. 8 dunks. For all of that athleticism if he can't attack the basket in the half court in OTE with the way his shot looks he's going to be a disaster on offense.

Amen Thompson on the other hand was had 16 dunks in the half court and shot 59% at the rim on 71 attempts. It's still a problem that his jump shot looks as bad as it does but being able to pressure the rim and pass like he does gives an NBA team plenty to work with. I think that Amen is solidly the #4 prospect, maybe as good as #2 while I'd drop Ausar pretty far.
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Post#393 » by NO-KG-AI » Mon Jun 5, 2023 9:49 am

kobyz wrote:Does Amen have Penny Hardway potential?


I dunno he supposedly has all the things you'd see from Penny, on paper, but Penny was a prodigy at every level. He had some of the dumbest high school stats I can remember, was a stud right out of the gates at Memphis, etc.

Amen, for all the talk of his generational athleticism and passing ability at that age, he hasn't dominated anything like you'd expect of someone if he had Penny Hardaway level talent.
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Post#394 » by SeattleJazzFan » Mon Jun 5, 2023 3:38 pm

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Rafael122 wrote:Have yall seen that clip of Amen's form during the Blazers workout? Getting MKG flashbacks...

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amen thompson can be a 30 percent shooter and still be an all star, hes that good. Hes mentally tougher than ben simmons, so i expect him to keep rebuilding the shot.

I will say, he cancelled his pro day due to that video clip. sum1 just posted tho.


"he's mentally tougher than ben simmons" interesting that you seem so confident in that assessment. how do you measure mental toughness?
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Post#395 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:20 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
PerkinsFor3 wrote:Justise Winslow

amen thompson can be a 30 percent shooter and still be an all star, hes that good. Hes mentally tougher than ben simmons, so i expect him to keep rebuilding the shot.

I will say, he cancelled his pro day due to that video clip. sum1 just posted tho.


"he's mentally tougher than ben simmons" interesting that you seem so confident in that assessment. how do you measure mental toughness?

Great question!!
He’s had games where he’s shooting poorly and continued to shoot the ball. So he’s had those 6-17 type of games before. Ben at any age hadn’t done that. He was shooting really high percentages at lsu for that era and wasn’t asked to shoot at all, and would sometimes pass to teammates for terrible looks instead of taking less than ideal shots himself in the half court. Amen plays more to get a good shot for his TEAM even if it means him taking a shot he’s not great at, largel y because he played with his brother his whole life and they really like to set each other up.

The mentality is like this, “ I can’t pass ausar this grenade at the end of the clock and make him look bad” if you watch the finals games from ote, you’ll see this actually. When it’s swung to him, he shoots. When they go under the screen l, he attacks with the shot or drive. That wasn’t in the film for Ben. They also played for harder coaches. There’s an interview with their head coach on the field of 68 YouTube where they talk about their agresssiveness on offense in a very frank and real way.
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Post#396 » by big-shot-ROB » Mon Jun 5, 2023 9:08 pm

My only reason for keeping Amen at 4th is I'm trusting he can get his jumper to at least close to Fox's. And then you have a 6`7 better playmaking Fox. I guess it is easy to say though when the Celtics don't have any money put in the lottery.

Ausar scares me to be honest. He lacks the top end talent Amen has and I feel he's been getting along by being more focused. He's a better defender and if you trust his PO's % a better shooter but I feel that is a product of him being more disciplined by acnkowledging his limations compared to his brother.

If the shot is not real and his athletic ability doesn't pop in the next level he's going to struggle a lot in any half court setting
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Post#397 » by drone3 » Tue Jun 6, 2023 8:40 am

Amen and Shaedon Sharp would be an insane duo. The combined athletiscm and Ying Yang of strengths and weaknesses would be on point.
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Post#398 » by One_and_Done » Tue Jun 6, 2023 8:45 am

So many prospects would be good if they just developed a shot. Few do.
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Post#399 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 6, 2023 4:05 pm

One_and_Done wrote:So many prospects would be good if they just developed a shot. Few do.

Yup. That's the risk. Of course, the ones that do develop a shot go on to be Hall of Famers and everyone wonders how they got drafted so late. See Kawhi Leonard.
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Post#400 » by Big J » Tue Jun 6, 2023 4:16 pm

nate33 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:So many prospects would be good if they just developed a shot. Few do.

Yup. That's the risk. Of course, the ones that do develop a shot go on to be Hall of Famers and everyone wonders how they got drafted so late. See Kawhi Leonard.


Some dudes don’t even need to develop a reliable jumper to be great. Look at Giannis.

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