So did Joe save his head coaching job?

[Marvel]

I mean it's probably a loss when Tatum is hurt in Game 7.

The point is it shouldn't have even come to that. If Mazzula does his job in games 1-3 and they win at least one of those games, there is no game 7 and most likely the Celtics win the series.

Joe should be out. We don't have years and years to wait for Joe to become an experienced playoff coach.

We have been waiting for Brown for years and years to clean up his handles and improve his assist to TO ratio. Or to be clutch in close games. We know it's not going to happen. We stop waiting for it.

I thought it would happen about 2 seasons ago when his handle at least looked like it had tightened up. But since then his handle has gotten much worse...like what in the...and his ft shooting has only gotten marginally better also and now his 3 point shooting has gotten a bit worse. So his handles, ft shooting and 3 point shooting has taken a hit over the past 3 seasons but let's pay him the supermax!!

[Ben-N1ce]

Most damning part?

He couldn't even get these guys to give maximum defensive effort in a Game 7 with a trip to the Finals on the line.

If they bring him back next season,what reason will there be to watch? They just told you they are punting on the season by keeping him.

You know what's amazing. I listened to his post game and someone asked him looking back on the 1st 3 games were you dug yourself a hole do look at anything you could have done . He freaking said no What coach say no...

2:35 in

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People really need to stop letting it bother them so much what Mazzulla says in interviews.

Clearly the guy doesn't like doing them, doing interviews is clearly not his forte, he seems uncomfortable doing them, he's not the kind of guy who likes the spotlight. He gives short answers, so he can try to get the interview moving along and over with ASAP so he can go and do something he actually enjoys doing.

Lots of coaches have been like this - Popovich, Belichik, etc.

I take anything he says in an interview with a grain of salt.

Find me a time when Bill didn't take ownership and say he can be better and didn't do good enough. He's says it after every single loss..regular season post season...all of them. Every single one without exception. Joe is mister know it all year one...

[Fierce1]

Celts play .500 ball to start the season in 2023-24 and Joe will get fired in January.

[BirdLegend33]

Most damning part?

He couldn't even get these guys to give maximum defensive effort in a Game 7 with a trip to the Finals on the line.

If they bring him back next season,what reason will there be to watch? They just told you they are punting on the season by keeping him.

You know what's amazing. I listened to his post game and someone asked him looking back on the 1st 3 games were you dug yourself a hole do look at anything you could have done . He freaking said no What coach say no...

2:35 in

Watch on YouTube

People really need to stop letting it bother them so much what Mazzulla says in interviews.

Clearly the guy doesn't like doing them, doing interviews is clearly not his forte, he seems uncomfortable doing them, he's not the kind of guy who likes the spotlight. He gives short answers, so he can try to get the interview moving along and over with ASAP so he can go and do something he actually enjoys doing.

Lots of coaches have been like this - Popovich, Belichik, etc.

I take anything he says in an interview with a grain of salt.

Are you seriously comparing Joe Mazzula to Popovich and Belichick??

You can't be serious???

Once Mazzula has the resume of Popovich or Belichick, he can get away with the way he does interviews. Until then, everything he says is under scrutiny and that's just the way it's going to be.

[Hal14]

You know what's amazing. I listened to his post game and someone asked him looking back on the 1st 3 games were you dug yourself a hole do look at anything you could have done . He freaking said no What coach say no...

2:35 in

Watch on YouTube

People really need to stop letting it bother them so much what Mazzulla says in interviews.

Clearly the guy doesn't like doing them, doing interviews is clearly not his forte, he seems uncomfortable doing them, he's not the kind of guy who likes the spotlight. He gives short answers, so he can try to get the interview moving along and over with ASAP so he can go and do something he actually enjoys doing.

Lots of coaches have been like this - Popovich, Belichik, etc.

I take anything he says in an interview with a grain of salt.

Are you seriously comparing Joe Mazzula to Popovich and Belichick??

You can't be serious???

Once Mazzula has the resume of Popovich or Belichick, he can get away with the way he does interviews. Until then, everything he says is under scrutiny and that's just the way it's going to be.

I'm not comparing them as coaches. Just saying that lots of coaches and players too like Bird for example, Maravich, etc.) weren't that great with the media either. Bob Huggins (Mazzulla's mentor, who coached him at West Virginia) is the same way - he can be curt with the media.

Has nothing to do with resume. It's simply the personality that many coaches/players have. Bird, Maravich, Popovich, Belichik, Huggins, etc. none of them waited till they built up a resume with a bunch of championships before they became more short/bland with the media. It doesn't work like that. It's just their personality.

[Hal14]

You know what's amazing. I listened to his post game and someone asked him looking back on the 1st 3 games were you dug yourself a hole do look at anything you could have done . He freaking said no What coach say no...

2:35 in

Watch on YouTube

People really need to stop letting it bother them so much what Mazzulla says in interviews.

Clearly the guy doesn't like doing them, doing interviews is clearly not his forte, he seems uncomfortable doing them, he's not the kind of guy who likes the spotlight. He gives short answers, so he can try to get the interview moving along and over with ASAP so he can go and do something he actually enjoys doing.

Lots of coaches have been like this - Popovich, Belichik, etc.

I take anything he says in an interview with a grain of salt.

Find me a time when Bill didn't take ownership and say he can be better and didn't do good enough. He's says it after every single loss..regular season post season...all of them. Every single one without exception. Joe is mister know it all year one...

Huh? Mazzulla has taken ownership plenty of times and said that he could do a better job.

I think you completely missed the point of my post, though. My point is, that many coaches/players aren't great at doing interviews/don't like doing them/are uncomfortable doing them so they will often give short answers, vague answers, or sometimes their answers might not seem to make sense, or might not seem to be the right thing to say. It doesn't make them a bad coach/player - and it's best to not read too deeply into what they say in interviews.

[Garbanzo]

Unlike many, I think Joe is a coach with great potential

His coaching style is the last thing this Celtics team needs though

[captain green]

If he's the head coach next year we ain't going to finals. There are legit coaches available that can win the chip. Then we all know the coaches that ain't going to as well. He is lacking or is avg in every aspect of a coach. So brad if you want to waste another year keep him. Smh

[Grahf]

Vogel would seem to be the obvious choice. Defensive minded with tons of experience and a ring. I like Joe a lot and I'm betting he'll be an excellent head coach some day, but it's clear he's not ready yet.

[shackles10]

He most likely saved his job. Whether we wanted him to or not is a different question. He's not completely horrible. He would have made more sense getting experience on a young team not competing for the playoffs even, let alone a title, but here we are. With the group we currently have on roster I struggle to see him as the right fit as a coach and only part of that equation is experience.

[Green89]

We would have won more playoff games with a better head coach. Fact. Most likely would not have been in game 7 with the Heat, Jayson doesn't roll his ankle, and we're probably in the Finals. Would we have won it all with a bette coach? Not going to say yes, but I will say, a better coach would have had us in the Finals this year. We threw away a potential title season by him being Brad's choice.

[zoyathedestroya]

It's okay. If Brad really thinks Joe is the guy, then it's at least three straight titles after getting his feet wet last season.

[Triple7]

We would have won more playoff games with a better head coach. Fact. Most likely would not have been in game 7 with the Heat, Jayson doesn't roll his ankle, and we're probably in the Finals. Would we have won it all with a bette coach? Not going to say yes, but I will say, a better coach would have had us in the Finals this year. We threw away a potential title season by him being Brad's choice.

Brad screwed us! Of course he would stand by his decision. He knows he **** up by giving Joe his contract prematurely. He just won’t admit it.

[robbie84]

If Brad doesn't fire him, Brad needs to be fired. Wyc going to pay the luxury tax for this crap? Maybe he is just happy to have playoff revenue but I doubt it.

They were one game away from the finals.
2nd best offense in the league. 2nd best defense in the league. 2nd best record in the league. Some tweaks need to be made but don't go suicidal.
Give credit to the Heat for bringing it come playoff time. They got hot, we hit a bad patch.
Maybe we need to take a page out of their book and chill out on certain guys minutes and focus on process, rest etc..

[playa-hater]

When a team is still fresh coming off a tough and emotional loss like ours in a game 7, it is quite normal for most of us to be thinking or reacting through our emotions rather than using sound judgment. Emotions tend to cloud our better judgments at that time.

It's been around a week and most of my emotions are gone (perhaps I am rather Numb) but my "Clarity" on our coaching situation is better now than last week.

With that statement I am still as blown away as ever that Joe is still here. Just watching Denver dismantle the Zone in one game while we sucked against Miami all playoffs/season is just one example of so many that Joe is way out of league right now.

I have said it many times and will say it again. Clearly not all Joe's fault. Better more unselfish/IQ players will be needed. But Also having a coach who is far more respected and perhaps experienced will go such a long way deep in the playoffs.

For the couple of posters who believe Joe has "great coaching potential".. Maybe one day. Can't say Yes or No.. But for our team at this time, he is a horrible fit. I am still shocked anyone can defend him at this time. And deeply saddened that our POBO/owners can't see it as well.

[GoGreen]

Unlike many, I think Joe is a coach with great potential

His coaching style is the last thing this Celtics team needs though

1000% this. I don't think Joe can't be a HC somewhere at some point with success. But right now with these guys? Imo, nah.

[Garbanzo]

When a team is still fresh coming off a tough and emotional loss like ours in a game 7, it is quite normal for most of us to be thinking or reacting through our emotions rather than using sound judgment. Emotions tend to cloud our better judgments at that time.

It's been around a week and most of my emotions are gone (perhaps I am rather Numb) but my "Clarity" on our coaching situation is better now than last week.

With that statement I am still as blown away as ever that Joe is still here. Just watching Denver dismantle the Zone in one game while we sucked against Miami all playoffs/season is just one example of so many that Joe is way out of league right now.

I have said it many times and will say it again. Clearly not all Joe's fault. Better more unselfish/IQ players will be needed. But Also having a coach who is far more respected and perhaps experienced will go such a long way deep in the playoffs.

For the couple of posters who believe Joe has "great coaching potential".. Maybe one day. Can't say Yes or No.. But for our team at this time, he is a horrible fit. I am still shocked anyone can defend him at this time. And deeply saddened that our POBO/owners can't see it as well.

Not that I don't agree with you in general, but it's much easier to break a zone with Jokic on your team

I think he is a good coach when you have players with high basketball iq, who can read and react fast and we'll, and use the situations Joe is good at positioning his team in.

Celtics team though.. You have Al getting the ball alone within the basket and just throws it out to a three
This is not because of Mazzula by the way, it has happened last year as well