Twitter Trade Rumor Roundup

[mighty_duck]

I would not trade useful assets for Zion.
Even in college, there was something wrong about the way he walked around. That body is not meant for an NBA season.

And we've had enough heartbreak with Oden and Roy. It sucks starting every season as a paper contender, only to watch every game waiting for those knees and ankles to break down.

[RTG HD]

I would not trade useful assets for Zion.
Even in college, there was something wrong about the way he walked around. That body is not meant for an NBA season.

And we've had enough heartbreak with Oden and Roy. It sucks starting every season as a paper contender, only to watch every game waiting for those knees and ankles to break down.

Roy gave us some good years. Oden was unfortunately broken every year from the start.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

It sucks starting every season as a paper contender, only to watch every game waiting for those knees and ankles to break down.

I feel this so hard. The process of getting excited hoping this is the season he can stay healthy and then disappointed and hoping next season is the one would be too hard to deal with. Putting your fate in that takes agency out of your hands, you never get an answer to whether *if healthy* you are good enough so you just keep stringing yourself along.

Really come to value consistency more and more these days.

[Effigy]

Wait who just called Oladipo a solid piece? These Dame/3 trades are getting laughable

Who the **** said we were giving up the 3+Dame? This trade was just for Dame, not sure what you are talking about. Oladipo also was a good player some time ago maybe injuries have taken that away.

There is no way we give up the 3+Dame I can't imagine any trade that ends up with that.

pretty sure when he wrote Dame/3 that meant either/or, not both

and he's right that a lot of these trade-Dame and trade-3 ideas are pretty bad

Maybe, but history tells us that whatever trade Portland winds up making is going to be disappointing to a lot of us in here. Teams rarely get the value for their players that the fans think they should. How many times have we seen fans propose a trade that the other team's fans say 'oh we would never consider this' only to see that team make an even worse deal than what was originally proposed by the fan? Even when the team wins the trade, fans sometimes don't realize it right away. Remember when Bill Simmons was mad about the Pierce/KG trade? Lol.

[DusterBuster]

Marc Stein on his substack talked about the Pelicans rumor, what he said he is hearing is that it is Zion they would like to move. Sounds like there are people within the Pelican's FO who are just fed up with Zion and ready to move on. He also said he heard from people in the league that the Hornets are not interested in Zion, they would rather keep their pick.

[The Sebastian Express]

Marc Stein on his substack talked about the Pelicans rumor, what he said he is hearing is that it is Zion they would like to move. Sounds like there are people within the Pelican's FO who are just fed up with Zion and ready to move on. He also said he heard from people in the league that the Hornets are not interested in Zion, they would rather keep their pick.

So I think that could be smoke just to try to get more out of the Pelicans.

But also I'm pretty convinced no matter what, regardless what is being said right now, that the Hornets are going to take and keep Scoot. I'm not getting my hopes up on him being there at three.

But if he was and if the Pelicans really did offer Zion..

Man... that would be hard to turn down. But also I'm a pretty big optimist in terms of trying to turn people around as we saw with my being okay with going after Simmons (prior to his back injury).

[zzaj]

Not surprising. Zion has played in 114 games in 4 years...roughly 1/3 of possible games. I don't care how great he is, he can't shoot basketballs from the IR.

[DusterBuster]

Marc Stein on his substack talked about the Pelicans rumor, what he said he is hearing is that it is Zion they would like to move. Sounds like there are people within the Pelican's FO who are just fed up with Zion and ready to move on. He also said he heard from people in the league that the Hornets are not interested in Zion, they would rather keep their pick.

So I think that could be smoke just to try to get more out of the Pelicans.

But also I'm pretty convinced no matter what, regardless what is being said right now, that the Hornets are going to take and keep Scoot. I'm not getting my hopes up on him being there at three.

But if he was and if the Pelicans really did offer Zion..

Man... that would be hard to turn down. But also I'm a pretty big optimist in terms of trying to turn people around as we saw with my being okay with going after Simmons (prior to his back injury).

I'm not as convinced with Hornets + Scoot. Even the article about the workout reportedly said the Hornets are still expected to take Miller. Who knows tho, this stuff can change at a moment's notice.

I'm with you though, if that possibility to get Zion is there, you have to do it. His age and talent are the kind of thing you just have to take the risk with.

[The Sebastian Express]

Not surprising. Zion has played in 114 games in 4 years...roughly 1/3 of possible games. I don't care how great he is, he can't shoot basketballs from the IR.

Factually incorrect! He can shoot from the sidelines!

They won't count, but he can shoot!

[zzaj]

Not surprising. Zion has played in 114 games in 4 years...roughly 1/3 of possible games. I don't care how great he is, he can't shoot basketballs from the IR.

Factually incorrect! He can shoot from the sidelines!

They won't count, but he can shoot!

hee hee...I didn't say sidelines--I said injured reserve!

[Wizenheimer]

maybe it's just deja vue all over again, and again, but....

the time between the lottery and the draft is the NBA high season for distraction, deflection, agenda driven leaks, agent whispering, false rumors, lies, and total BS

and maybe it's just because Portland has the 3rd pick in what might be a 3-person draft so I'm paying more attention...but it seems to me there is a virtual tsunami of BS flooding over the NBA coastline right now, and it's probably time to apply the rule of opposites: If Charlotte has no desire for Zion, they do; If Portland wants to trade the 3rd pick, they won't; If Brooklyn won't trade, Bridges, they will. I don't believe anything I read or see right now, at least not without sitting directly in my skepticism recliner while chugging a 'believe-it-when-I-see-it' micro-brew

[DusterBuster]

maybe it's just deja vue all over again, and again, but....

the time between the lottery and the draft is the NBA high season for distraction, deflection, agenda driven leaks, agent whispering, false rumors, lies, and total BS

and maybe it's just because Portland has the 3rd pick in what might be a 3-person draft so I'm paying more attention...but it seems to me there is a virtual tsunami of BS flooding over the NBA coastline right now, and it's probably time to apply the rule of opposites: If Charlotte has no desire for Zion, they do; If Portland wants to trade the 3rd pick, they won't; If Brooklyn won't trade, Bridges, they will. I don't believe anything I read or see right now, at least not without sitting directly in my skepticism recliner while chugging a 'believe-it-when-I-see-it' micro-brew

Yep, same. I'm pretty much done engaging any outsiders coming to this board with their faux interest in "just having a conversation" about anything right now. At this point, just focusing on what we know is really happening is the best.

[DusterBuster]

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[Wizenheimer]

Yep, same. I'm pretty much done engaging any outsiders coming to this board with their faux interest in "just having a conversation" about anything right now. At this point, just focusing on what we know is really happening is the best.

if you think it's bad here, you should try Thanksgiving at my house with the in-laws

for me, that's a defensive drinking holiday

[DusterBuster]

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[monopoman]

The more time that passes the more you see teams trying to get a top 3 pick in this draft, if the Blazers indeed want to shop the pick they will have a wide array of possibilities.

We have now gotten reports of the following teams trying to get a top 3 pick, well before the draft.

Wizards
Pelicans

Maybe more that haven't made their intentions as clear.

[DusterBuster]

The more time that passes the more you see teams trying to get a top 3 pick in this draft, if the Blazers indeed want to shop the pick they will have a wide array of possibilities.

We have now gotten reports of the following teams trying to get a top 3 pick, well before the draft.

Wizards
Pelicans

Maybe more that haven't made their intentions as clear.

I think there was a reason Cronin was as happy as he was post lottery even tho they missed on Wemby. They were in a can’t lose situation. The pick will be valuable enough to finally do what Olshey never could, or they keep the pick and end up with a near guaranteed star. This feels like an Oden/Durant style draft, but with 3 can’t miss prospects vs 2. Injuries aside, that 06 draft was 2 can’t miss prospects talent wise. This is that style of draft. It would be 2 can’t miss any other year, just so happens to be a year with a uber-unique talent at top to make it 3.

For the Blazers and having Dame, they get to shop a super valuable asset that will have teams willing to give up players that most other drafts wouldn’t have. They also can be picky and keep the pick if there’s nothing they like and still be set for the future. It’s a win-win situation for Cronin and Portland. Even if they keep the pick and have to trade Dame, they have that franchise building piece in place post-trade.

As I’ve been saying, the only way I think the Blazers really lose is if they trade down or trade it for “All Star level” player the likes of CJ. Like an OG or Beal.

[DusterBuster]

Maybe more that haven't made their intentions as clear.

I think this is really really a good point. No one would have thought Zion would be available. We’re now hearing more about Toronto willing to reboot with the first actual reports of Siakam being potentially available. I think other situations could pop up as well. Even with Jaylen Brown… all reports now are that they want to focus on extending him… but is that true?

[Sinobas]

I wouldn't trade #3 for Zion. But something like Simons/#23....would be tempting to roll the dice. He's a legit star when he plays.

[Wizenheimer]

Maybe more that haven't made their intentions as clear.

I think this is really really a good point. No one would have thought Zion would be available. We’re now hearing more about Toronto willing to reboot with the first actual reports of Siakam being potentially available. I think other situations could pop up as well. Even with Jaylen Brown… all reports now are that they want to focus on extending him… but is that true?

we don't know much but we can surmise a few things

* the history is pretty solid that after the lottery dust settles and teams really start focusing on top prospects, the value of top picks increases. That's even more true as teams digest the NBA finals and realize how far away they truly are from contention, and what they need

* Portland has more options than people were crediting weeks ago, and those options are increasing. I mean, Zion and Ingram have suddenly entered the auction zone. I think Portland has more leverage than people were crediting as well. Of course, they'd have even more if they had the 2nd pick...damn Hornets!

* All the chatter about Dame has been idiotic. He's not as intent on forcing the Blazers hand as people have been claiming and while he may be closer to leaving than he has ever been, he's still a long ways from asking out, and may very well never do so, no matter what Portland does. And a couple of posters here will hate that