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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1661 » by 89Magicfan » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:54 pm

cedric76 wrote:Pels willing to trade Zion to get scoot



If I’m a team like Portland or Hornets I don’t make that trade.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1662 » by Rick Rolled » Wed Jun 14, 2023 4:56 pm

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Post#1663 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:26 pm

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So maybe looking to get into top 15?

Who wants Jonathan Kuminga for a player in this draft?

Can someone help me out? Or is this just another way of saying "We are getting rid of Poole".
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1664 » by JoshuaPotter » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:27 pm

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cedric76 wrote:Pels willing to trade Zion to get scoot



If I’m a team like Portland or Hornets I don’t make that trade.


Isn't Zion considered another generational player? Or just too injured too often?
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1665 » by 89Magicfan » Wed Jun 14, 2023 5:47 pm

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cedric76 wrote:Pels willing to trade Zion to get scoot



If I’m a team like Portland or Hornets I don’t make that trade.


Isn't Zion considered another generational player? Or just too injured too often?



He is when healthy. I just wouldn’t give up a younger possible generational talent in Scoot for one who can’t stay healthy.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1666 » by pepe1991 » Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:42 pm

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JoshuaPotter wrote:
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If I’m a team like Portland or Hornets I don’t make that trade.


Isn't Zion considered another generational player? Or just too injured too often?



He is when healthy. I just wouldn’t give up a younger possible generational talent in Scoot for one who can’t stay healthy.


I would. if i can hire doctors to exam him and have private conversation with Zion.

Zion is only player in nba history to average 23 ppg over first 50 career games on 60% FG.

But is he really all that locked to be best player he can be? Or he is just yet another Morant/ Paul George and is too busy creaming strippers? One thing international players have over US current players - they know how to control their snakes, or at least know how to keep their anaconda's away from media frenzy.
Oh and don't like/use/ have boner for guns.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1668 » by RookieStar » Wed Jun 14, 2023 9:14 pm

Zion? The strip clubs better be rocking in the city... oh wait, he pays to have the pornstars to come to him... all good.
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Post#1669 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 5:28 am

RookieStar wrote:Zion? The strip clubs better be rocking in the city... oh wait, he pays to have the pornstars to come to him... all good.


Maybe strippers help him get in better shape and boost his cardio? :oops:
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1670 » by Rainwater » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:47 am

Scoot for Zion is one of the few trades that makes sense.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1671 » by drsd » Thu Jun 15, 2023 7:25 am

JoshuaPotter wrote:Who wants Jonathan Kuminga for a player in this draft?

Can someone help me out? Or is this just another way of saying "We are getting rid of Poole".


Dallas and OKC. Neither wants a rookie.
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Post#1672 » by MasterGMer » Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:38 pm

Zion is not motivated. If so, he'd already lost ton of weight. He is an injury prone even though he was the All Star Starter last season. But he is always injured. He could be the biggest bust
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1673 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:39 pm

drsd wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Who wants Jonathan Kuminga for a player in this draft?

Can someone help me out? Or is this just another way of saying "We are getting rid of Poole".


Dallas and OKC. Neither wants a rookie.


What is Kuminga ceiling in this case? 10th pick in a draft? Not sure if he is playing up to that value. Just my personal opinion up to this second.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1674 » by Black and Blue » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:04 pm

Unless the Blazers quietly want Scoot and all of these rumors are just to placate Dame, I really think that Portland listens if we offer 6,11, Carter for #3 and Nurkic. They are doing this weird thing where they are trying to appease Dame AND rebuild, and this gives them both a better current roster and more draft picks for their stealth rebuild.

This creates a hole in our starting center spot, but if Magic brass feel Scoot can be a generational talent it’s worth it.

Draft day can’t come soon enough. Usually these crazy trades don’t wind up happening but I’m hoping there is chaos this year.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1675 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:05 pm

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They'd have to package 19 + Kuminga for pick? Would Orlando move 11 for 19 + Kuminga and snag GG Jackson at 19.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1676 » by 89Magicfan » Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:20 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:
Isn't Zion considered another generational player? Or just too injured too often?



He is when healthy. I just wouldn’t give up a younger possible generational talent in Scoot for one who can’t stay healthy.


I would. if i can hire doctors to exam him and have private conversation with Zion.

Zion is only player in nba history to average 23 ppg over first 50 career games on 60% FG.

But is he really all that locked to be best player he can be? Or he is just yet another Morant/ Paul George and is too busy creaming strippers? One thing international players have over US current players - they know how to control their snakes, or at least know how to keep their anaconda's away from media frenzy.
Oh and don't like/use/ have boner for guns.


Dude could be the right up with there Giannis when it comes to face of the league. If that doesn’t motivate you from day 1, you got problems.

I wouldn’t trade Scoot for him. Dude is on path right now to be Shawn Kemp without the accolades.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1677 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:05 pm

89Magicfan wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:

He is when healthy. I just wouldn’t give up a younger possible generational talent in Scoot for one who can’t stay healthy.


I would. if i can hire doctors to exam him and have private conversation with Zion.

Zion is only player in nba history to average 23 ppg over first 50 career games on 60% FG.

But is he really all that locked to be best player he can be? Or he is just yet another Morant/ Paul George and is too busy creaming strippers? One thing international players have over US current players - they know how to control their snakes, or at least know how to keep their anaconda's away from media frenzy.
Oh and don't like/use/ have boner for guns.


Dude could be the right up with there Giannis when it comes to face of the league. If that doesn’t motivate you from day 1, you got problems.

I wouldn’t trade Scoot for him. Dude is on path right now to be Shawn Kemp without the accolades.



It's just mindset. Giannis exit interview where he ashamed of that reporter and Jokic interview before finals pretty much show difference in mindset than some of new kids have.

They understand that you have to set everything in life to become best version of yourself. That doesn't just include nutrition and practice, but also tune off all the distractions in personal lifes, including people , hobbies, offcourt activities that do you no good.
I think this is part where some of all time greats separate themselfs from guys like Harden, who's lifestyle cought up to him several years ago to point of no return.

Soccer as sport is even better example of it, in order to last long,you have to commit everything.

Zion is immature. Morant is immature. That's what happends when you are told you are already one of best and surround yourself with yes-men-bots who just reforge your ego trip instad of people with critical minds & people who actually want best from you.

I think Đoković said he hired Ivanisevic because he tells him what it is, not what he wants to hear. Those young players simply don't. They are sorrounded by people who look to get in their pockets and boost their social media by doing dumb stuff with them. Morant's "crew" is best example of it.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1678 » by Skybox » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:24 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
I would. if i can hire doctors to exam him and have private conversation with Zion.

Zion is only player in nba history to average 23 ppg over first 50 career games on 60% FG.

But is he really all that locked to be best player he can be? Or he is just yet another Morant/ Paul George and is too busy creaming strippers? One thing international players have over US current players - they know how to control their snakes, or at least know how to keep their anaconda's away from media frenzy.
Oh and don't like/use/ have boner for guns.


Dude could be the right up with there Giannis when it comes to face of the league. If that doesn’t motivate you from day 1, you got problems.

I wouldn’t trade Scoot for him. Dude is on path right now to be Shawn Kemp without the accolades.



It's just mindset. Giannis exit interview where he ashamed of that reporter and Jokic interview before finals pretty much show difference in mindset than some of new kids have.

They understand that you have to set everything in life to become best version of yourself. That doesn't just include nutrition and practice, but also tune off all the distractions in personal lifes, including people , hobbies, offcourt activities that do you no good.
I think this is part where some of all time greats separate themselfs from guys like Harden, who's lifestyle cought up to him several years ago to point of no return.

Soccer as sport is even better example of it, in order to last long,you have to commit everything.

Zion is immature. Morant is immature. That's what happends when you are told you are already one of best and surround yourself with yes-men-bots who just reforge your ego trip instad of people with critical minds & people who actually want best from you.

I think Đoković said he hired Ivanisevic because he tells him what it is, not what he wants to hear. Those young players simply don't. They are sorrounded by people who look to get in their pockets and boost their social media by doing dumb stuff with them. Morant's "crew" is best example of it.


On the "immature young stars" topic...I have to say that Paolo's extensive exposure at the Finals was VERY encouraging. His group interview with Crawford, Isiah Thomas (and someone else...) was great. His responses were very insightful, well-thought out and mature. You could see that Crawford, who watched him grow up in Seattle was especially serious and respectful in the way he talked to Paolo-like he knows this kid is special AND serious. Paolo wasn't especially joyful or witty, but his analysis of Jokic's game was dead-on..."he makes it easy" (he takes easy shots and creates easy shots for teammates). I really like the sound of that, considering his role on ORL as something of a ball handling, iso big. He was kind of dismissive of flashy stuff and recognized how Jokic just sees stuff developing and makes winning plays. I think we got the right guy.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1679 » by 89Magicfan » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:31 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
I would. if i can hire doctors to exam him and have private conversation with Zion.

Zion is only player in nba history to average 23 ppg over first 50 career games on 60% FG.

But is he really all that locked to be best player he can be? Or he is just yet another Morant/ Paul George and is too busy creaming strippers? One thing international players have over US current players - they know how to control their snakes, or at least know how to keep their anaconda's away from media frenzy.
Oh and don't like/use/ have boner for guns.


Dude could be the right up with there Giannis when it comes to face of the league. If that doesn’t motivate you from day 1, you got problems.

I wouldn’t trade Scoot for him. Dude is on path right now to be Shawn Kemp without the accolades.



It's just mindset. Giannis exit interview where he ashamed of that reporter and Jokic interview before finals pretty much show difference in mindset than some of new kids have.

They understand that you have to set everything in life to become best version of yourself. That doesn't just include nutrition and practice, but also tune off all the distractions in personal lifes, including people , hobbies, offcourt activities that do you no good.
I think this is part where some of all time greats separate themselfs from guys like Harden, who's lifestyle cought up to him several years ago to point of no return.

Soccer as sport is even better example of it, in order to last long,you have to commit everything.

Zion is immature. Morant is immature. That's what happends when you are told you are already one of best and surround yourself with yes-men-bots who just reforge your ego trip instad of people with critical minds & people who actually want best from you.

I think Đoković said he hired Ivanisevic because he tells him what it is, not what he wants to hear. Those young players simply don't. They are sorrounded by people who look to get in their pockets and boost their social media by doing dumb stuff with them. Morant's "crew" is best example of it.



Right but Zion’s issue is Zion. Ja is his crew. One can look at their environment. The other needs to look within.
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Re: Around The League 2022-2023 season 

Post#1680 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jun 15, 2023 2:41 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
89Magicfan wrote:
Dude could be the right up with there Giannis when it comes to face of the league. If that doesn’t motivate you from day 1, you got problems.

I wouldn’t trade Scoot for him. Dude is on path right now to be Shawn Kemp without the accolades.



It's just mindset. Giannis exit interview where he ashamed of that reporter and Jokic interview before finals pretty much show difference in mindset than some of new kids have.

They understand that you have to set everything in life to become best version of yourself. That doesn't just include nutrition and practice, but also tune off all the distractions in personal lifes, including people , hobbies, offcourt activities that do you no good.
I think this is part where some of all time greats separate themselfs from guys like Harden, who's lifestyle cought up to him several years ago to point of no return.

Soccer as sport is even better example of it, in order to last long,you have to commit everything.

Zion is immature. Morant is immature. That's what happends when you are told you are already one of best and surround yourself with yes-men-bots who just reforge your ego trip instad of people with critical minds & people who actually want best from you.

I think Đoković said he hired Ivanisevic because he tells him what it is, not what he wants to hear. Those young players simply don't. They are sorrounded by people who look to get in their pockets and boost their social media by doing dumb stuff with them. Morant's "crew" is best example of it.


On the "immature young stars" topic...I have to say that Paolo's extensive exposure at the Finals was VERY encouraging. His group interview with Crawford, Isiah Thomas (and someone else...) was great. His responses were very insightful, well-thought out and mature. You could see that Crawford, who watched him grow up in Seattle was especially serious and respectful in the way he talked to Paolo-like he knows this kid is special AND serious. Paolo wasn't especially joyful or witty, but his analysis of Jokic's game was dead-on..."he makes it easy" (he takes easy shots and creates easy shots for teammates). I really like the sound of that, considering his role on ORL as something of a ball handling, iso big. He was kind of dismissive of flashy stuff and recognized how Jokic just sees stuff developing and makes winning plays. I think we got the right guy.


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