Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

[DayofMourning]

That 11 FRP is too much. BKN can afford to add half of that and get Dame and trumps all offer. Excited for Jovic now.

Why would BKN want Lillard is my question. Are they going to be a Finals level team because of Dame? Dude aint 26 anymore.

Dame and Bridges could be interesting but would they win a finals? Nah

The Nets should probably try and trade Mikal tbh. That team aint doing ****. Recoup all those picks you shat out for the 3 knuckleheads and move on.

[twix2500]

I just don't get it -

How could be talking for Wizards for all this time and then not get it done?

1. If we didn't wantBeal, why bother

2. If we did want beal, why not offer them the same expirings the Suns offered, but with a slightly better sweetner (#18)

I just don't what this front office is doing

We need 18 for Dame if he becomes available. But tbh, we'd be competing with Brooklyn's picks...I don't like how that sounds.

Initial discuassion probably already happened, but was likely just a feeler for the Blazers. Blazers a smart organizations you will have a hard time swindling them like the Wiz.

[Flash4thewin]

We're not getting Lilard, forget that pipe. He won't ask out, and even he does - well get outbid. again.

Who else can we get for our picks combined with Herro/Duncan/Lowry/Dipo

Honestly - It's a bit sad.

Look at those names. those contracts.

We made our bed.

Beal was never a great option or contract or player, HE WAS JUST LESS AWEFUL THEN LOWRY DIPO DUNCAN POO POO PLATER

Not sure we can do anything meaningful this year.

At least i have Jovic and maybe #18 to get excited about

Lowry, Dipo, and Duncan will be long gone by the time Beal is due 57 million in '26-'27 lol

The worst part is we may just let them expire to not get close to the tax. Lowry and Dipo are gone off the books after this season. That means either we trade them for value or lose that ability. Everything you have seen points to one direction.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

We need every fan to email Scoot Henderson highlights to the blazers front office. This is the way.

Whys that? Id draft that dude so fast if I was PLand. Id trade the hell out of Dame too. You cant have one foot on both sides of the fence.

That's the point. There's been a lot of reports saying if Portland uses that 3rd pick Dame would ask out. He views it the same way. I think Portland is going to use that pick and now its up to see if Dame is bluffing.

[MorbidHEAT]

Brooklyn has 11 picks. They can go into almost any trade they want and have an advantage. We’ve been burned several times by praying for the unavailable star and missing out in the current option that would have really made a difference. This is no different. Dame will prob not be available. If he is, we probably won’t win. We will go into next season with like 12 undrafted players. Seen this movie before.

[DayofMourning]

That 11 FRP is too much. BKN can afford to add half of that and get Dame and trumps all offer. Excited for Jovic now.

Why would BKN want Lillard is my question. Are they going to be a Finals level team because of Dame? Dude aint 26 anymore.

Joe Tsai is a competitive SOB. Dame would bring tickets into BKN while also in the EAST.

If Dame wants to go there, he would not hesitate to get him.

I think itd be more flash than substance. Treadmill until Dames contract comes off the books.

[Timantha]

Hahaha you know it's bad when I went from posting Beal/Dame to Russ

[VaDe255]

This is very dissapointing. I don't even know what to say.
Suns being ridiculous and getting a player that will handcuff them of ever building a roster that can win a championship, they literally just built Brookling West but worse.
Heat being cheap and not getting a player that gives them a chance to win the championship, it's ubelievable that a team with no assets outbid them.

The problem with all of this. Heat can't get a player nearly as impactful as Beal would have been. It was exactly what they needed and a one time chance that won't come again.
There is no one on the market that they can realistically get with their assests. Dame is like a 0,01% chance or lower.

Shocking decision making from the Suns and the Heat.

[SoFlaKingReal]

Brooklyn has 11 picks. They can go into almost any trade they want and have an advantage. We’ve been burned several times by praying for the unavailable star and missing out in the current option that would have really made a difference. This is no different. Dame will prob not be available. If he is, we probably won’t win. We will go into next season with like 12 undrafted players. Seen this movie before.

Brooklyn has 11 picks, but how many of them will they be willing to trade for a 33 year old with that contract?

Heat can find a way to trade up to five firsts right?

[RexBoyWonder]

It will just feel like a complete EMBRASSING FALIURE to not make any meaningful moves after clearly seeing how useless half this roster is when it's the playoffs.

We can't even run it back, we can't affored gabe and Strus.

THis front office is really starting to look incompetent.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE REAL MOVES THIS OFFSEASON, OR JUST BLOW IT UP. NO WAY WE CAN "RUN IT BACK" WITH A LESSER ROSTER THEN WE HAD THIS YEAR..**** THAT

[Timantha]

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From Shams and the Athletic.. Beal chose them over us

[oreon]

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lol Add KD to the list

[BBallFreak]

So now our whole offseason revolves around the hope that Lillard who hasn't asked out despite all the rumors year after year after year, finally asks out and we somehow actually get him despite him not having a no trade clause. hahahahaha Damn these last few offseasons have been blue balls over and over.

No, our whole offseason revolves around augmenting the core with whomever becomes available. If you think Miami is only looking at Dame, think again.

Why should I think again when we just witnessed them look at Durant and miss out on literally everything else...

Because we now have actual assets and can trade them for better players than Beal. We did not miss out. I've never understood the fascination with Beal. I would have supported him, but it's such a bad move because of that contract, the limitations of the player, and the number of injuries he's accrued. I don't expect Phoenix to win anything...

[SoFlaKingReal]

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From Shams and the Athletic.. Beal chose them over us

BINGO

[DayofMourning]

We need every fan to email Scoot Henderson highlights to the blazers front office. This is the way.

Whys that? Id draft that dude so fast if I was PLand. Id trade the hell out of Dame too. You cant have one foot on both sides of the fence.

That's the point. There's been a lot of reports saying if Portland uses that 3rd pick Dame would ask out. He views it the same way. I think Portland is going to use that pick and now its up to see if Dame is bluffing.

I mean, thats what they should be doing. They neednt be convinced to do the right thing for long term success.

Lillard can go float a boat. Franchise made you filthy rich. Youve been compensated heavily. Dame should be looking at houses in Miami right now. Nothing available for the 3rd pick is winning you a chip.

[oreon]

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From Shams and the Athletic.. Beal chose them over us

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It's was obvious this was a Beal decision. Nothing Riles could do about this

[Spacely]

I really hope Jovic turns into a superstar

[heater4life]

After that last tweet. Beals a bithc. F’em!

[Vertical Limit]

Is it a bad offseason if we end up with Westbrook and Paul Millsap?

[AirP.]

I think we need to look at this from a relative perspective and that things are fluid. Herro at the time he signed his contract it was at par with market value or a slight over pay. Then next season Herro plays ok but was hurt in the playoffs. The real killer is new CBA which now makes his slightly over paid contract at the time more on the negative side. This is mainly because Herro was hurt in the playoffs. Say Herro had a break out playoffs, his contract would be seen in a different light and more of a positive. Again all of this is fluid. Right now Herro is at his lowest. The new CBA will have unintended consequences for players like Grant this offseason. Before he would get a 30+ contract, now it seems highly unlikely.

No... he's nowhere near worth his new contract unless you only care about PPG. For such a good 3pt shooter he's no very efficient even though he has the green light. It's been reported that Spoelstra has to keep talking about his shot selections yet he doesn't seem to care what he's told, this is the type of offensive player that can make you lose playoff games... oh, and toss in he's probably the worst defensive player on the court when Trae Young isn't on the court he's just a bad player. Find a trade to a team that the FO doesn't care about championship aspirations like Minnesota, Charolotte or even Chicago.

Now if Herro limited his game, became a catch and shoot SG and gave good effort on the defensive end, I he could be a high level SG, but he's not going to limit his game like that which is a pity, because pressure doesn't really bother him but neither does Spoelstra talking to him about his bad shot selection.

Isn't it weird Miami has had great success in the playoffs the last 2 years without Herro? Is it also weird they underachieved greatly when he became a starter and Miami had 3 20 ppg guys and the same bench that did pretty well in the playoffs? There's only one common trait in all 3 of those situations, a ton of Herro.

Great success, hot shooting from limited players that evaporated and loss 7 of last 9 games. Why I had no interest in Herro coming back into that **** show. Lord knows you would have found a way to blame him for the Finals loss.

Bro you have no idea what a good offensive player is so just stop it. Herro is taking 8 3s a game, more than Beal has taken every year except the 1 he was jacking up 22 shots a game. How many do you think he should take in your world? You kept harping on numbers without context like thinking PJ Tucker was a good offensive player because of TS%. If the refs called the obvious fouls against the kid the "shot selection" wouldn't be an issue.

And his contract is worth every dollar, he's paid like his peers are. Beal got 50 friggin million and you're talking about Herro's 27?

Stick your cherry picked defensive analysis and leave the offense talk to other people

I think TS% and a calculated ORTG gives you a good idea, the best offensive players are great in those stats but since Herro is on your team he's different!