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Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back

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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#801 » by oreon » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:01 pm

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From Shams and the Athletic.. Beal chose them over us :banghead:


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It's was obvious this was a Beal decision. Nothing Riles could do about this


There is possibly one thing, get the trade over as soon as possible before Phoenix decided to jump in. Other then that probably nothing he could do.


This was in the works for a while. The son didn't just wake up Sat and say hey dad would Beal like to come to Suns. There was for sure back door collusion way before Beal asked out. And there's a chance Miami wasn't really in this at all. Beal could have used Miami as a cover for the collusion.
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

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Post#803 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:01 pm

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Shams > Barry

Beal chose PHX over Miami.

What garbage. Time to move on.

Nah I believe Barry.
Beal choosing PHX would be a great Spin for out Front Office who Barry is a mouth piece for.

Heat stood their ground Wash liked PHX offer better. It is what it is
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#804 » by oreon » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:02 pm

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A little too much for my tastes. But If Heat were to do it, I wouldn't complain
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Post#805 » by AirP. » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:02 pm

Heat3 wrote:Since when is Beal a winner? Come on. Our team is in 2 of the last four Finals and one shot away from three. That’s all I need to know.

I'd say getting the maximum amount of money (he could have only get the supermax last year only in Washington and a NTC) he could get and picking the team he goes to after getting a supermax makes him a winner in life and a great chance to still win while just being 30 years old next season.
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Post#806 » by KingDavid » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:02 pm

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Would rather give them Highsmith in place of jovic.
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Post#808 » by Slot Machine » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:03 pm

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Man, I cannot listen to this clueless (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for another offseason.
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I've never wanted to punch someone in the face so badly. Really hoping to run into him at a game one day. I won't hesitate.
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Post#809 » by dshearn » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:03 pm

twix2500 wrote:Dame Lillard interest in the Heat is gonna hold the Heat hostage in this draft. Which is gonna annoy me because the Heat will not make moves because of Lillard.




this episode must be a re-run....I seem to remember this story....
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#810 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:03 pm

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From Shams and the Athletic.. Beal chose them over us :banghead:


Beal asked will you pay the tax to win. One owner said yes, the other well we know. That will sway a player. If one doesnt put there money where their mouth is, it tells you all you need to know.


Since when is Beal a winner? Come on. Our team is in 2 of the last four Finals and one shot away from three. That’s all I need to know.


Yes we are the modern day Buffalo Bills.... some people think that team was a success, others think of them as the ultimate failures for not wining a ring. Three Super Bowls, three Super Bowl losses. To be fair we only have two Finals losses post the big three era.
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Post#811 » by oreon » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:03 pm

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Shams > Barry

Beal chose PHX over Miami.

What garbage. Time to move on.

Nah I believe Barry.
Beal choosing PHX would be a great Spin for out Front Office who Barry is a mouth piece for.

Heat stood their ground Wash liked PHX offer better. It is what it is


liked what better ? They got nothing. CP3 contract had to be 25 mil guaranteed so they not even getting back cap relief. Heat just needed to include one pick to beat any Suns offer.
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Post#812 » by AirP. » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 pm

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Would rather give them Highsmith in place of Jovic.

You have to give them what they ask for, Miami's first option picked a different team.
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Post#813 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 pm

Hear me out for a sec.

Am i really the only one that's kinda sick of all these Divas?

KD, Beal, Harden, Kyrie..the list goes on.

Self entitled, uncompetitive, unbearable DIVAS that happen to be great at basketball. But lack any resembles of a backbone or character or balls.

Sure I'd love to have their BB skills on my team, but I swear - it will be so hard to root for any of them if we get any of them someday. Hell, it's getting hard to stand 80% of these "stars".

I don't know what to tell you. This current NBA culture is disgusting to me.

I'm just sick of "Wanting" these great players that are really so unlikeable as people.
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0 - Life is BEALtiful 

Post#814 » by BBallFreak » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 pm

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Why should I think again when we just witnessed them look at Durant and miss out on literally everything else...

Because we now have actual assets and can trade them for better players than Beal. We did not miss out. I've never understood the fascination with Beal. I would have supported him, but it's such a bad move because of that contract, the limitations of the player, and the number of injuries he's accrued. I don't expect Phoenix to win anything...


What assets exactly do we have?
Expiring contracts?
FRPs that no one wants, because Heat don't tank and they are like #20+ picks?
Tyler Herro on a fair or even bad contract?

None of this gets anything, I'm shocked they decided to low ball and got outbid by a couple 2nd rounders and will just run it back with the possible Butler/Bam, who desperately needed help. Poor Jimmy, probably his last year and FO failed him again.

First, we didn't lowball them. We had more to offer than Phoenix, but BEAL chose Phoenix. His agent clearly talked him into it.

Second, our assets may not be high end assets, but that's what happens when you're always winning. That doesn't mean our assets are worthless. It takes one player to force his way to Miami. Just one. Chill a bit, okay?
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Post#815 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:04 pm

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Now all we need is the world to end.
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Post#816 » by AirP. » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:05 pm

oreon wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
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Shams > Barry

Beal chose PHX over Miami.

What garbage. Time to move on.

Nah I believe Barry.
Beal choosing PHX would be a great Spin for out Front Office who Barry is a mouth piece for.

Heat stood their ground Wash liked PHX offer better. It is what it is


liked what better ? They got nothing. CP3 contract had to be 25 mil guaranteed so they not even getting back cap relief. Heat just needed to include one pick to beat any Suns offer.

Unless... Miami was standing firm that they had to take Robinson back. I don't know if that happened but that would be a serious problem for a team wanting to rebuild. Swapping out Robinson into say Oladipo's expiring and younger player like Jovic could have been what would stop that type of trade and Washington taking the Sun's offer.
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#817 » by Cmon_Son-_- » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:06 pm

oreon wrote:
Cmon_Son-_- wrote:
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Shams > Barry

Beal chose PHX over Miami.

What garbage. Time to move on.

Nah I believe Barry.
Beal choosing PHX would be a great Spin for out Front Office who Barry is a mouth piece for.

Heat stood their ground Wash liked PHX offer better. It is what it is


liked what better ? They got nothing. CP3 contract had to be 25 mil guaranteed so they not even getting back cap relief. Heat just needed to include one pick to beat any Suns offer.

That should tell you what type of offer we had on the table.
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#818 » by MorbidHEAT » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:06 pm

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Man, I cannot listen to this clueless (Please Use More Appropriate Word) for another offseason.


If Barry, who is the Heat’s mouthpiece, is saying something that makes the Heat look bad, I am inclined to believe it.
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Post#819 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:07 pm

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Makes no sense.

We didn't offer #18?

Why? are we getting someone better then Beal?

Makes no sense
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Re: Miami Heat Off-Season 2.0- The Empire runs it back 

Post#820 » by VaDe255 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:07 pm

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Now Duncan is a trade asset? I'm sorry, this is hilarious.
Let's say Blazers decide to draft at #3.
Dame is unhappy, what is he gonna do? Ask out? Let's say he does that.
Blazers will say, fine we'll send you somewhere you want to go if the offer is reasonable.
Dame continues to play for the Blazers, 1 year passes and nothing happens, because he is under contract for 4 years and the Blazers don't have to do anything until the right offer comes along.

Meanwhile the Heat are running it back with the same roster and this time they fail in the PLAYIN, LOL

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