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Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season)

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1821 » by steefP2 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:43 am

Fencer reregistered wrote:Oooh -- I have the name for the next thread!!

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1822 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:44 am

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1823 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:04 am

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Triple7 wrote:We all know playing smart, brown and Rob all the same time won’t work. That’s an awful shooting starting lineup. Will not work with the 3 ball Joe is preaching. Still no post up scoring, no mid range. Pass!

White probably runs with Rob and Smart with Horford. You can flex it as needed. DFS/Mills are good 3 point shooters, Boucher can even hit the occasional one, so they fit into Joe's schemes. They also all provide mid-range scoring, but true still no post-scoring.

Feel free to suggest something that works better.

DFS would be like 9th best three point shooter on the team, plus he can’t score at all anyway else.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1824 » by Asian Celtic » Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:41 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:BOS gets Wendell Carter, Jr.
ORL gets Ayton
PHO gets Muscala, Brogdon, Suggs

It's a win for everybody imo. Suns get the coolest dude in the deal in Muscle Mike.


If only ORL was dumb to trade wcj + suggs for ayton. Ayton is even questionable as an upgrade over wcj rn.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1825 » by shackles10 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:06 am

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1827 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:51 am

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1828 » by cl2117 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:12 pm

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cl2117 wrote:
Triple7 wrote:We all know playing smart, brown and Rob all the same time won’t work. That’s an awful shooting starting lineup. Will not work with the 3 ball Joe is preaching. Still no post up scoring, no mid range. Pass!

White probably runs with Rob and Smart with Horford. You can flex it as needed. DFS/Mills are good 3 point shooters, Boucher can even hit the occasional one, so they fit into Joe's schemes. They also all provide mid-range scoring, but true still no post-scoring.

Feel free to suggest something that works better.

DFS would be like 9th best three point shooter on the team, plus he can’t score at all anyway else.

In fairness we've got an unusually good three point shooting roster and take a metric ton of them so a) it's unsurprising that he's that far down the list and b) still good that he can make his fair share (league average).

True he can't score any way else, but he's a good defender, if he could score regularly inside the arc he'd be a $25m player but he can't so he only costs $13m. Not sure you'll be able to swap Brogdon for a better PF given his injury history/ age/ cost but I'm 100% open to it.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1829 » by Fierce1 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:21 pm

I'm really curious if the Spurs would turn down a Tatum for Wemby trade.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1830 » by Scarletfire81 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:29 pm

Fierce1 wrote:I'm really curious if the Spurs would turn down a Tatum for Wemby trade.



Celtics wouldn’t do it, zero chance. Tatum is a sure thing & is durable. Wemby will probably be a great player but who knows?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1831 » by 165bows » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:29 pm

cl2117 wrote:
165bows wrote:
cl2117 wrote:White probably runs with Rob and Smart with Horford. You can flex it as needed. DFS/Mills are good 3 point shooters, Boucher can even hit the occasional one, so they fit into Joe's schemes. They also all provide mid-range scoring, but true still no post-scoring.

Feel free to suggest something that works better.

DFS would be like 9th best three point shooter on the team, plus he can’t score at all anyway else.

In fairness we've got an unusually good three point shooting roster and take a metric ton of them so a) it's unsurprising that he's that far down the list and b) still good that he can make his fair share (league average).

True he can't score any way else, but he's a good defender, if he could score regularly inside the arc he'd be a $25m player but he can't so he only costs $13m. Not sure you'll be able to swap Brogdon for a better PF given his injury history/ age/ cost but I'm 100% open to it.

Sure they could they could just keep Grant Williams who's the exact same guy and is only really helpful when he is hitting a huge volume of threes, which doesn't happen a ton (but still a lot more frequently than Smith).
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1832 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:49 pm

Triple7 wrote:
cl2117 wrote:More realistic deals:

BOS in: DFS, Mills
BOS out: Brogdon

BKN in: #17 Beasley
BKN out: DFS, Mills

LAL in: Brogdon
LAL out: #17, Beasley

DFS gives you another guy who can play defense in the frontcourt. Mills backfills our PG as a sniper.

Brooklyn sell high on DFS and get #17, likely with the hope of moving up using one or both of their picks in the 20s. The Lakers upgrade from Beasley using #17.

Follow up:

BOS: Boucher

TOR: Pritchard, Gallo

C's follow up to get another big as depth behind Rob/Horford. Boucher is still a small-ball 5, but he can play next to Rob and he can fill the C position in a pinch.

Toronto has a gaping hole at PG and a plethora of PF's so they take a chance on PP and give him the kind of minutes he's looking for while also taking a flyer on Gallo (likely to be flipped at deadline if he has anything left in the tank that can net them a 2nd).

Smart/ Mills/ Davison
Brown/ White
Tatum/ Hauser
DFS/ Grant/ Boucher
Rob/ Horford/ Muscala

Stick at #35 and take best wing or big available. Buy back into the 2nd round for a euro stash ideally or just the 15th man on the bench (high upside guys like Vukcevic/Gueye).


We all know playing smart, brown and Rob all the same time won’t work. That’s an awful shooting starting lineup. Will not work with the 3 ball Joe is preaching. Still no post up scoring, no mid range. Pass!

Huh? The best performing starting lineup we've had in the past decade had Smart, Brown and Rob in it. The 3 of them started together all season long in 21-22, resulting in our only trip to the NBA finals since Pierce/KG.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1833 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:53 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Brogdon & Hauser to the Knicks.
Fournier & Toppin to Boston.

Or some such iteration of Brogdon & for Fournier & Toppin.
A variation of an earlier B Robb trade.

I don't want that Fournier contract.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1834 » by fishdoctor » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:58 pm

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Yes I would want him and Jericho Sims from the Knicks. Both of them need playing time. I also want Toppin's brother, if he goes undrafted.


YES! I would love to see Toppin in green. I think he'd be a nice fir for the C's, particularly in a 6th man role. What would NY be looking for in a trade?
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1835 » by Curmudgeon » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Hal14 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Brogdon & Hauser to the Knicks.
Fournier & Toppin to Boston.

Or some such iteration of Brogdon & for Fournier & Toppin.
A variation of an earlier B Robb trade.

I don't want that Fournier contract.


Or Toppin. There is a reason why he's always in Thibs' doghouse.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1836 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:59 pm

Hal14 wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Brogdon & Hauser to the Knicks.
Fournier & Toppin to Boston.

Or some such iteration of Brogdon & for Fournier & Toppin.
A variation of an earlier B Robb trade.

I don't want that Fournier contract.


If you want Toppin, you have to take Fournier, those are the rules...
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1837 » by Hal14 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:01 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:If Bam is traded to Portland, who trades for Jimmy?

Or do they keep him to mentor Scoot?

Bam ain't getting traded to Portland. I'd be shocked if that happens.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1838 » by Triple7 » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:04 pm

cl2117 wrote:
165bows wrote:
cl2117 wrote:White probably runs with Rob and Smart with Horford. You can flex it as needed. DFS/Mills are good 3 point shooters, Boucher can even hit the occasional one, so they fit into Joe's schemes. They also all provide mid-range scoring, but true still no post-scoring.

Feel free to suggest something that works better.

DFS would be like 9th best three point shooter on the team, plus he can’t score at all anyway else.

In fairness we've got an unusually good three point shooting roster and take a metric ton of them so a) it's unsurprising that he's that far down the list and b) still good that he can make his fair share (league average).

True he can't score any way else, but he's a good defender, if he could score regularly inside the arc he'd be a $25m player but he can't so he only costs $13m. Not sure you'll be able to swap Brogdon for a better PF given his injury history/ age/ cost but I'm 100% open to it.


If the best we can do is get DFS and Mills, then that’s kinda depressing. Both role players that’s not starting caliber players on a contender. Plus we already have a good defensive player that’s not good in scoring in Smart. Why add to that? Plus Rob can’t score on his own. That’s 3 guys offensively handicapped on the starting lineup.
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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

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Re: Trade Thread Dread, pt 3, 2023-24 - (Off-season) 

Post#1840 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:14 pm

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