TRAYCE JACKSON-DAVIS (Indiana)

SNPA · Post #41 » by **SNPA** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:55 am

azcatz11 wrote:
916fan wrote:
SNPA wrote:I went for a draft dive. This is the guy if Sac picks 24.

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Shot blocking, hyper athletic, rim rolling/running, cutting, good passing, long PF that plays hard.

He does not stretch horizontally but he does stretch vertically. His passing combined with rim protection make him unique…a little Draymond to his game. He adds the athleticism the Kings need between Sabonis and Murray and he can play small ball 5.

He is the right age for Monte too. I think the Kings will have enough shooting to support him (Murray/Huerter/Monk/Lyles/Sasha).

That'd be an awful pick. He can't play next to Sabonis. Are you really content drafting a backup C who can't shoot at #24 when there's other players who are more talented and fit the team better?

He's also old. Turning 24 halfway thru his rookie year. I wouldn't touch him in the first

McNair seems to like older prospects. TJD did come to Sac too.

Getting any rotational player at 24 is a win. TJD fits Mike Brown’s offense as a backup, I also can see him playing some alongside Sabonis.

azcatz11 · Post #42 » by **azcatz11** » Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:59 am

SNPA wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
916fan wrote:That'd be an awful pick. He can't play next to Sabonis. Are you really content drafting a backup C who can't shoot at #24 when there's other players who are more talented and fit the team better?

He's also old. Turning 24 halfway thru his rookie year. I wouldn't touch him in the first

McNair seems to like older prospects. TJD did come to Sac too.

Getting any rotational player at 24 is a win. TJD fits Mike Brown’s offense as a backup, I also can see him playing some alongside Sabonis.

I think JHS would be a great fit for the kings playing next to fox. I’d like to see that happen. Maybe you guys can trade up for him

Darklight · Post #43 » by **Darklight** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:37 pm

Hope we draft this kid. Lob threat, can switch, shot blocker and can playmake he is perfect for the nuggets and to learn behind Joker.
He is probably going early second, but I would take him at 29 just to be safe, wouldn't even care how the rest of the draft goes for us.. Think he will be the steal of the draft atleast relative to his draft spot reminds me a bit of Adebayo.

Upperclass · Post #44 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:59 am

Surprised Warriors didnt trade up and grab him.. Seems like their kind of big in the James Michael McAdoo role..

SNPA · Post #45 » by **SNPA** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:27 am

Upperclass wrote:Surprised Warriors didnt trade up and grab him.. Seems like their kind of big in the James Michael McAdoo role..

He reportedly is going to GS.

Why Sac didn’t draft him at 54 I can not explain.

bucknut · Post #46 » by **bucknut** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:34 am

SNPA wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Surprised Warriors didnt trade up and grab him.. Seems like their kind of big in the James Michael McAdoo role..

He reportedly is going to GS.

Why Sac didn’t draft him at 54 I can not explain.

He's very comparable game to the young sabonis. Lefties mid and in game

EMG518 · Post #47 » by **EMG518** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:36 am

SNPA wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Surprised Warriors didnt trade up and grab him.. Seems like their kind of big in the James Michael McAdoo role..

He reportedly is going to GS.

Why Sac didn’t draft him at 54 I can not explain.

Because he is a borderline draftable player. I personally don't see him in the league.

EMG518 · Post #48 » by **EMG518** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:40 am

Hal14 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I disagree. He improved in 3 areas this season:

-defense/rim protection
-Handle, ability to grab and go after getting a rebound, lead the break, push it up the floor himself and even face up from the mid post area and attack off the bounce
-Passing and being able to be a high post offensive hub, hitting cutters, running DHO's and then going in for lobs and offensive boards

Plus he was already a really strong finisher around the basket. He's bouncy, athletic, high motor. Good size for a small ball 5 (which we're seeing more and more of as teams play centers are a smaller but quicker and more skilled rather than taller guys who are too slow)

Some people are saying he's a 1st rounder. I don't have him that high, but I think he is a solid bet somewhere in the 2nd round.

He literally does nothing well in my eyes. He has heavy feet and doesn't defend well, he has no touch around the basket and can't shoot.

I don't know what you would have him do on the court.

He does everything well except shoot from the perimeter. It doesn't sound like you've watched him play this season so not going to bother engaging further on this.

Drafted 57th, apparently you were the only one to watch Indiana play this year.

Hal14 · Post #49 » by **Hal14** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:11 am

EMG518 wrote:
Hal14 wrote:
EMG518 wrote:
He literally does nothing well in my eyes. He has heavy feet and doesn't defend well, he has no touch around the basket and can't shoot.

I don't know what you would have him do on the court.

He does everything well except shoot from the perimeter. It doesn't sound like you've watched him play this season so not going to bother engaging further on this.

Drafted 57th, apparently you were the only one to watch Indiana play this year.

What a weird comment. I still think TJD is a 1st round talent. This is just a really deep/talented draft. And maybe he fell further in the draft that he should have?

At least he got drafted! VanVleet, Ben Wallace, Max Strus, Caleb Martin, Brad Miller, Austin Reaves, Duncan Robinson, etc. all went undrafted.

Hal14 · Post #50 » by **Hal14** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:22 am

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EvanZ · Post #51 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:49 pm

I want to call TJD a steal but realistically when a guy drops into the 50s it's a bad sign. It also turns out Mike Dunleavy's brother is on TJD's agency team, so hard to say if this wasn't just a favor to him. Clearly if there's any team that makes sense for TJD, it's the Warriors. Never say never and all that. But these second round picks that people always hype up going to the Warriors (McCaw, Jordan Bell, Ryan Rollins, etc) have not worked out well. Not since Draymond anyway.

pcbothwel · Post #52 » by **pcbothwel** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:22 pm

I foresee a Jordan Bell situation. His energy, physicality, and athleticism will make him productive early and look like a steal. But will probably hit a ceiling quick as bench big. Great value at 57.

BlazersBroncos · Post #53 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:37 pm

pcbothwel wrote:I foresee a Jordan Bell situation. His energy, physicality, and athleticism will make him productive early and look like a steal. But will probably hit a ceiling quick as bench big. Great value at 57.

He plays within himself and with much less recklessness than Bell IMO. I can see him sticking in a similar role, whereas Bell flashed as a rookie but never developed his decision making or understood his limitations on the floor.

EvanZ · Post #54 » by **EvanZ** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:44 pm

Brandon Clarke is another comp but a smaller more athletic version.

SNPA · Post #55 » by **SNPA** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:47 pm

EMG518 wrote:
SNPA wrote:
Upperclass wrote:Surprised Warriors didnt trade up and grab him.. Seems like their kind of big in the James Michael McAdoo role..

He reportedly is going to GS.

Why Sac didn’t draft him at 54 I can not explain.

Because he is a borderline draftable player. I personally don't see him in the league.

It’s a Paul Reed situation IMO.

clyde21 · Post #56 » by **clyde21** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:56 pm

EvanZ wrote:I want to call TJD a steal but realistically when a guy drops into the 50s it's a bad sign. It also turns out Mike Dunleavy's brother is on TJD's agency team, so hard to say if this wasn't just a favor to him. Clearly if there's any team that makes sense for TJD, it's the Warriors. Never say never and all that. But these second round picks that people always hype up going to the Warriors (McCaw, Jordan Bell, Ryan Rollins, etc) have not worked out well. Not since Draymond anyway.

who hyped McCaw/Rollins?

Big J · Post #57 » by **Big J** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:00 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
pcbothwel wrote:I foresee a Jordan Bell situation. His energy, physicality, and athleticism will make him productive early and look like a steal. But will probably hit a ceiling quick as bench big. Great value at 57.

He plays within himself and with much less recklessness than Bell IMO. I can see him sticking in a similar role, whereas Bell flashed as a rookie but never developed his decision making or understood his limitations on the floor.

Jordan Bell was the next Draymond.

babyjax13 · Post #58 » by **babyjax13** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:01 pm

clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I want to call TJD a steal but realistically when a guy drops into the 50s it's a bad sign. It also turns out Mike Dunleavy's brother is on TJD's agency team, so hard to say if this wasn't just a favor to him. Clearly if there's any team that makes sense for TJD, it's the Warriors. Never say never and all that. But these second round picks that people always hype up going to the Warriors (McCaw, Jordan Bell, Ryan Rollins, etc) have not worked out well. Not since Draymond anyway.

who hyped McCaw/Rollins?

They had more attention in the second round than a lot of other guys did. Plus, any time the Warriors draft someone there is an expectation that they are "smarter" than other teams, or at least there was for a while b/c of how well they did with their core.

Notanoob · Post #59 » by **Notanoob** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:07 pm

I think he has a real chance to stick in the league. His defense was pretty good, he's strong and athletic enough. Showed some real savvy passing the ball, you know he's smart. Yeah he's old, a bit small for a true big and he can't shoot at all but passing/rebounding/defending is a solid skill set to work with.

Big J · Post #60 » by **Big J** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:37 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
EvanZ wrote:I want to call TJD a steal but realistically when a guy drops into the 50s it's a bad sign. It also turns out Mike Dunleavy's brother is on TJD's agency team, so hard to say if this wasn't just a favor to him. Clearly if there's any team that makes sense for TJD, it's the Warriors. Never say never and all that. But these second round picks that people always hype up going to the Warriors (McCaw, Jordan Bell, Ryan Rollins, etc) have not worked out well. Not since Draymond anyway.

who hyped McCaw/Rollins?

They had more attention in the second round than a lot of other guys did. Plus, any time the Warriors draft someone there is an expectation that they are "smarter" than other teams, or at least there was for a while b/c of how well they did with their core.

They were smarter than everyone else when Jerry West was running the show. Unfortunately Bob Myers was lightyears behind the rest of the league with his picks.