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Rate the Dick Pick

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How do you feel about the Raps taking Gradey Dick #13

Love it
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35%
Like it
120
45%
So so
36
13%
Don't like it
10
4%
Hate it
8
3%
 
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#101 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:00 pm

I like it. He fits a huge need, and he was the BPA.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#102 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:02 pm

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Okay. So we know who you would have traded up to get.

Who would you have drafted at 13 for the Raptors?

I assumed Coulibaly would be there. If Fred leaves, you take a guard, that was my position. Again, I like Dick as a player, its not that I think he's trash or somebody was way better at that spot.


still didn't answer the question.

name the available player you would've taken at 13.

I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#103 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:02 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I assumed Coulibaly would be there. If Fred leaves, you take a guard, that was my position. Again, I like Dick as a player, its not that I think he's trash or somebody was way better at that spot.


still didn't answer the question.

name the available player you would've taken at 13.

I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.
Still can't do it.

Bilal wasn't available
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#104 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:03 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I assumed Coulibaly would be there. If Fred leaves, you take a guard, that was my position. Again, I like Dick as a player, its not that I think he's trash or somebody was way better at that spot.


still didn't answer the question.

name the available player you would've taken at 13.

I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.


Which guard would you have taken at 13, last night, when the 13th pick was on the clock, was the question.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#105 » by hyper316 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:04 pm

Wanted Cason, got sniped by OKC

Cool with Dick
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#106 » by Duffman100 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:05 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
still didn't answer the question.

name the available player you would've taken at 13.

I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.
Still can't do it.

Bilal wasn't available


It's so he can take 14-30, choose the single best player and the drone on about how we made a massive mistake.

Wait for 3 months and we'll all be hearing about it.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#107 » by Duffman100 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:06 pm

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PhilBlackson wrote:Majority of this board will talk themselves into ANYTHING the FO does so not surprised by the ratings.

I'm actually NOT one of the posters that selected "Hated It" -- but I did select I Don't Like It.

Doesn't mean I think Dick is trash and some scrub. His "value" is obvious, he's a shooter/floor spacer. He's basically a 6'8 Duncan Robinson, maybe as he adds more ballhandling that will be Huerter and that's not hate, those guys are "valuable" players to their teams because yes it's just a fact now that everyone needs shooting...and that's what this FO did, drafted for "need" which is more my gripe with the pick - a true not hating the playa lol but the game/FO. They made that decision and I just don't like their vision (or lack thereof) for the team as it seems they're constructed much of it on public opinion, not any real strategy of their own and they're missing golden opportunities for the sake of playing it safe and I can't get with that.

The hoard of apologists will blab about yesteryear and the same slow build up expecting lightening to strike twice because they seen the world's biggest fluke of a trade in Kawhi, now blindly believe there's some grand plan although literally the FO is changing their answers of what they're after by the press conference (Vision 6'9 abandoned, immediately brought in two 7 footers the very next year, we're drafting a Raptors type guy that defend, oh no ooops, we got some shooting bc we don't wanna admit OKC pulled the trigger on a trade we wouldn't do for the actual player we wanted: Cason Wallace). They're just floating whereever the wind takes them and basically now are beholden to mid-players like Fred & Pascal who will produce mid results for the foreseeable future.

What they're doing is literally a giant waste of time, so I won't be tuning much until there's a MAJOR change (period) whether that's the players or the FO. The outcome is just way too predictable over the next 3-4 years IF they do just "run it back" with Gradey & some other minor pieces around the fringes as is very likely the case now -- it will be good REGULAR season record, quick Playoff elimination (rd 1 or 2 - they won't sniff a Conference Finals). They just wanna play it safe and make sure they even make it that far because of course MLSE wants that $, and instead of planning for the future with some short term pain to take more of a gamble on guys like Whitmore or Bufkin to become the 2nd option scorer that is ACTUALLY needed long term (or flipping either of OG or Pascal for players with higher potentials than their own) they continue to squander opportunity for real chance at growth & sacrifice it (yet again) for short term gain just to stay in their comfort zone. I don't play that way in my own life, so it's just a matter of principles that I disagree on so that's why I "don't like it" and stand by it even if works out "ok", I don't want just "ok" in anything lol but ya'll have fun with that.


You said all of this before. And we won a title. You’ll say it all again. Rinse and repeat.


:lol: thanks for proving my point...this is how jaded this board is.

They really believe lightening will strike twice because they seen it happen once.

A miracle trade happened once so therefore its bound to happen again is the "logic" the majority of this board is banking on. It's like a person who won the lottery blowing all their money and telling people they can't say sh*t to him because he was right about hitting the lottery before and therefore it will happen again lol good luck with that!


Who would you have taken at 13?
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#108 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:06 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
still didn't answer the question.

name the available player you would've taken at 13.

I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.


Which guard would you have taken at 13, last night, when the 13th pick was on the clock, was the question.

I answered already even well before draft, read it again, I didn't have a specific guard pick. Coulibaly was my pick. There were questions about every guard.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#109 » by Godaddycurse » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:06 pm

hyper316 wrote:Wanted Cason, got sniped by OKC

Cool with Dick


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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#110 » by Fairview4Life » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:07 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.


Which guard would you have taken at 13, last night, when the 13th pick was on the clock, was the question.

I answered already even well before draft, read it again, I didn't have a specific guard pick. Coulibaly was my pick. There were questions about every guard.


So you'd pick a guard. No idea which one, just a guard. For need.

What if Fred stays? Does picking the best player available become an option again? What if a cheap option like trading for Delon Wright opens up. Still picking a guard for need?
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#111 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:08 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.
Still can't do it.

Bilal wasn't available


It's so he can take 14-30, choose the single best player and the drone on about how we made a massive mistake.

Wait for 3 months and we'll all be hearing about it.


It's exactly what will happen.

He's very predictable. I knew he wouldn't give a name.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#112 » by Duffman100 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:10 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:Still can't do it.

Bilal wasn't available


It's so he can take 14-30, choose the single best player and the drone on about how we made a massive mistake.

Wait for 3 months and we'll all be hearing about it.


It's exactly what will happen.


It's always why Bilal is the choice. The rawest prospect that will take the most time to develop. So you can constantly point to the 'potential' of Bilal as the opportunity the Raptors missed out on.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#113 » by TorontoBarneys » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:11 pm

Taking a deeper dive into the remaining prospects I actually think Dick was probably best talent available along with the best fit. I regret my earlier choice of being lukewarm on the pick and I'm quickly warming up to it.

Frankly I think we should have also tried to nab Sasser but it didn't happen.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#114 » by ItsDanger » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:12 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.
Still can't do it.

Bilal wasn't available


It's so he can take 14-30, choose the single best player and the drone on about how we made a massive mistake.

Wait for 3 months and we'll all be hearing about it.

No, I'm already on record multiple times stating the choice for guard would be difficult. That means I didn't have a preference there before the draft. So your statement is just false.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#115 » by beanbag » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:12 pm

I don't know why you're all picking on ItsDanger, he answered who he would have taken. Don't let the fact that individual wasn't available throw you off.

I personally would have taken Wembanyama, but I'm just built different.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#116 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:13 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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You said all of this before. And we won a title. You’ll say it all again. Rinse and repeat.


:lol: thanks for proving my point...this is how jaded this board is.

They really believe lightening will strike twice because they seen it happen once.

A miracle trade happened once so therefore its bound to happen again is the "logic" the majority of this board is banking on. It's like a person who won the lottery blowing all their money and telling people they can't say sh*t to him because he was right about hitting the lottery before and therefore it will happen again lol good luck with that!


Who would you have taken at 13?


Whitmore or Bufkin (unfortunately for him though, he likely won't get the PT with all the guards there) of who was available.

I also would've been happy if they just paid the minor damn price to move up and get the guy they wanted; Cason Wallace. Coulibaly is who I wanted going in but we obviously never really had a chance.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#117 » by gerrit4 » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:17 pm

My draft board was Cason, Bufkin, Coulibaly - but that's in part because I thought Dick would be gone. I still can't wrap my head around whether or not Bilal will be good.

But I loved the pick. There is something very satisfying about watching great shooters shoot, so I'm hoping his game will translate to the NBA. I've been hard against drafting for need, but I could see how having guys like Dick can help the development of Scottie, Banton, Precious, by giving them more space to operate.
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Post#118 » by tripa » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:18 pm

ItsDanger is just complaining for the sake of complaining. Call it like it is.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#119 » by wegotthabeet » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:19 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:I did well before the draft. I stated there are pros and cons to lot of the guards available. It would be a tough choice. That's why I leaned towards Coulibaly as BPA.

You guys are constantly extrapolating one example for everything.


Which guard would you have taken at 13, last night, when the 13th pick was on the clock, was the question.

I answered already even well before draft, read it again, I didn't have a specific guard pick. Coulibaly was my pick. There were questions about every guard.




hahaha this is you.

who would've taken @ 13?

i would have drafted Coulibaly.

but he wasn't available.

had he been available I would've taken him.

but he wasn't, so who you got @ 13 since Coulibaly wasn't available.

like I said pre-draft Coulibaly was my pick.
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Re: Rate the Dick Pick 

Post#120 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:23 pm

wegotthabeet wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:
Which guard would you have taken at 13, last night, when the 13th pick was on the clock, was the question.

I answered already even well before draft, read it again, I didn't have a specific guard pick. Coulibaly was my pick. There were questions about every guard.




hahaha this is you.

who would've taken @ 13?

i would have drafted Coulibably.

but he wasn't available.

had he been available I would've taken him.

but he wasn't, so who you got @ 13 since Coulibably wasn't available.

like I said pre-draft Coulibably was my pick.


He's going to watch a few months of the season first and then pick the best guy out of Hawkins, Bufkin, George, JHS, Whitehead, Sasser, Nick Smith, Brice. That will be his guy. He will let us know in 2024.

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