5 teams for whom Gradey Dick worked out for, passed on him

[Mister Ze]

He has a low ceiling, lacks quickness for a 6’7 guy and the weak frame makes his defense not really NBA ready.

But if you look pass that he can definitely turn into an efficient high volume 3 point shooter - close to what Tyler Herro brings off the bench for Miami.

Toronto may have found their future 6MOY candidate, and potentially a replacement for OG if he’s traded for a guard.

[will]

Players get passed on after working out for them everyday, B.

- Rico, aka Cam, in Paid in Full

[Rapsfan07]

Aside from Howard, the other players project as probably plus defenders in NBA. Other than that, its not that unusual and Dick went in his projected range anyways. The question is more valid as to why Orlando passed on him.

I think that's probably the most valuable question tbh. Orlando, who desperately needed shooting, reached for Howard instead of taking Dick.

I think there is something to that.

[lolekszmolek]

This is so silly. If one of the other five teams had not passed on Gradey Dick, he would not have been available for the Raptors. And then hypothetically whoever the Raptors had otherwise selected would have also been passed on by other teams. And if the Raptors selected someone who had not worked out with a team that had an earlier draft pick, people would wonder why the Raptors selected that player.

[TGM]

The former Kansas Jayhawks guard from Wichita had worked out with the Indiana Pacers (who held pick No. 7), Utah Jazz (No. 9), Oklahoma City Thunder (No. 10), Orlando Magic (No. 11) and Dallas Mavericks (No. 12). But each of those teams passed him by and picked other players.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/gradey-dick-wichita-jayhawks-now-202121092.html

Usually that does not happen unless you have a huge weakness in your game or there is an injury issue. Is this has you worried?

Look at it this way.

Pacers have Hield and Mathurin, Duarte

Wizards wanted Coulibaly

Jazz have Sexton, Horton and potentially Clarkson (I did think Utah was going to take him, but Hendricks was a better talent for them up front)

OKC wanted Cason and has Giddey and Shai, plus Jalen (They needed a PG more than a wing)

Magic have Wagner who is a star in the making along with Okeke. Rumour is ties to Juwan Howard made them go for Jett.

[Got Nuffin]

He fell because teams started reaaaaching for some reason.

Howard, Coulibaly, Wallace and Lively were all taken too high IMO. That's freakin great for us - can't believe people are complaining

[Indeed]

Aside from Howard, the other players project as probably plus defenders in NBA. Other than that, its not that unusual and Dick went in his projected range anyways. The question is more valid as to why Orlando passed on him.

I think that's probably the most valuable question tbh. Orlando, who desperately needed shooting, reached for Howard instead of taking Dick.

I think there is something to that.

Howard was projected in the lottery, and he dropped during the tournament due to performance and lack of lateral quickness to defend.

As compare to Dick, Dick lateral quickness is even worse, and lacked size to hide, but a higher IQ with better shooting.

Dick is projected to be a specialist, much like Trent (with better passing and athleticism), as I don't see him having above average handle to create off dribble. While there maybe ball handlers after our pick may become low-end 1st.

[LoveMyRaps]

srhcan every time he makes a garbage thread:

[Anticon]

Generally you only get to draft players others have passed on.

[will]

srhcan every time he makes a garbage thread:

Why you got to do srhcan like that?!?!?!?!?!

[Dino-Might]

I’m pretty sure at least 12 teams passed on Gradey Dick. Those that worked him out and passed and those that didn’t even like him enough to bring him in for a look.

OMG! He must be a bust!!

[JPriest]

He has a low ceiling, lacks quickness for a 6’7 guy and the weak frame makes his defense not really NBA ready.

But if you look pass that he can definitely turn into an efficient high volume 3 point shooter - close to what Tyler Herro brings off the bench for Miami.

Toronto may have found their future 6MOY candidate, and potentially a replacement for OG if he’s traded for a guard.

disagree. he's good foot work on the defensive end and he's long + tall. that's a good foundation to work with. it's a matter of adjusting to the NBA game, gaining strength, and improving his defensive instincts at the professional level which should come with experience. he's going to make mistakes defensively but that's expected with being young. glad Nick Nurse is no longer here cuz he'd probably give up on him after several defensive errors while also on a cold shooting streak.

the guy shoots and moves like like Klay Thompson. similar time to get their shots off, both can shoot 3's in a variety of ways, and both light on their feet with incredible balance and body control. if all goes to plan, he's all star material and a key cog in an offense for a contender. 6'8, a high release point and and a fluid athlete and body control on the shot is a deadly combination. his shot mechanics are consistent which is also key.

[SFour]

there's nothing mysterious about Gradey Dick...you can watch a few minutes of his highlights and you'll see what type of player he is.

with the 13th pick it's inevitable the Raptors would get a player that multiple teams have passed on...that doesn't mean that player would be a bust...there are a handful of good players drafted at 13 (Herro, Mitchell, Booker, Lavine)

[causal_fan]

The former Kansas Jayhawks guard from Wichita had worked out with the Indiana Pacers (who held pick No. 7), Utah Jazz (No. 9), Oklahoma City Thunder (No. 10), Orlando Magic (No. 11) and Dallas Mavericks (No. 12). But each of those teams passed him by and picked other players.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/gradey-dick-wichita-jayhawks-now-202121092.html

Usually that does not happen unless you have a huge weakness in your game or there is an injury issue. Is this has you worried?

We should send all of these teams a Thank You note.

[Boogie!]

All year long fans have been talking about how we need more shooting, more basketball iq, we draft a guy who brings exactly that and fans are worried...

[Raps Next GM]

The former Kansas Jayhawks guard from Wichita had worked out with the Indiana Pacers (who held pick No. 7), Utah Jazz (No. 9), Oklahoma City Thunder (No. 10), Orlando Magic (No. 11) and Dallas Mavericks (No. 12). But each of those teams passed him by and picked other players.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/gradey-dick-wichita-jayhawks-now-202121092.html

Usually that does not happen unless you have a huge weakness in your game or there is an injury issue. Is this has you worried?

Why would anyone worry about this? Teams invite what, a half-dozen (or more) players for personal workouts? They can’t draft them all.

Not to mention one only needs to look at those franchises, aside from OKC, none have exactly proven to be especially astute when it comes to selecting players in the draft… or other aspects of team building.

[tripa]

Youre telling me 12 players were selected before Gradey Dick? Masai and Bobby are asleep at the wheel as usual.

[Vorticity]

just say you hate the pick, why create a new thread and make **** up?

[Dino-Might]

It’s cute how the OP seems to think teams make their draft decisions primarily on the one day the player works out with the team, instead of their physical measurements, skills, projections and you know, the history of everything they have done in their basketball career up to that point.

[I_Like_Dirt]

Aside from Howard, the other players project as probably plus defenders in NBA. Other than that, its not that unusual and Dick went in his projected range anyways. The question is more valid as to why Orlando passed on him.

I think that's probably the most valuable question tbh. Orlando, who desperately needed shooting, reached for Howard instead of taking Dick.

I think there is something to that.

There might be something to it but it's not necessarily something great. Let's look at their recent picks where they took one guy to play a role and compare them to the next guy who plays a similar role taken in that draft.

2022 - The Magic take Banchero and the next pick is Holmgren - TBD

2021 - The Magic take Suggs and the next pick is Giddey - not looking good. Wagner over Williams and Kispert looks great though.

2020 - Cole Anthony over Maxey seems like a mistake.

2019 - Okeke over Brandon Clarke? Not my favourite but not a major loss.

2018 - Bamba over WCJ. I'm not a WCJ believer but Bamba is definitely worse.

2017 - Isaac over Markkanen. This one has gone back and forth a lot over just a few years but the dust hasn't settled in thr Magic's favour at all.

2016 - I'm bored of this now but for kicks the Magic decided they didn't want to draft Domantas Sabonis so they traded the pick on draft night.

Anyway, the point here is that if the Magic draft a player, you usually are in very good standing if you're the team that grabs the next guy on the board in a similar role. This year the Thunder took Cason Wallace after Black and the Raps got Grady after Jett. Given the draft histories of the teams involved (and the Magic having very little shooting around Black), it strikes me as pretty likely that this trend might continue.