Would you trade Maxey for Lillard? (Poll)

[Arsenal]

Right because historically we've done a great job signing someone. I love how you chose not to answer that. You know as well as I do we're not getting anymore impact worthy in FA next year.

Then we can trade for someone later if we acquire assets now. You know, like we TRADED for Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, and James Harden in recent years?

James only was traded because he forced the Nets. It was Daryl's only mine. Tobias is useless.

Jimmy was the only one.

So your argument is we traded for those guys (but they don’t count). We can now trade for Lillard and should. But after this we’ll never be able to make a big trade again.

So we MUST sell out now for Dame.

[AI_Efficiency]

Have we talked about how this may depend on what embiid wants and if we don’t make this trade and punt on the season, embiid asks for a trade and none of this matters anyway. Building around embiid and Maxey only works if Joel is fine with that plan.

What makes anyone think he’s not fine with the plan? He’s obviously been consulted about it and we don’t hear any complaints.

It’s just fans desperate for Dame inventing another bogus reason why we have to sell out for Lillard now.

I mean, we’ve done plenty of moves in the past he wasn’t thrilled with and you look around the league and plenty of other situations where players seem fine with the team’s direction until they aren’t. He may be fine with it, my point was more that this is a silly debate to have on this forum because at the end of the day, it is largely what Embiid wants or what Morey can sell him on.

[Kobblehead]

The results of the poll are satisfying.

[Stanford]

The results of the poll are satisfying.

Someone should make a list of all the players you would have traded Maxey for by now.

[Kobblehead]

All better options than a 36 year old 5'10" munchkin like Lillard!

[eyeatoma]

Then we can trade for someone later if we acquire assets now. You know, like we TRADED for Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris, and James Harden in recent years?

James only was traded because he forced the Nets. It was Daryl's only mine. Tobias is useless.

Jimmy was the only one.

So your argument is we traded for those guys (but they don’t count). We can now trade for Lillard and should. But after this we’ll never be able to make a big trade again.

So we MUST sell out now for Dame.

Again, I don't think we must do it. I think we should consider it, and I think Jo will make the decision in the end. I'd rather have a 27 year old dame too. I just think that Dame will probably perform better than Harden, and he most definitely did last year.

I didn't mentioned the guys we traded for, you did, in saying that we could get those kind of players. The only ones who really panned out were Jimmy, and I guess James for the regular season. Tobias was probably worth the players we traded him for, but was not worth the contract, as we all know.

[Stanford]

All better options than a 36 year old 5'10" munchkin like Lillard!

I guess I would rather have Cole Anthony given their contract situations

[Kobblehead]

Nah, the time to open up the Cole mine has passed now that we have Terq. The 6 for 16 slot has been filled.

[JudahMax]

No - because I don't rate Lillard. Way past his best.

However I do want to trade Maxey - just not for Dame. I think he is seriously overrated and Sixers should cash in before he gets found out.

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[sodmoraes]

I really like Maxey and would only trade him in some situations( a package to get Jaylen Brown for example), but i wouldnt trade him for dame. If we trade him, it has to be for a young player, that we can build as our main star, since Embiid is getting old. Dame is a better player than Maxey now( and probably Maxey never will reach his top years), but you dont trade a young asset like Maxey for a old, depreciating asset like Dame, just doesnt make sense. You are wasting our best young player( and possibly a trade chip), and it will be not enough, as we wont win the finals with Dame and Embiid anyways.

[Jhawk03]

I feel like this deserves its own thread and I'm curious how the majority of the fanbase leans.

Discuss.

Well ProcessDr since you're the OP and you're keen on this type of trade scenario thing, what are your thoughts on this to land Dame without losing Maxey?

LAC out: Mann, Powell, Covington, Batum, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
LAC in: Harden, Tucker, Thybulle

Por out: Lillard, Thybulle
Por in: Harris, Batum, Mann, 2028 LAC 1st, 2030 LAC 1st, 2028 PHI 2nd, 2029 PHI 1st, 2029 PHI 2nd via POR

PHI out: Harden, Harris, Tucker, 2028 2nd, 2029 1st, 2029 2nd via POR
PHI in: Lillard, Powell, Covington


Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Lillard/Springer/Korkmaz
Powell/House
Covington/Reed/Petrusev
Embiid/Bamba FA or Wood FA??

I'll reiterate, I'm unwilling to give up Maxey and couldn't vote maybe, but pairing Dame with Embiid is a years long dream of mine. We won't get Dame in the end and I guess time has run out so we're running it back with Harden anyway.

[Arsenal]

I can only assume people itching to trade Maxey for Lillard are the same people who thought the Eagles should trade Jalen Hurts for Russell Wilson one year ago.

[mjkvol]

I can only assume people itching to trade Maxey for Lillard are the same people who thought the Eagles should trade Jalen Hurts for Russell Wilson one year ago.

I'm just confused about the end game of these trades, unless it is continued early playoff exits followed by a long rebuild. That's the only logical goal of any of these trades.

[ProcessDoctor]

I feel like this deserves its own thread and I'm curious how the majority of the fanbase leans.

Discuss.

Well ProcessDr since you're the OP and you're keen on this type of trade scenario thing, what are your thoughts on this to land Dame without losing Maxey?

LAC out: Mann, Powell, Covington, Batum, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
LAC in: Harden, Tucker, Thybulle

Por out: Lillard, Thybulle
Por in: Harris, Batum, Mann, 2028 LAC 1st, 2030 LAC 1st, 2028 PHI 2nd, 2029 PHI 1st, 2029 PHI 2nd via POR

PHI out: Harden, Harris, Tucker, 2028 2nd, 2029 1st, 2029 2nd via POR
PHI in: Lillard, Powell, Covington


Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Lillard/Springer/Korkmaz
Powell/House
Covington/Reed/Petrusev
Embiid/Bamba FA or Wood FA??

I'll reiterate, I'm unwilling to give up Maxey and couldn't vote maybe, but pairing Dame with Embiid is a years long dream of mine. We won't get Dame in the end and I guess time has run out so we're running it back with Harden anyway.

Yea I'm open to something like that. I had something similar to that in the offseason thread (below). I like the addition of the extra 2nds. We probably would need to give a swap or two to POR as well.


LAC out: Mann, Covington, Morris, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
LAC in: Harden

PHI out: Harden, Harris, 2029 1st
PHI in: Lillard, Mann, Covington, Morris

POR out: Lillard
POR in: Harris, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st, 2030 LAC 1st (add two 2nds and two swaps as well)


Lillard/Maxey/Beverley
Mann/Springer/Korkmaz
(Melton trade)/Tucker/House
Covington/Morris/Petrusev
Embiid/Reed/(vet min)


Unpopular, but I think we'd need to bring Maxey off the bench (can still play him 32-33 mpg). We'd also probably need to trade Melton for a forward to have some roster balance.

[Roy The Natural]

I feel like this deserves its own thread and I'm curious how the majority of the fanbase leans.

Discuss.

Well ProcessDr since you're the OP and you're keen on this type of trade scenario thing, what are your thoughts on this to land Dame without losing Maxey?

LAC out: Mann, Powell, Covington, Batum, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
LAC in: Harden, Tucker, Thybulle

Por out: Lillard, Thybulle
Por in: Harris, Batum, Mann, 2028 LAC 1st, 2030 LAC 1st, 2028 PHI 2nd, 2029 PHI 1st, 2029 PHI 2nd via POR

PHI out: Harden, Harris, Tucker, 2028 2nd, 2029 1st, 2029 2nd via POR
PHI in: Lillard, Powell, Covington


Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Lillard/Springer/Korkmaz
Powell/House
Covington/Reed/Petrusev
Embiid/Bamba FA or Wood FA??

I'll reiterate, I'm unwilling to give up Maxey and couldn't vote maybe, but pairing Dame with Embiid is a years long dream of mine. We won't get Dame in the end and I guess time has run out so we're running it back with Harden anyway.

Yea I'm open to something like that. I had something similar to that in the offseason thread (below). I like the addition of the extra 2nds. We probably would need to give a swap or two to POR as well.


LAC out: Mann, Covington, Morris, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
LAC in: Harden

PHI out: Harden, Harris, 2029 1st
PHI in: Lillard, Mann, Covington, Morris

POR out: Lillard
POR in: Harris, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st, 2030 LAC 1st (add two 2nds and two swaps as well)


Lillard/Maxey/Beverley
Mann/Springer/Korkmaz
(Melton trade)/Tucker/House
Covington/Morris/Petrusev
Embiid/Reed/(vet min)


Unpopular, but I think we'd need to bring Maxey off the bench (can still play him 32-33 mpg). We'd also probably need to trade Melton for a forward to have some roster balance.

I'm not sure how that's any better than whatever the Heat can throw together for Portland.

[spikeslovechild]

If Lillard or Harden were in their prime it would make sense as an all-in move.

But not currently no.

[FireMorey]

In a vacuum I'd definitely consider Lillard for Maxey in a straight up swap. But since that can't happen and they'd have to include a large contract(either Harden or Tobias) to match the money, which could be used elsewhere to get something else or kept.. plus picks... plus probably Melton(since the Sixers can only offer one first, they'll need to make that up elsewhere) I can't do it.

The Sixers would be left with no team. It would be Embiid, Lillard and nothing else.

[Embiid P]

In a vacuum I'd definitely consider Lillard for Maxey in a straight up swap. But since that can't happen and they'd have to include a large contract(either Harden or Tobias) to match the money, which could be used elsewhere to get something else or kept.. plus picks... plus probably Melton(since the Sixers can only offer one first, they'll need to make that up elsewhere) I can't do it.

The Sixers would be left with no team. It would be Embiid, Lillard and nothing else.

Exactly. Whether this team chooses to keep Maxey or trade for Dame (I hope not) it's likely going to be up against the second tax apron in a few years time. Thus what it needs more than anything IMO are young players on cheap contracts who can contribute. By far the easiest way to do that is to acquire and develop more picks. It's pretty darn telling that the last of our draft picks to have made significant contributions to our team are Maxey and Reed who are about to get bigger contracts themselves.

Trading for Dame would be the exact opposite of that. The "trade for Dame at all costs and figure out the rest later" crowd seems to overlook the fact that there is more to a team than just two players no matter how good those two players are.

[ProcessDoctor]

In a vacuum I'd definitely consider Lillard for Maxey in a straight up swap. But since that can't happen and they'd have to include a large contract(either Harden or Tobias) to match the money, which could be used elsewhere to get something else or kept.. plus picks... plus probably Melton(since the Sixers can only offer one first, they'll need to make that up elsewhere) I can't do it.

The Sixers would be left with no team. It would be Embiid, Lillard and nothing else.

Exactly. Whether this team chooses to keep Maxey or trade for Dame (I hope not) it's likely going to be up against the second tax apron in a few years time. Thus what it needs more than anything IMO are young players on cheap contracts who can contribute. By far the easiest way to do that is to acquire and develop more picks. It's pretty darn telling that the last of our draft picks to have made significant contributions to our team are Maxey and Reed who are about to get bigger contracts themselves.

Trading for Dame would be the exact opposite of that. The "trade for Dame at all costs and figure out the rest later" crowd seems to overlook the fact that there is more to a team than just two players no matter how good those two players are.

For fun, as a way to challenge this notion...


BKN out: Finney-Smith, three 1sts
BKN in: Maxey, Batum

LAC out: Mann, Morris, Covington, Batum, two 1sts
LAC in: Harden, Tucker

PHI out: Harden, Harris, Maxey
PHI in: Lillard, Mann, Morris, Covington, Finney-Smith

POR out: Lillard
POR in: Harris, three 1sts via BKN, two 1sts from LAC


Lillard/Springer/Beverley
Mann/Melton/Korkmaz
Finney-Smith/(vet)/House
Covington/Morris/Petrusev
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

[FireMorey]

In a vacuum I'd definitely consider Lillard for Maxey in a straight up swap. But since that can't happen and they'd have to include a large contract(either Harden or Tobias) to match the money, which could be used elsewhere to get something else or kept.. plus picks... plus probably Melton(since the Sixers can only offer one first, they'll need to make that up elsewhere) I can't do it.

The Sixers would be left with no team. It would be Embiid, Lillard and nothing else.

Exactly. Whether this team chooses to keep Maxey or trade for Dame (I hope not) it's likely going to be up against the second tax apron in a few years time. Thus what it needs more than anything IMO are young players on cheap contracts who can contribute. By far the easiest way to do that is to acquire and develop more picks. It's pretty darn telling that the last of our draft picks to have made significant contributions to our team are Maxey and Reed who are about to get bigger contracts themselves.

Trading for Dame would be the exact opposite of that. The "trade for Dame at all costs and figure out the rest later" crowd seems to overlook the fact that there is more to a team than just two players no matter how good those two players are.

For fun, as a way to challenge this notion...


BKN out: Finney-Smith, three 1sts
BKN in: Maxey, Batum

LAC out: Mann, Morris, Covington, Batum, two 1sts
LAC in: Harden, Tucker

PHI out: Harden, Harris, Maxey
PHI in: Lillard, Mann, Morris, Covington, Finney-Smith

POR out: Lillard
POR in: Harris, three 1sts via BKN, two 1sts from LAC


Lillard/Springer/Beverley
Mann/Melton/Korkmaz
Finney-Smith/(vet)/House
Covington/Morris/Petrusev
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

Don't think Portland or the Clippers do that. Don't think they'd give up Mann for Harden period, let alone plus two 1sts and have to take on Tucker's contract.

And I think for Portland it's close, but I can't see them coming out of trading Lillard with only picks. He's their franchise icon. I think they'll need a young promising player to sell to the fans rather than just an expiring + picks.