2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation - Free Agency Begins

[bigfoot]

Gotta wonder if we are looking at DA, Payne, Wainwright for Turner, TJ, draft compensation. Then signing Bol Bol.

[lilfishi22]

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-summer-league-dispatch-the-latest-on-damian-lillard-pascal-siakam-and-others-who-might-be-on-the-move-221154632.html

I'd love McConnell here

McConnell makes more sense than Payne next to our Big 3 or/and Eric Gordon.

He takes less shots per game than Payne and has an smaller usage. Better defender too.

He also doesn't shoot 3's which worries me

[BobbieL]

Gotta wonder if we are looking at DA, Payne, Wainwright for Turner, TJ, draft compensation. Then signing Bol Bol.

I don’t think Indy had the cap space to take all three unless a player is added to Turner and TJ. Maybe Payne goes to a third team

[Mulhollanddrive]

Would love McConnell.

McConnell Gordon Bates-Diop Watanabe Eubanks

That's a championship bench.

But still have some hope Payne can rediscover his best game if he stays.

[Bogyo]

Not sure why Indy would trade TJ for Payne tho

[Mulhollanddrive]

Just looking at Payne's efficiency really the main difference was that he took 50 more shots at the rim in 2020-2021 probably playing with Saric opened the paint up. Wonder if he could play with the big 3 and have that same effect, Vogel stated he was pondering Payne as starter.

[SunsRback4Good]

Would love McConnell.

McConnell Gordon Bates-Diop Watanabe Eubanks

That's a championship bench.

But still have some hope Payne can rediscover his best game if he stays.

Championship bench have been extremely overrated. Who exactly off Heat’s & Nuggets bench play any significant minutes? Nuggets played Brown & Braun and at times Green but mostly 7 players playing heavy minutes while Heat played 8-9 deep and almost were swept. Once again having a deep team in playoffs is heavily overrated. You do need a bench for regular season in case of injuries, but playoffs is completely different where ur most important players play.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Not sure why Indy would trade TJ for Payne tho

Perhaps they'd enjoy some future second round picks?

Obviously, McConnell's perfect fit for us. But as for trading DA for Turner in the deal - rebounding is going to be an issue with the way our roster's constructed. Replacing DA with Turner will make that problem worse. OTOH, Ayton's the only guy on the roster who can't shoot threes. Maybe we can just outscore everyone.

[Fo-Real]

Not sure why Indy would trade TJ for Payne tho

Would have to be part of a bigger Ayton, Turner trade.

[matt131]

Sounds like Harden to PHX any day now lol

Read on Twitter

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[TOO]

These "insiders" always hedging their bets hoping against hope that one day their little of nugget of maybe it might just happen and then I'll be worshiped forever is a really odd behavior. Even weirder is the kids (humans? Who am I to assume how old you wanna be) who worship at the altar of these nobodies.

[Stix]

These "insiders" always hedging their bets hoping against hope that one day their little of nugget of maybe it might just happen and then I'll be worshiped forever is a really odd behavior. Even weirder is the kids (humans? Who am I to assume how old you wanna be) who worship at the altar of these nobodies.

#flex

[Sunsdeuce]

This is wild. Ishbia is basically doing everything right now. He’s owner and GM right now.

Read on Twitter

“ James Jones, the Suns president of basketball operations, was inside the plush suite with team CEO Josh Bartelstein and new coach Frank Vogel, all of whom had flown in the day before on a private jet.

But it was Mat Ishbia, the team's new owner as of earlier this year, who led the three-hour session that wasn't just aimed at basketball but how Beal's family would fit into what's being built in Phoenix.

When the meeting ended, Beal was on his way toward being a Sun.

"That plane ride home will be a memory I have for a long time," Bartelstein told ESPN. "We had prep calls, stayed up late the night before working together on the presentation and it all paid off. Mat led and it went really well."

Ishbia has heard the stories and warnings about so-called new owner syndrome, the winding history of freshly minted governors making overaggressive mistakes in their first months. Mikhail Prokhorov, the former Brooklyn Nets owner who pushed for what became an infamous trade for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, is at the top of a list, among other examples.”

[bigfoot]

This is wild. Ishbia is basically doing everything right now. He’s owner and GM right now.

Read on Twitter

“ James Jones, the Suns president of basketball operations, was inside the plush suite with team CEO Josh Bartelstein and new coach Frank Vogel, all of whom had flown in the day before on a private jet.

But it was Mat Ishbia, the team's new owner as of earlier this year, who led the three-hour session that wasn't just aimed at basketball but how Beal's family would fit into what's being built in Phoenix.

When the meeting ended, Beal was on his way toward being a Sun.

"That plane ride home will be a memory I have for a long time," Bartelstein told ESPN. "We had prep calls, stayed up late the night before working together on the presentation and it all paid off. Mat led and it went really well."

Ishbia has heard the stories and warnings about so-called new owner syndrome, the winding history of freshly minted governors making overaggressive mistakes in their first months. Mikhail Prokhorov, the former Brooklyn Nets owner who pushed for what became an infamous trade for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, is at the top of a list, among other examples.”

My bet is it is a lot of consensus building between owner, GM, CEO, and coach. A single decision maker (e.g., Sarver) is a single point of failure. "Group Think" generally wins out.

[bwgood77]

Not sure why Indy would trade TJ for Payne tho

Age of roster probably.

[SunsRback4Good]

This is wild. Ishbia is basically doing everything right now. He’s owner and GM right now.

Read on Twitter

“ James Jones, the Suns president of basketball operations, was inside the plush suite with team CEO Josh Bartelstein and new coach Frank Vogel, all of whom had flown in the day before on a private jet.

But it was Mat Ishbia, the team's new owner as of earlier this year, who led the three-hour session that wasn't just aimed at basketball but how Beal's family would fit into what's being built in Phoenix.

When the meeting ended, Beal was on his way toward being a Sun.

"That plane ride home will be a memory I have for a long time," Bartelstein told ESPN. "We had prep calls, stayed up late the night before working together on the presentation and it all paid off. Mat led and it went really well."

Ishbia has heard the stories and warnings about so-called new owner syndrome, the winding history of freshly minted governors making overaggressive mistakes in their first months. Mikhail Prokhorov, the former Brooklyn Nets owner who pushed for what became an infamous trade for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, is at the top of a list, among other examples.”

My bet is it is a lot of consensus building between owner, GM, CEO, and coach. A single decision maker (e.g., Sarver) is a single point of failure. "Group Think" generally wins out.

Bingo! Well said and I agree that’s what the Suns are doing at this point. Bringing the important people together in one room to make important decisions.

[BobbieL]

Not sure why Indy would trade TJ for Payne tho

Age of roster probably.

TJ has 5m due next season - also would clear cap for the long term . Probably would have to include Ish for the math to work

I wonder if they think Ayton has more upside potential and maybe it a bigger deal

Two days….7/15

[grumpysaddle]

I've wanted TJ McConnell on the Suns for years now. If you can turn Cam Payne into TJ McConnell, you do it 10 times out of 10.

[sunskerr]

I've wanted TJ McConnell on the Suns for years now. If you can turn Cam Payne into TJ McConnell, you do it 10 times out of 10.

Havent wanted TJ for years but I think with all our scorers now its clear TMac (haha) is a better fit for this squad and would help provide a "steady hand" off the bench. Could help run our offense when its sputtering or provide a different look whenever we want it. And yeah hes just flat out better than Cam Payne.

Payne quite frankly, we love the guy, but I think he's going to fall off relatively quickly. Speed is just a massive part of his game and once that first step starts to go imo he'll be out of the league. Not a guy you want past 31 or 32 years old.

[SunsRback4Good]

I've wanted TJ McConnell on the Suns for years now. If you can turn Cam Payne into TJ McConnell, you do it 10 times out of 10.

Matt Ishbia bringing back Suns players we wanted or should have had in the past. First, Eric Gordon and now possibly TJ McConnell. I wonder if Rajon Rondo is next the player we should have drafted, but traded to the Celtics in a draft-day trade.