Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Arsenal]

Morey has no interest in taking on long term deals like Lavine by the sounds of it.

No interest in long-term deals unless it's a star. Depends if he believes LaVine is a star or not.

[mjkvol]

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From this quote it appears that Morey's plan is exactly what I was hoping it would be. Patience, and cap space and flexibility next summer.

Making any assumptions you'd like, what could that look like?

Your guess is as good as mine. If the goal is 'star or bust', it might be a disappointment, but if he's able to acquire picks and get us back in the draft and uses the space to sign quality role players and build around Embiid and Maxey, who knows?

Listen, I get that what I'm suggesting is light years from Morey's M.O., but to me it's the route that mid market teams are going to have to take to be successful moving forward, and just maybe he understands that reality.

[mjkvol]

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From this quote it appears that Morey's plan is exactly what I was hoping it would be. Patience, and cap space and flexibility next summer.

I think he’s basically being forced in to that since no one is ponying up for Harden. If a player like Lavine or Derozan were on the table for James… best believe they’d be a Sixer right now.

I'd be fine with DeRozan, and more so if he brought a pick or two with him.

[Iverson Armband]

Yes I do, prior to his fall from grace Ben was valued higher than him.

Morey just had a hard on for Harden.

Simmons was absolutely not rated higher than Sabonis after that Atlanta series which is the timeframe we’re discussing.

At least nowhere other than possibly this board.

That's a subjective opinion. I think he would have easily fetched Haliburton. I don't think he would have gotten Fox, unless we gave up someone else.

Don't be gullible man, why would Morey ever be 100% honest about this stuff. It serves him no purpose to say that he messed that up, and could have gotten a future all star who is probably going to become the best passer in the NBA for washed up Harden who folds in the playoffs.

You think a man who was legitimately scared to play basketball and owed 120+ million over the next 3 years could have easily fetched Tyrese Haliburton.

Ok.

[Stanford]

You think a man who is legitimately scared to play basketball and owed 120+ million over the next 3 years could have easily fetched Tyrese Haliburton.

And you don't think so. Both of you have no clue what was actually on the table.

[GoSixersBro]

Morey shouldn't be worried about another star. We have our two stars. It's time to beef up the rest of the line-up.

I don't think our FO has the eye for talent nor creativity to build a successful squad. We need to be identifying the Aaron Gordon types, not necessarily guys with his game, but players who have fell off the radar maybe because they were asked to play in bigger roles, but would succeed as a #3 or #4. A lot of title teams go out and snag these difference makers. They aren't always the sexiest names but they get the machine to work and put good teams over the top making them great ones.

[Iverson Armband]

You think a man who is legitimately scared to play basketball and owed 120+ million over the next 3 years could have easily fetched Tyrese Haliburton.

And you don't think so. Both of you have no clue what was actually on the table.

Nope, no clue other than what Daryl just actually said.

[eyeatoma]

You think a man who is legitimately scared to play basketball and owed 120+ million over the next 3 years could have easily fetched Tyrese Haliburton.

And you don't think so. Both of you have no clue what was actually on the table.

Nope, no clue other than what Daryl just actually said.

Yeah I forgot, GMs are always 100% truthful. You are just siding with this because it fits your narrative. I could be wrong, but you have no proof that you are right. There were enough leaks that claimed that we had an offer for Hali. How does it benefit Morey to admit this? It doesn't, and it makes him look bad.

[Stanford]

Nope, no clue other than what Daryl just actually said.

Bless you.

[Iverson Armband]

And you don't think so. Both of you have no clue what was actually on the table.

Nope, no clue other than what Daryl just actually said.

Yeah I forgot, GMs are always 100% truthful. You are just siding with this because it fits your narrative. I could be wrong, but you have no proof that you are right. There were enough leaks that claimed that we had an offer for Hali. How does it benefit Morey to admit this? It doesn't, and it makes him look bad.

Of course I don’t know with 100% certainty. Logic tells you what the most likely scenario was.

Take a look at what Haliburton was traded for and then look what predictably happened with Simmons. Sac is dumb, but they ain’t that dumb. You just happened to be one of the delusional fans at the time, I get it… since we’re talking narratives.

I also choose to believe what I hear from Morey over say, Keith Pompey. But hey, that’s just me. Guess it makes you feel better to assume a man is lying than to admit your valuation was off.

[76Shots]

Morey shouldn't be worried about another star. We have our two stars. It's time to beef up the rest of the line-up.

I don't think our FO has the eye for talent nor creativity to build a successful squad. We need to be identifying the Aaron Gordon types, not necessarily guys with his game, but players who have fell off the radar maybe because they were asked to play in bigger roles, but would succeed as a #3 or #4. A lot of title teams go out and snag these difference makers. They aren't always the sexiest names but they get the machine to work and put good teams over the top making them great ones.

Yeah I agree. Its a few guys I like who fit that mold:

Killian Hayes
Sadiq Bey
Onyeka OKungwu
Kenrich Williams
Brandon Clarke
Tari Eason

[Stanford]

I also choose to believe what I hear from Morey over say, Keith Pompey. But hey, that’s just me.

Morey has incentive to lie. Keith is just incompetent.

[FireMorey]

Whether it's a star or a younger player with potential, unless the Sixers trade Maxey they really don't have the means to add + players to the roster via trade at all. They're completely stuck.

I think this is why they've seemingly taken the pause year approach. They realized that unless they can get a star this summer, it's not going to be enough to get them over the hump. At least next summer they will have flexibility. It doesn't guarantee anything, but at least they'll have options when this summer they have next to no options at all.

[eyeatoma]

Nope, no clue other than what Daryl just actually said.

Yeah I forgot, GMs are always 100% truthful. You are just siding with this because it fits your narrative. I could be wrong, but you have no proof that you are right. There were enough leaks that claimed that we had an offer for Hali. How does it benefit Morey to admit this? It doesn't, and it makes him look bad.

Of course I don’t know with 100% certainty. Logic tells you what the most likely scenario was.

Take a look at what Haliburton was traded for and then look what predictably happened with Simmons. Sac is dumb, but they ain’t that dumb. You just happened to be one of the delusional fans at the time, I get it… since we’re talking narratives.

I also choose to believe what I hear from Morey over say, Keith Pompey. But hey, that’s just me. Guess it makes you feel better to assume a man is lying than to admit your valuation was off.

I don't think you know how these guys work. Everything is subterfuge. They only reveal what they want to reveal. It's all calculated. Some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks, but Morey is not one of them.

You can go on blindly believing everything he said though. A conman would have a great time with you.

[Iverson Armband]

I also choose to believe what I hear from Morey over say, Keith Pompey. But hey, that’s just me.

Morey has incentive to lie. Keith is just incompetent.

I doubt one actually cares what us dweebs think and the other is trying not to get laid off.

[Stanford]

I doubt one actually cares what us dweebs think

Oh please, Morey leaks his preferred narrative to the media all the time. He doesn't do it for dweebs, he does it for leverage.

[Iverson Armband]

Yeah I forgot, GMs are always 100% truthful. You are just siding with this because it fits your narrative. I could be wrong, but you have no proof that you are right. There were enough leaks that claimed that we had an offer for Hali. How does it benefit Morey to admit this? It doesn't, and it makes him look bad.

Of course I don’t know with 100% certainty. Logic tells you what the most likely scenario was.

Take a look at what Haliburton was traded for and then look what predictably happened with Simmons. Sac is dumb, but they ain’t that dumb. You just happened to be one of the delusional fans at the time, I get it… since we’re talking narratives.

I also choose to believe what I hear from Morey over say, Keith Pompey. But hey, that’s just me. Guess it makes you feel better to assume a man is lying than to admit your valuation was off.

I don't think you know how these guys work. Everything is subterfuge. They only reveal what they want to reveal. It's all calculated. Some of them are as dumb as a box of rocks, but Morey is not one of them.

You can go on blindly believing everything he said though. A conman would have a great time with you.

And you’d rather ignore all logic and fact to believe a man is fibbing 2 years removed from a trade that never happened because why? To ease your feelings towards him?

Newsflash: you’re not that important.

[Stanford]

And you’d rather ignore all logic and fact to believe a man is fibbing 2 years removed from a trade that never happened because why? To ease your feelings towards him?

Newsflash: you’re not that important.

Any reason why you're being so obnoxious about this?

[Iverson Armband]

I doubt one actually cares what us dweebs think

Oh please, Morey leaks his preferred narrative to the media all the time. He doesn't do it for dweebs, he does it for leverage.

Rightttt and him denying a trade that never happened 2 years ago helps him with leverage now in this current situation…how exactly?

Let’s hear this stretch.

[Iverson Armband]

And you’d rather ignore all logic and fact to believe a man is fibbing 2 years removed from a trade that never happened because why? To ease your feelings towards him?

Newsflash: you’re not that important.

Any reason why you're being so obnoxious about this?

Read through. Any reason you’re only asking me that? Other than you disagree with me?