Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[LeonJordanJr24]

Where are the wings on the team. We got 5 centers and forward 2 PFs. House the only wing. What the hell is going on. We can't get Oubre ?? wtf

[FireMorey]

They aren't trying to win next season. It is what it is. I suggest coming to terms with that now.

And also recommend taking a season off from watching the team to rejuvenate yourself for 2024-25.

[Stanford]

I predict next year will be funner than this year because they're going to let Maxey do his thing. Better coach too. Maybe they'll run more than one play.

[the_process]

I predict next year will be funner than this year because they're going to let Maxey do his thing. Better coach too. Maybe they'll run more than one play.

Could be funner. Depends on the Harden situation.

[Decipher]

I am a Nets fan but don’t have anything against Harden as we were (still are tbh) totally dysfunctional

2023 fat suit rapper fanboy Harden is still much better than Hali & I say that as someone who hates watching him play

He was a punt worth taking IMO

[MoeGreene]

Absolutely, agreed, he was worth a go.

Now, how slick is Morey when it comes to getting him out?

I am a Nets fan but don’t have anything against Harden as we were (still are tbh) totally dysfunctional

2023 fat suit rapper fanboy Harden is still much better than Hali & I say that as someone who hates watching him play

He was a punt worth taking IMO

[rocketsfan100]

Noah levick on Sixers podcasts: the harden situation has become as bad as the Simmons situation already . No communication from either side..Really sad and chaotic/childish behavioural tendencies on display from both sides.

[Jailblazers7]

I predict next year will be funner than this year because they're going to let Maxey do his thing. Better coach too. Maybe they'll run more than one play.

It will be very fun to see BBall Paul getting legitimate minutes & a consistent role too.

[Philly's Best]

Noah levick on Sixers podcasts: the harden situation has become as bad as the Simmons situation already . No communication from either side..Really sad and chaotic/childish behavioural tendencies on display from both sides.

No one made him opt in. He did this to himself because no-one wanted to pay him so he took the 35 mil and ran. He had the opportunity to be free and sign wherevervhe wanted. Could've taken a Westbrook deal if he wanted LA that bad.

[Iverson Armband]

Noah levick on Sixers podcasts: the harden situation has become as bad as the Simmons situation already . No communication from either side..Really sad and chaotic/childish behavioural tendencies on display from both sides.

No one made him opt in. He did this to himself because no-one wanted to pay him so he took the 35 mil and ran. He had the opportunity to be free and sign wherevervhe wanted. Could've taken a Westbrook deal if he wanted LA that bad.

Exactly. He wanted the Sixers to pay him handsomely to do the same disappearing act he does every year.

I’m personally thrilled he pulled this stunt. All he was going to do was ensure we don’t win anything again and stunt Maxey in the process.

[Iverson Armband]

I am a Nets fan but don’t have anything against Harden as we were (still are tbh) totally dysfunctional

2023 fat suit rapper fanboy Harden is still much better than Hali & I say that as someone who hates watching him play

He was a punt worth taking IMO

Bro, c’mon. You’re not fooling anyone. You know you’re happy as hell you don’t have to deal with the all-Tyrese backcourt for the next 8 years.

[sixers hoops]

I'd have no interest in Bones Hyland. Dude is destined to be dropping highlights in Turkey for the next 10 years.

If we want a young bench guard, I'd rather engage the Knicks to see if we could build a trade around Quickly/Grimes. They're never gonna deal with us tho because they're just circling hoping that Embiid demands a trade.

I don’t know much about him, but I probably rank Clippers assets that are primarily being discussed as:
2028 first
2030 first
Mann
Hyland
Kobe
Powell

We traded what would likely be our 27 pick to NJ, so I would love to recoup a pick for Harden. I think the 2030 is really far away, but still a tradable asset.

Mann provides some on-court value at $10.5 and $11.4 million over next two seasons. Pretty good value.

Hyland is somewhat of a worse version of Maxey. It’s tough to even play multiple little guys together, unless Bones can guard twos; however, he looks like he has some NBA skills.

Kobe Brown is a recent late first, so if the Sixers like him, it makes sense.

Powell would be an okay fit, but the contract is a negative for us.

Cov and Morris don’t move the needle. Just salary filler at this point. I’m a huge Covington fan, but he is not the same player the Sixers traded a few years ago.

Without a first, I don’t see a deal to be made. Even taking on Mann’s contract for an expiring contract isn’t moving the needle much. They just committed $7 million to Paul Reed. They probably don’t want to commit another chunk of money to a backend starter/bench guy.

Without a first, the Clippers offers are so bad, I think the Sixers would be fine going the Simmons route with Harden. I’m all for trading Harden for a mediocre deal, but the Clippers aren’t offering anything mediocre.

[eyeatoma]

I don't think anyone has brought this up but if the idea is to wait for the best Harden deal there is a high likelyhood that he hurts his hammy again. If he gets a serious injury like a tear we're screwed. Then everyone will just say why didn't you do the deal.

Harden is old, this could easily happen.

[76ciology]

I don't think anyone has brought this up but if the idea is to wait for the best Harden deal there is a high likelyhood that he hurts his hammy again. If he gets a serious injury like a tear we're screwed. Then everyone will just say why didn't you do the deal.

Harden is old, this could easily happen.

We’re not screwed. We just let his contract expire. We also could also get a higher draft pick.

Norman Powell is not THAT of a “plus” asset on our team because we have to pay him for next year and beyond which will hurt our cap space next season.

Clippers is the team that is screwed. They could had Harden to pair with Kawhi with a LOT of depth (which they can trade for their 3rd guy) but they missed the boat. So all they do is to run their team back from last season for the last time.

Best return: Paul George
2nd best return: all the picks and players we want
3rd best return: not doing the trade at all
Worst return: being antsy and just take what the Clips is giving us

[76ciology]

If we’re not going to get paul george, the assets we want in return.

Norman Powell (possibly ship to a 3rd team)
Robert Covington
Terance Mann
2027 1st
2028 pick swap
2029 1st
2030 pick swap

[eyeatoma]

I don't think anyone has brought this up but if the idea is to wait for the best Harden deal there is a high likelyhood that he hurts his hammy again. If he gets a serious injury like a tear we're screwed. Then everyone will just say why didn't you do the deal.

Harden is old, this could easily happen.

We’re not screwed. We just let his contract expire. We also could also get a higher draft pick.

Norman Powell is not THAT of a “plus” asset on our team because we have to pay him for next year and beyond which will hurt our cap space next season.

Clippers is the team that is screwed. They could had Harden to pair with Kawhi with a LOT of depth (which they can trade for their 3rd guy) but they missed the boat. So all they do is to run their team back from last season for the last time.

Best return: Paul George
2nd best return: all the picks and players we want
3rd best return: not doing the trade at all
Worst return: being antsy and just take what the Clips is giving us

Fact of the matter is, if Harden goes down, the year is wasted. The year is probably wasted anyways, but this way it's guaranteed. Then we go for capspace for a unremarkable free agent class. Of the few that are appealing, will they even sign in Philly?

[76ciology]

I don't think anyone has brought this up but if the idea is to wait for the best Harden deal there is a high likelyhood that he hurts his hammy again. If he gets a serious injury like a tear we're screwed. Then everyone will just say why didn't you do the deal.

Harden is old, this could easily happen.

We’re not screwed. We just let his contract expire. We also could also get a higher draft pick.

Norman Powell is not THAT of a “plus” asset on our team because we have to pay him for next year and beyond which will hurt our cap space next season.

Clippers is the team that is screwed. They could had Harden to pair with Kawhi with a LOT of depth (which they can trade for their 3rd guy) but they missed the boat. So all they do is to run their team back from last season for the last time.

Best return: Paul George
2nd best return: all the picks and players we want
3rd best return: not doing the trade at all
Worst return: being antsy and just take what the Clips is giving us

Fact of the matter is, if Harden goes down, the year is wasted. The year is probably wasted anyways, but this way it's guaranteed. Then we go for capspace for a unremarkable free agent class. Of the few that are appealing, will they even sign in Philly?

We getting Norman Powell centered package is guaranteed wasted anyway, atleast by just letting Harden expire we have a better chance in the next few years.

Will they sign in Philly? As Morey said, we’re the only contender with that much cap space next season. We also have Nick Nurse who may help us land Siakam and/or OG. PG and Kawhi are also both FAs. Some big star like Jaylen Brown or LaMelo Ball may ask for a trade.The chances we land 1 of them is higher than winning a championship with Norman Powell next year.

For next season, we just try to develop this “double big” scheme. Where we have 4 guys who can be a long term fit or a place holder for Siakam.

[76thBearCub]

James Harden should really recognize he's guna fall off the cliff right behind Westbrook if he's not guna buck up.

[Jhawk03]

We’re not screwed. We just let his contract expire. We also could also get a higher draft pick.

Norman Powell is not THAT of a “plus” asset on our team because we have to pay him for next year and beyond which will hurt our cap space next season.

Clippers is the team that is screwed. They could had Harden to pair with Kawhi with a LOT of depth (which they can trade for their 3rd guy) but they missed the boat. So all they do is to run their team back from last season for the last time.

Best return: Paul George
2nd best return: all the picks and players we want
3rd best return: not doing the trade at all
Worst return: being antsy and just take what the Clips is giving us

Fact of the matter is, if Harden goes down, the year is wasted. The year is probably wasted anyways, but this way it's guaranteed. Then we go for capspace for a unremarkable free agent class. Of the few that are appealing, will they even sign in Philly?

We getting Norman Powell centered package is guaranteed wasted anyway, atleast by just letting Harden expire we have a better chance in the next few years.

Will they sign in Philly? As Morey said, we’re the only contender with that much cap space next season. We also have Nick Nurse who may help us land Siakam and/or OG. PG and Kawhi are also both FAs. Some big star like Jaylen Brown or LaMelo Ball may ask for a trade.The chances we land 1 of them is higher than winning a championship with Norman Powell next year.

For next season, we just try to develop this “double big” scheme. Where we have 4 guys who can be a long term fit or a place holder for Siakam.

It sounds like you both are saying the same thing, in a different language but without a translator.

Getting something (???) for Harden vs nothing is a waste either way. I'm so out on this crap that I can't believe even Joshua knows what to do, let alone Daryl the genius.

[76ciology]

Fact of the matter is, if Harden goes down, the year is wasted. The year is probably wasted anyways, but this way it's guaranteed. Then we go for capspace for a unremarkable free agent class. Of the few that are appealing, will they even sign in Philly?

We getting Norman Powell centered package is guaranteed wasted anyway, atleast by just letting Harden expire we have a better chance in the next few years.

Will they sign in Philly? As Morey said, we’re the only contender with that much cap space next season. We also have Nick Nurse who may help us land Siakam and/or OG. PG and Kawhi are also both FAs. Some big star like Jaylen Brown or LaMelo Ball may ask for a trade.The chances we land 1 of them is higher than winning a championship with Norman Powell next year.

For next season, we just try to develop this “double big” scheme. Where we have 4 guys who can be a long term fit or a place holder for Siakam.

It sounds like you both are saying the same thing, in a different language but without a translator.

Getting something (???) for Harden vs nothing is a waste either way. I'm so out on this crap that I can't believe even Joshua knows what to do, let alone Daryl the genius.

Eyeatoma: if harden goes down season is guaranteed wasted

Me: harden goes down or we get a norman powell centered deal the season are both guaranteed wasted

Eyeatoma: not so optimistic about landing FA

Me: optimistic in landing FA