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Post#1401 » by VaDe255 » Sat Sep 9, 2023 4:12 pm

JKiddy wrote:As the Blazer's are my West Coast team (since the mid 90s) and as a Nets fan for my entire life (been through battles and similar situations as yours right now), I feel for you. I hope you get the best deal possible for Dame.

I am scared **** now that the Nets will trade way too much away for Dame and I hope he gets moved elsewhere soon. Whatever happens things will get better. BK just had to deal with a few headaches and now it feels great now that we have much better energy around this franchise and I think you will feel the same once Dame is moved!


I would not be worried about that, if you are a team trading for Dame, you really want to try and win in next 1-3 years.
Nets aren't there right now. My guess would be, they are trying to get Simmons off the books first and sign some big FA in next 2 years or see how their players develop, possibly find a cheaper trade for a fitting player (not like the Dame deal, where you commit most of your assests), before they would be looking for a trade like that.
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Post#1402 » by JKiddy » Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:38 pm

I have a strange feeling Simmons is going to come back close to what he was. I think they are going to decide on him this season. I agree and think they are saving most of their draft capital, expirings, and youth for Luka, Embiid, or Giannis (or the next big fish that is 30 or under).
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Post#1403 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:54 am

I cant wait to get Dame back into a Blazers jersey and into camp. Lets get these guys playing some basketball together. Winning? Overrated. Just start 4 guards and a center out there on the court and go to town. Yeah we will move him when a good opportunity for both sides comes up but until then lets go letter O, just have some fun out there teaching the youngin's how to ball!


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Post#1404 » by JasonStern » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:30 pm

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Post#1405 » by m0ng0 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:08 pm

THANK BABY JEEBUS!!! if only we had any idea what's going on with Nurk or Dame. Reath had the most upside of any other C on this roster! I'm not saying he is a starter, but he at least provides some upside besides the 2 stick men we have right now.

Cronin is in a pickle, fill out the roster based on what we have RIGHT NOW, or build based on a trade that may or may not happen. Reath is the most positive off season signing so far. Which is kinda sad, but Dame is holding everything up.
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Post#1406 » by JRoy » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:26 pm

It’s tough being a Blazer fan.

Reath is a ham and egger at best.
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Post#1407 » by zzaj » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:38 pm

I like Reath, and think he's fine as a backup. He's a better two-way player then I think people realize, and if you watch AUS basketball it's pretty easy to see that he can play within a system. There will be plenty of missed Blazer shots for him to gobble up...

I think I mostly like him because from a distance with his headband and body movements he looks exactly like a non-doughy Z-bo.
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Post#1408 » by m0ng0 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:56 pm

JRoy wrote:It’s tough being a Blazer fan.

Reath is a ham and egger at best.


well Badji and Butler look like they could use a plate of ham and eggs 3 times a day for a month.
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Post#1409 » by JRoy » Mon Sep 11, 2023 6:57 pm

m0ng0 wrote:
JRoy wrote:It’s tough being a Blazer fan.

Reath is a ham and egger at best.


well Badji and Butler look like they could use a plate of ham and eggs 3 times a day for a month.


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Post#1410 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Sep 11, 2023 8:31 pm

m0ng0 wrote:THANK BABY JEEBUS!!! if only we had any idea what's going on with Nurk or Dame. Reath had the most upside of any other C on this roster! I'm not saying he is a starter, but he at least provides some upside besides the 2 stick men we have right now.

Cronin is in a pickle, fill out the roster based on what we have RIGHT NOW, or build based on a trade that may or may not happen. Reath is the most positive off season signing so far. Which is kinda sad, but Dame is holding everything up.


He is 27... what upside does he have??


Personally I have him as a step down from Eubanks, who impressed me last season but wouldn't ever be mistaken as a starting caliber center.
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Post#1411 » by BlazersBroncos » Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:33 pm

Best case w/ Reath is he shows himself a capable backup and we can swing a deadline deal w/ a PO teams and get a SRP for him.

27 and first year in the NBA - he isnt going to develop. He is a lunch pail guy that might make it as a backup C if he can rebound well and not get murdered in the PNR.
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Post#1412 » by m0ng0 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:38 pm

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m0ng0 wrote:THANK BABY JEEBUS!!! if only we had any idea what's going on with Nurk or Dame. Reath had the most upside of any other C on this roster! I'm not saying he is a starter, but he at least provides some upside besides the 2 stick men we have right now.

Cronin is in a pickle, fill out the roster based on what we have RIGHT NOW, or build based on a trade that may or may not happen. Reath is the most positive off season signing so far. Which is kinda sad, but Dame is holding everything up.


He is 27... what upside does he have??


Personally I have him as a step down from Eubanks, who impressed me last season but wouldn't ever be mistaken as a starting caliber center.


Hahaha I don't know where you got the idea that I think he is a starter, but whatever man. It's solid depth, I don't give a crap about a "timeline" the guy is good for 10/8 which is better than anybody else with a C next to their name current on this roster that's not named Nurk. Relax man.
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Post#1413 » by JasonStern » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:26 pm

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Post#1414 » by red_power » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:45 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:Best case w/ Reath is he shows himself a capable backup and we can swing a deadline deal w/ a PO teams and get a SRP for him.

27 and first year in the NBA - he isnt going to develop. He is a lunch pail guy that might make it as a backup C if he can rebound well and not get murdered in the PNR.

But he might turn out to be a decent back up center right after a short accommodation process. That's a role a 20-year-old prospect like Baji is two years from being two years away from being able to fulfill.
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Re: Dame requests a trade. 

Post#1415 » by DeBlazerRiddem » Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:28 pm

m0ng0 wrote:
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m0ng0 wrote:THANK BABY JEEBUS!!! if only we had any idea what's going on with Nurk or Dame. Reath had the most upside of any other C on this roster! I'm not saying he is a starter, but he at least provides some upside besides the 2 stick men we have right now.

Cronin is in a pickle, fill out the roster based on what we have RIGHT NOW, or build based on a trade that may or may not happen. Reath is the most positive off season signing so far. Which is kinda sad, but Dame is holding everything up.


He is 27... what upside does he have??


Personally I have him as a step down from Eubanks, who impressed me last season but wouldn't ever be mistaken as a starting caliber center.


Hahaha I don't know where you got the idea that I think he is a starter, but whatever man. It's solid depth, I don't give a crap about a "timeline" the guy is good for 10/8 which is better than anybody else with a C next to their name current on this roster that's not named Nurk. Relax man.


Lol did the double question mark make it seem like I am agitated by this? I was just curious what possible upside he has at his age.


My point was he is destined for low end bench depth at best and has no upside beyond that, so curious what you are seeing that I am not.
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Post#1416 » by Blazers98 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:44 pm

IMO the signing of Knox and Reath indicates that the organization is planning on being bad this year- real bad.
I like this strategy TBH. We get another high draft pick next year- top 3?
Scoot, Sharpe, and a top 3 draft pick makes for a solid rebuild.
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Post#1417 » by DaVoiceMaster » Tue Sep 12, 2023 2:03 am

How many players do the Blazer have under contract now? Aren't they over 15?
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Post#1418 » by Norm2953 » Tue Sep 12, 2023 4:21 am

It'll be interesting to see what happens if Dame is still a Blazer when training camp opens.

There are reports he would only report to Miami/Portland's training camps and its unclear if Dame
would refuse to report to team XX if he gets traded after camp opens.

I'd wonder if Portland would give in or just send Dame home if he's a distraction and tell him to
pound sand. Being a distraction and being the guy he is in 2023 isn't the guy he's been since 2012.
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Post#1419 » by GEE » Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:48 am

Though it is off topic, I am quite pleased with the current signings of Brown, Knox and now Reath. That's a really good 3rd string IMO. Not done yet, but good bottom moves all the same. Butler and Badji will hopefully get moved soon, but the Dame saga continues.

I doubt much longer though. My gut tells me that nobody wants to see this trade drama to drag into training camp... most of all Dame. It would be uncomfortable for all, but mostly for Dame (I would imagine). Just don't think Dame wants to face EVERYONE, after the stunt he has pulled (unsuccessfully I'd add).

Now, it's about two weeks before (estimating) training camp begins, and still crickets from both sides. Still think Dame needs to blink first, and come off his Miami or Porland only stance, because I firmly believe those are the very two, he has zero chance of being on next season. Offer up a preferred list, or risk getting sent somewhere you really don't want to go. Choice is his, but I have to think Dame is gone within two weeks. Where, and for who... still no real clue, only good guesses.
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Post#1420 » by VaDe255 » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:25 am

GEE wrote:Though it is off topic, I am quite pleased with the current signings of Brown, Knox and now Reath. That's a really good 3rd string IMO. Not done yet, but good bottom moves all the same. Butler and Badji will hopefully get moved soon, but the Dame saga continues.

I doubt much longer though. My gut tells me that nobody wants to see this trade drama to drag into training camp... most of all Dame. It would be uncomfortable for all, but mostly for Dame (I would imagine). Just don't think Dame wants to face EVERYONE, after the stunt he has pulled (unsuccessfully I'd add).

Now, it's about two weeks before (estimating) training camp begins, and still crickets from both sides. Still think Dame needs to blink first, and come off his Miami or Porland only stance, because I firmly believe those are the very two, he has zero chance of being on next season. Offer up a preferred list, or risk getting sent somewhere you really don't want to go. Choice is his, but I have to think Dame is gone within two weeks. Where, and for who... still no real clue, only good guesses.


i) Dame is not a guy who changes his mind like the wind. He is pretty much set on playing in Miami, just as he was set on playing in Portland for years. He clearly stated that he wants to compete for a championship (and did it again in the Spears interview) and needs more help, not more young developing players.
Cronin responded by drafting his younger replacement. So nope, he wants to win and he wants an organization that is stable and focused on winning, unless smth. very drastic happens in the same line of what Cronin did, he isn't changing his mind about it.

ii) There simply are no reported offers for Dame, partially because of his age/contract, but more so because there is no team where he fits (except Miami).
Even if he changed his mind and said he would be open to playing on another contender:

EAST
Boston - Has no more cap space
Milwaukee - No assets
Philadelphia - No assets (and they stated they don't want to trade Maxey, who is a bad fit like Herro anyway)

WEST

Lakers - No assets
Clippers - No assets
Pelicans - They could, but have to figure out what to do with Zion and how to unload McCollum at the same time

Rest is either rebuilding and don't want to sell the farm for a 33y old guard, who simply does not fit the timeline.

It's difficult to see anyone who needs the position filled, wants to win now and has the assets to do it. There is really only 1 fit and it is Miami.
So it really doesn't matter if Dame would say, yeah im open to go to Milwaukee, Philly, Clippers, Lakers, none of them could even trade for him. Pelicans are maybe the most likely team out there that could do that trade, which would somewhat make sense for them, but also they probably just want to continue and try with Zion, Ingram, McCollum.

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