Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated

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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#261 » by Godymas » Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:00 pm

I have never seen a player that so casually averages HoF numbers be so completely thrown under the bus and disrespected

2021 playoffs literally proved YOU CAN WIN WITH TRAE YOUNG. The roster was flawed, the coach wasn't good, but it proved that Trae Young's game 100% translates to the playoffs, and if anything he actually performs better in the playoffs.

He doesn't rely on athleticism, therefore he will be good to play for a good 10 years or more.

He's on pace to finish his career with 10k assists and 30k points if he plays another 10 years. Also he's not even in his prime. Trae Young could retire top 10 in assists and points. Only 1 other player in the history of the game has accomplished this and his name is LeBron James
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Post#262 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:19 pm

Trae Young will win multiple NBA championships. Dude hasn't even entered his prime yet and is on a historical pace from a points + assists perspective. He's done this all without a true 2nd star. He's a big stage performer and his play translates to the playoffs.

People choke on Dame's meat (primarily because of one great playoff game-winner) but Trae has far surpassed what Dame accomplished by the same age.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#263 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:49 pm

SlovenianDragon wrote:Trae Young doesnt really do anything well but bait fouls and shoot FTs...

Poor FG% Poor 3pt% bad defender and led the league in turnovers...

Can he get better? Sure.

But as of now hes pretty lame.


I agree 100% with this, he offers no resistance defensively and is one of the most annoying players in the league. I actually think he is overrated. He can get on a hot streak for sure, but if his shot isnt falling he can shoot Atlanta out of the game.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#264 » by Johnny Tomala » Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:58 pm

Yup he is underrated. I will take him over Haliburton, Morant, Brunson without blinking an eye.
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Post#265 » by TwitterFingers » Sat Sep 16, 2023 5:20 pm

He was voted most overrated by the players
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Post#266 » by ChuckChilly » Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:35 pm

Even being a Hawks fan, Im not a big Trae guy, but its pretty easy to see now that he is the most disliked player in the league next to Draymond Green and Dillion Brooks.
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Post#267 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:36 pm

he's rated correctly. not a super star because his defense is awful and his effiency sucks (goes down even worse in the post season).
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Post#268 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:46 pm

Johnny Tomala wrote:Yup he is underrated. I will take him over Haliburton, Morant, Brunson without blinking an eye.

2023 Playoffs

Jalen Brunson: 27.8 PPG 5.6 APG 47/32/91 Splits. 2.1 turnovers per game
Trae Young: 29 PPG 10.2 APG 40/33/86 splits. 4 turnovers per game

Brunson is the much more efficient player and doesn't turn the ball over as much. Trae is inefficient, a turnover machine but is a great playmaker.

I think I'll take Brunson.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#269 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 6:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Johnny Tomala wrote:Yup he is underrated. I will take him over Haliburton, Morant, Brunson without blinking an eye.

2023 Playoffs

Jalen Brunson: 27.8 PPG 5.6 APG 47/32/91 Splits. 2.1 turnovers per game
Trae Young: 29 PPG 10.2 APG 40/33/86 splits. 4 turnovers per game

Brunson is the much more efficient player and doesn't turn the ball over as much. Trae is inefficient, a turnover machine but is a great playmaker.

I think I'll take Brunson.

Pretty clear Trae is a superior playmaker which is why he turns the ball over more. Now do their career numbers. Trae almost doubles him. Also outside of Trae’s bad 25 game start he’s been a 60 ts% for the last 3 years.
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Post#270 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:07 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
Johnny Tomala wrote:Yup he is underrated. I will take him over Haliburton, Morant, Brunson without blinking an eye.

2023 Playoffs

Jalen Brunson: 27.8 PPG 5.6 APG 47/32/91 Splits. 2.1 turnovers per game
Trae Young: 29 PPG 10.2 APG 40/33/86 splits. 4 turnovers per game

Brunson is the much more efficient player and doesn't turn the ball over as much. Trae is inefficient, a turnover machine but is a great playmaker.

I think I'll take Brunson.

Pretty clear Trae is a superior playmaker which is why he turns the ball over more. Now do their career numbers. Trae almost doubles him. Also outside of Trae’s bad 25 game start he’s been a 60 ts% for the last 3 years.

2022 Playoffs
Jalen Brunson: 21.6 PPG 3.6 APG 46/34/80 Splits 1.1 Turnovers a game
Trae Young: 15.4 PPG 6 APG 32/18/78 Splits 6 turnovers a game.


So 2 years in a row Trae Young has been a choke artist in the playoffs. I know which player I'm taking.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#271 » by balla4lyf23 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:08 pm

hes not underrated lol.. at all
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Post#272 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:18 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:2023 Playoffs

Jalen Brunson: 27.8 PPG 5.6 APG 47/32/91 Splits. 2.1 turnovers per game
Trae Young: 29 PPG 10.2 APG 40/33/86 splits. 4 turnovers per game

Brunson is the much more efficient player and doesn't turn the ball over as much. Trae is inefficient, a turnover machine but is a great playmaker.

I think I'll take Brunson.

Pretty clear Trae is a superior playmaker which is why he turns the ball over more. Now do their career numbers. Trae almost doubles him. Also outside of Trae’s bad 25 game start he’s been a 60 ts% for the last 3 years.

2022 Playoffs
Jalen Brunson: 21.6 PPG 3.6 APG 46/34/80 Splits 1.1 Turnovers a game
Trae Young: 15.4 PPG 6 APG 32/18/78 Splits 6 turnovers a game.


So 2 years in a row Trae Young has been a choke artist in the playoffs. I know which player I'm taking.

29/10 vs 57 win Celtics is choking yeah ok but again anyone can have one good year and be on his level.
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Post#273 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:24 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:Pretty clear Trae is a superior playmaker which is why he turns the ball over more. Now do their career numbers. Trae almost doubles him. Also outside of Trae’s bad 25 game start he’s been a 60 ts% for the last 3 years.

2022 Playoffs
Jalen Brunson: 21.6 PPG 3.6 APG 46/34/80 Splits 1.1 Turnovers a game
Trae Young: 15.4 PPG 6 APG 32/18/78 Splits 6 turnovers a game.


So 2 years in a row Trae Young has been a choke artist in the playoffs. I know which player I'm taking.

29/10 vs 57 win Celtics is choking yeah ok but again anyone can have one good year and be on his level.

He shot 40% from the field with 4 turnovers a game. Choked.

Meanwhile Brunson just averaged
31 PPG 6.3 APG on 50/34/89 splits against the Heat, that went to the finals.

Trae has been MIA the past 2 years in the playoffs. While Brunson has clearly been the better player. Trae has some catching up to do.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#274 » by Archx » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:33 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Johnny Tomala wrote:Yup he is underrated. I will take him over Haliburton, Morant, Brunson without blinking an eye.

2023 Playoffs

Jalen Brunson: 27.8 PPG 5.6 APG 47/32/91 Splits. 2.1 turnovers per game
Trae Young: 29 PPG 10.2 APG 40/33/86 splits. 4 turnovers per game

Brunson is the much more efficient player and doesn't turn the ball over as much. Trae is inefficient, a turnover machine but is a great playmaker.

I think I'll take Brunson.

Pretty clear Trae is a superior playmaker which is why he turns the ball over more. Now do their career numbers. Trae almost doubles him. Also outside of Trae’s bad 25 game start he’s been a 60 ts% for the last 3 years.


Well Trae has been in the playoffs 3 times and his advance numbers and shooting %'s take a huge hit compared to regular season. His career TS is 53% compared to RS TS 58%. And that's mostly because of his high FT %. His playoff On/Off are also huge negative, which probably has a lot to do with his defense.

Brunson on the other hand is a complete opposite of Trae. We can realistically look at only 1 of his runs as a true leader but his last playoff run was really, really good. +17.7 On/Off on 59% TS and 28/5/5. Sure Trae is a superior playmaker but if you sum everything together Brunson actually produced more points for his team on offense and defense compared to Trae.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#275 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 7:36 pm

When people say such and such is underrated, what exactly do they need to hear so that said player can be correctly rated?
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#276 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:24 pm

Godymas wrote:I have never seen a player that so casually averages HoF numbers be so completely thrown under the bus and disrespected

2021 playoffs literally proved YOU CAN WIN WITH TRAE YOUNG. The roster was flawed, the coach wasn't good, but it proved that Trae Young's game 100% translates to the playoffs, and if anything he actually performs better in the playoffs.

He doesn't rely on athleticism, therefore he will be good to play for a good 10 years or more.

He's on pace to finish his career with 10k assists and 30k points if he plays another 10 years. Also he's not even in his prime. Trae Young could retire top 10 in assists and points. Only 1 other player in the history of the game has accomplished this and his name is LeBron James


Over their first 5 years in the league Trae Young is averaging more point POINTS + ASSISTS/games (close to 35), than Lebron James (close to 34) did in his career (he came out of HS though, Trae after one year). Also Trae Young is more heavily weighted towards assists which are very arguably more valuable than points. Young Young is playing less MPG than Young Lebron.

Lebron's beating Trae out in durability so far, though in terms of games played per season.

Lebron's career averages are 27.2/7.5. Probably no one better? Trae Young's current career averages 25.5/9.3.

Lebrons peak: 29.7 ppg/8.7 asts Youngs peak: 29.6/9.3
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#277 » by wco81 » Sat Sep 16, 2023 10:21 pm

Well until he breaks the pattern, Trae's going to put up great bulk offensive numbers but maybe not so impressive efficiency, especially in the post season.

If he wants to change the narrative, he's going to have to have a jump in efficiency, leading his team to at least reach the Finals.

Otherwise, he'll put up good top-line numbers like 25-30 PPG and 8.5-11 APG. The top line numbers will compare well with former MVPs and players who've led or have played key roles in leading their franchises to championships.

That will mean the Hawks will keep maxing him out, through at least his early 30s.

But he may never break through as far as post-season success that he and the Hawks both want.

Still, with the bulk points and assists, it would probably lead to a HoF career, because points and assists matter more than efficiency or number of championships to the HoF. There are plenty of players who put up HoF numbers but don't have any rings.
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Re: Trae Young is Ridiculously Underrated 

Post#278 » by tsherkin » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:35 am

Excellent RS player. Considerably worse in the PS, especially the past 2 years. Teams have sort of figured out how to attack his size and his skill set deficiencies (relatively speaking). If/when he stops withering up on the interior during the PS, we'll have something to talk about, but the past couple of seasons have not been flattering to him in the playoffs.

He is not "ridiculously underrated," he's a big-time RS guy who fails to deliver as things tighten up, at least to date in his career. He needs to overturn that narrative in order to stop earning and deserving his reputation.
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Post#279 » by NBA4Lyfe » Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:41 am

Trae Young is underrated because he chooses to play like James Harden instead of Steph Curry. Steve Kerr hates heliocentric basketball players. Too bad the USA team was playing with FIBA refs and not his pals which are NBA refs.. The games in FIBA were called straight down the middle, so no letting uncalled physical contact go at the start of the 3rd quarter which is what kerr is used to over in the states to let his teams get the upper hand of the game. FIBA is where coaching really matters

Team USA could have really used Trae
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Post#280 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Sep 17, 2023 1:16 am

3toheadmelo wrote:he's rated correctly. not a super star because his defense is awful and his effiency sucks (goes down even worse in the post season).


I think he lead a top 3 in offense both of the last 2 seasons unless I'm wrong. Correct me if I am wrong.

I feel like someitmes guards who lead top offences are underrated offensively vs individual players who don't raise their team's offense as much as you would hope.
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